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7/10/2015 3:01:12 PM

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i'm surprised you'd support the comments of a gay hipster liberal

7/10/2015 3:16:21 PM

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^ that's circular reasoning, a little bit.

Yeah, it's legally wrong to pull the flag of that truck, but what's legal, and what's right, aren't always the same.

Part of the expectation of the government taking a firm stand against the flag, is that this tends to lead societal viewpoints down the same path.

Just think about the civil rights era... the government can stop doing all the racists things it does, but this doesn't necessarily mean individuals will stop being racists. But when the broader trends of society are anti-racist, this causes people to subtly start believing in this goal, kids are raised with this ethical standard, etc., until old kinds of overt racism are seeing as disgusting and heinous.

So yeah, it is your right to be racist and wave a rebel flag, but as time goes on, it will become more socially unacceptable to do this, until it's really just the fringe extremists still doing it.

7/10/2015 3:29:13 PM

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Another human tendency is that people want to do what they're told they can't do. I saw some pickup truck today flying the confederate flag today (like a flag on a pole, not a bumper sticker), and my hunch was that the driver probably put it up just because of all the controversy and people saying how bad the flag is.

7/10/2015 3:33:41 PM

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Why isn't pulling the flag down considered free speech. It's the flag puller telling the flag flier to shut the fuck up.

As I said on the last page, all these problems could have been solved in the 1800s if we had beheaded all the confederates. But we didn't, so those people were able to breed and pass down their unamerican ideals.

7/10/2015 3:36:44 PM

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Because it's vandalism and it's a crime under the law. It's self-defeating and a silly thing to do.

7/10/2015 3:38:55 PM

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Quote :
"A student holds a Confederate flag in front of Little Rock Central High School, which had been scheduled to integrate, in September 1957."


[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 3:39 PM. Reason : Heritage eh]

7/10/2015 3:38:55 PM

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Quote :
"Why isn't pulling the flag down considered free speech. It's the flag puller telling the flag flier to shut the fuck up."


Sure but just like in your videos of the people getting knocked out,
it is also the truck drivers rights to come out and kick the guys ass for screwing with his truck. You can't have it both ways man.

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"As I said on the last page, all these problems could have been solved in the 1800s if we had beheaded all the confederates. But we didn't, so those people were able to breed and pass down their unamerican ideals.

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Ahhh so we should have beheaded every confederate soldier down to the lowely drummer boy. You are the idiot racist. Since there are no racists in the North!

Wait my last business trip to Minneapolis, one of the electricians on the job-site told me he loved living in Deluth Minnesota (way up North in MN) because it "is too cold for the N****s

[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 3:45 PM. Reason : a]

7/10/2015 3:43:27 PM

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"Let me point out some findings:

67% of African Americans in Ferguson account for 93% of arrests made from 2012-2014.

The disproportionate number of arrests, tickets and use of force stemmed from “unlawful bias,” rather than black people committing more crime.

Officers used a dog to attack an unarmed 14-year-old black boy and then struck him while he was lying on the ground, all while he was waiting for his friends in an abandoned house. The report concludes that in every dog bite incident reported, the person bitten was black.

From October 2012 to October 2014, every time a person was arrested because he or she was “resisting arrest,” that person was black.

And here's a great example about a black man resting in his car after playing basketball:

"Without any cause, the officer accused the man of being a pedophile, referring to the presence of children in the park, and ordered the man out of his car for a pat-down, although the officer had no reason to believe the man was armed.""


That is actually way worse than I thought.

7/10/2015 3:44:41 PM

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Heritage as spoken by the designer

7/10/2015 3:46:35 PM

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^^Wait!?!?!?!? Missouri is the mid-west, you just blew away BlackJesus's whole hypothesis that if we executed all confederates we would live in a blissful land equality and tolerance.

Unless ex-confederates all migrated to St. Louis in mass (doubtful) during reconstruction.

