I like the fold, stacking off 500 BB's with KK on a scary board is pretty terrible.

4/3/2007 9:17:51 PM

I am not usually into tells, but there is NO WAY I lay that hand down after watching Booth play the hand. One of Cairo's biggest and best tells is how if you act strong, you are generally weak. Booth made it an absolute point to "act" strong, annoyingly so. (I guess you can play devil's advocate here and say that Booth knows Ivey would know this tell, so he was playing the reverse psychology game). If you have AA with someone raising in front of you like that, you just don't play it that way. Likewise with a set, I just don't see playing that way either.

I know Phil would most likely destroy me in a heads-up game, but I still think he made a horrible play.

4/3/2007 9:37:26 PM

I could take him.

Justin did a good job explaining the logic behind the fold on the previous page.

4/3/2007 10:07:13 PM

I understand the logic.

If I were playing online and the same betting sequence happened, I probably fold.

But since I got to see him and watch what he did, it's pretty much an instacall for me.

4/4/2007 1:25:41 AM

[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 5:52 AM. Reason : eh]

4/4/2007 5:48:22 AM

^^depending on my table image I will occasionally affect the opposite tells of what you are describing.

for example, if i've been playing tight for whatever reason and there is a really aggressive guy who thinks he's the next matusow i will check raise him on a stone bluff, but before I raise I'll try to look really sad, bet really weakly then make sure after about 5 seconds I lean back in my chair.

on the other hand if i have a big hand and i've been bullying the table, i'll put a raise in quickly and directly (not slamming it down bc that's too flamboyant), but making sure i appear strong. then i'll lean forward in my seat and try not to breathe.

of course this only works if people don't really have you pegged as a tricky player, but my point is that you can't always rely on those tells when the players are actual players.

4/4/2007 8:06:37 AM

someone watched the fulltilt show on player tells

4/4/2007 9:03:40 AM

i dont know

to me

trying to send out reverse tells is weak

let your game talk

4/4/2007 9:04:29 AM

yea man, i mean like i said....the situation has to be just right, not something i make a habit. in general i agree it's weak, but if you are in someone's head enough to know that they aren't giving you enough credit as a player, you can play it off on them, but i mean this is something i do maybe once every ten sessions.

4/4/2007 9:06:59 AM

Sbrugby is a total donk!


Noid has a total man crush on him.

"Oh no brian don't call he has a monster " -noid while watching HSP

4/4/2007 4:20:54 PM

hahaha


bri bri would have 6th leveled yukon and called 700k with KK

smooches

4/4/2007 4:28:08 PM

ahahahahahha


oh and what was up with the preview for next week

kinda made it out like esfandiari and townsend got into a sack war raise /rr/rr/rr/rr/r/r/rjeaiouaskljfvaiosud089fncv 0894

type deliciousness

[Edited on April 4, 2007 at 4:30 PM. Reason : e]

4/4/2007 4:30:33 PM

bri bri will pwn.. just you wait

4/4/2007 4:35:37 PM

well

his rr on the turn with an oesd against negraneu's top set made my azn side's pants get tighter

ive got a ton more respect for him now after his showing on the show, even though i think he's down thus far

even if he does resemble an arthritic grandmother with handling his chips

4/4/2007 4:39:12 PM

they should put an egg in our thread

4/4/2007 9:37:14 PM

They did!

4/4/2007 10:04:55 PM

oh lawd


Hand #41226496-28 at TurboSnG-0020b (No Limit Hold'em Sit and Go)
Started at 04/Apr/07 23:34:16

privells17 is at seat 0 with 1370.
beandip28 is at seat 1 with 1630.
The button is at seat 1.

beandip28 posts the small blind of 15.
privells17 posts the big blind of 30.

privells17: Tc 4d
beandip28: -- --

Pre-flop:

beandip28 calls. privells17 checks.

Flop (board: 7c 2s 5c):

privells17 checks. beandip28 checks.

Turn (board: 7c 2s 5c Jc):

privells17 bets 60. beandip28 calls.

River (board: 7c 2s 5c Jc 7s):

privells17 bets 130. beandip28 calls.



Showdown:

privells17 shows Tc 4d.
privells17 has Tc 7c 5c Jc 7s: a pair of sevens.
beandip28 shows Ts 6s.
beandip28 has Ts 6s 7c Jc 7s: a pair of sevens, jack/ten kickers.


Hand #41226496-28 Summary:

No rake is taken for this hand.
beandip28 wins 440 with a pair of sevens.
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The mighty 10 high call down. 6 plays, nh sir.

4/5/2007 12:25:30 AM

what a read!

4/5/2007 7:39:49 AM

maybe he thought he had clubs???

4/5/2007 8:01:18 AM

heading to turning stone this weekend....i think they have some pretty good wsop satellite action.

4/5/2007 8:04:19 AM

Quote :

"The mighty 10 high call down. 6 plays, nh sir."

Damn, that's some 6th level shit right there.

4/5/2007 8:53:46 AM

from 2 + 2

Quote :

" mattg1983 is very strong tight aggressive player. This is midway through the tourney. seat 1: sheets (9425 in chips) seat 2: jadedjason (6425 in chips) seat 3: mattg1983 (11945 in chips) seat 4: jambo669 (7045 in chips) seat 5: mrrain (8660 in chips) seat 6: thanksB (7785 in chips) seat 7: Annette_15 (12722 in chips) seat 8: mortens22 (4410 in chips) seat 9: jcamby33 (15998 in chips) mattg1983: posts small blind 75 jambo669: posts big blind 150 *** HOLE CARDS *** dealt to sheets [ks As] mrrain: folds thanksB: folds annette_15: folds mortens22: folds jcamby33: folds sheets: raises 300 to 450 jadedjason: folds mattg1983: raises 925 to 1375 jambo669: folds sheets: a.shove b.call c.fold d.kill self Unlike most of my posts, killing self doesnt seem to be a viable option this time. sheets "

4/5/2007 9:09:30 AM

lemme hlep

a.shove
b.call
c.fold
d.kill self

4/5/2007 9:29:52 AM

wow so you opt for folding over calling there? I actually think I have to take a flop in this spot, i mean he could very obviously be raising with a pp, but i think the fact that the raise came from the co means in my head i'm almost expecting to get reraised from the blinds anyway.

i think i might actually raise him back a little, with the idea of calling a shove by him, it seems to have a bit more deception than an all in shove. but i kind of think my stack's deep enough just to smooth call and see what the texture of the flop is like, but idk i'm just getting back into tourneys.

pilgrim care to elaborate? i'm trying to work on my tourney game, i find that i can accumulate chips pretty easilty, but when it gets down to the point where people pretty much have 5 figure