[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 3:47 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 3:47 PM. Reason : a]

7/10/2015 3:47:21 PM

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"You can't have it both ways man."


Says the stereotype-loving guy who complains about someone else's stereotype

7/10/2015 3:48:33 PM

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^http://www.salon.com/2015/07/09/the_true_people_of_south_carolina_deface_nikki_haleys_facebook_wall_with_racist_rants_after_decision_on_confederate_battle_flag_finalized/

[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 4:03 PM. Reason : ,]

7/10/2015 3:57:43 PM

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Quote :
"Why isn't pulling the flag down considered free speech. It's the flag puller telling the flag flier to shut the fuck up."


Are you serious? The flag puller telling the flag flier to "shut the fuck up" would be to literally tell him to "shut the fuck up", with his speech, not to vandalize his truck. Do you not understand this, or are you just trolling for attention?

7/10/2015 4:05:36 PM

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Quote :
"Another human tendency is that people want to do what they're told they can't do. I saw some pickup truck today flying the confederate flag today (like a flag on a pole, not a bumper sticker), and my hunch was that the driver probably put it up just because of all the controversy and people saying how bad the flag is.
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No one's telling him he can't do this, he's kinda foolish for reacting this way. But foolishness is one of the qualities someone has to have to be radicalized.

7/10/2015 4:06:14 PM

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blackjesus is a self-admitted troll. him and HUR are two flavors of the same brand of stupid.

7/10/2015 4:07:01 PM

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^^Can't, shouldn't, whatever you want to call it. The flag has been extra-stigmatized recently, which is probably what led this person to put one on his truck, as an act of defiance.

7/10/2015 4:09:04 PM

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Which led the black super hero to pull it down in another act of defiance. If people are saying don't do xyz because it is offensive to us, maybe you shouldn't do it. If you choose to do it, don't expect sympathy if someone acts out.

Whites could go around calling blacks niggers, but you don't do you.

Its your right as an American to fly what ever flag you want, but if you are going to openly celebrate the enslavement, rape, murder etc of an entire race. Do not cry when you get "vandalized".

7/10/2015 4:14:53 PM

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And if you steal someone's property from their vehicle, don't expect sympathy when the cops arrest you for it

7/10/2015 4:18:58 PM

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I'm embarrassed for this country. We trot our military around the world freeing people, meanwhile we have a good portion of this country that celebrates enslavement like its the greatest thing ever.

Fucking disgusting

7/10/2015 4:25:28 PM

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lol, Do stupid shit, get dealt with. This ain't the 1950's, we got goons out there with no MLK to tell us to be peaceful.

7/10/2015 4:30:55 PM

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Disgusting? Yes.

Are you going to change their minds? No. Especially when people go around ripping down their symbol, thus to their minds only reinforcing their opinions.

Unfortunately all we can really do is set an example for future generations.

7/10/2015 4:35:48 PM

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Can I make a request that people stop posting pictures of black people holding confederate flags on facebook? You're not making the point you think you're making.

7/10/2015 5:21:11 PM

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and this is what i meant when i agreed that people like BJ are part of the problem. he wants to deny people's right to free speech over things that he finds offensive, he encourages vandalizing and violence over things he finds offensive, yet berates "liberals" for being offended by other things. hypocrite.

and just to be clear, i completely support the removal of the flag from state's grounds, and think it's mostly redneck idiots that fly it, but I do support their right to idiotically fly it.

[Edited on July 10, 2015 at 5:27 PM. Reason : ]

7/10/2015 5:26:15 PM

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^^ You should post pictures of smiling slaves.




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7/10/2015 5:30:44 PM

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I'm hoping this doesn't die down. Maybe SC will pull a fast one and raise another permutation of the CSA flag over that monument. Another solid 4 weeks of shit news and glorious facebook battles.

7/10/2015 6:19:51 PM

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Free speech right.

https://www.facebook.com/NLibertus/photos/a.574657975974151.1073741828.565357546904194/691624357610845/?type=1&theater

7/10/2015 8:02:50 PM

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yes, yes it is

7/10/2015 8:03:47 PM

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Yup.

7/10/2015 8:07:27 PM

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Toilet paper would be much, much cheaper in the long run.

7/10/2015 8:13:28 PM

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Not if you have a river and some soap.

7/10/2015 8:24:51 PM

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for all i know that chick is wiping her ass with some indiana hoosiers warmups

7/10/2015 11:11:44 PM

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Where's Waldo's turtleneck

7/10/2015 11:28:07 PM

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Is BJ trolling everybody at this point? I don't understand why he would've been sarcastic to my post. Unless he secretly walks around with a confederate flag.

7/11/2015 12:05:52 AM

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He's left the reservation. It's not trolling, per se.

7/11/2015 1:39:00 AM

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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/01/15/even-robert-e-lee-wanted-the-confederate-flag-gone.html

7/11/2015 1:50:15 AM

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Quote :
"About half the students and alumni polled by a campus magazine opposed the decision to remove the flags this summer."


Who knew half of the students and alumni of one of the most prestigious liberal arts universities in the nation were blatant racists?

[Edited on July 11, 2015 at 2:11 AM. Reason : all I learned from that piece is Lee was a huge flip flopper]

7/11/2015 2:07:47 AM

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I'm sick of politicians doing the right thing only when it works for them. Haley is a flip flopping idiot thats getting credit for doing something she did not support doing. Even after the shooting she came out in support of the flag...

7/11/2015 8:16:38 AM

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^ she's just a consummate politician. To an extent, politicians have to change views based on what the people want.

7/11/2015 3:13:32 PM

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I don't see why flip flopping is always a bad thing. Sometimes after doing research, talking to people, or from experience your viewpoints change. I used to have no issue with fracking but after learning more about the process and the data regarding health issues over time from people living nearby I'm now against the process.

Maybe the governor decided appeasing the African American community and not having riots about the flag was more important then keeping some rednecks happy.

7/11/2015 3:33:57 PM

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Confused as to why you think there would be riots about the confederate flag. Those dangerous minorities appear to have kept their shit together for the past 60 years without rioting.... only with gentle reminders about how fucked up the situation was.

Moreso, Dylann Roof wasnt an agent of the state, and was promptly arrested...like the justice system is supposed to work.

7/11/2015 4:04:37 PM

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I saw it more as clashing of protesters demanding removal of the flag clashing with pro flag people escalating rather than the protesters spontaneously breaking into a riot.

7/11/2015 5:00:29 PM

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https://www.facebook.com/jamari.d.williams/videos/879908282062337/

No comment

7/12/2015 12:05:51 PM

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I get that BJ is trolling, but it just occurred to me: Is HUR trolling, too?

It would explain so much.

7/12/2015 12:48:59 PM

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BJ thinks he's trolling, but he's just not very good at it.

HUR on the other hand is a unapologetic racist shitbag.

[Edited on July 12, 2015 at 1:20 PM. Reason : His posting history clearly shows this isn't trolling]

7/12/2015 1:14:53 PM

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synapse you know you sound like the biggest quivering pussy I've ever heard.
I bet you spent a lot of time crying in high school when when the bullies said mean things to you. Why don't you just go jump of a bridge pal.

7/12/2015 9:45:07 PM

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I love how you never deny it.

You OWN that shit.

Props dude.

7/12/2015 9:49:56 PM

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Some redneck tried to get a "Heritage Not Hate" confederate flag cake made at Walmart and they refused. But then he was able to get a cake with the Isis flag on it. gg Walmart...

7/12/2015 10:09:12 PM

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old!

7/12/2015 10:24:16 PM

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oh, i didn't see it until today. guess some of us aren't obsessed with this flag.

7/12/2015 10:44:11 PM

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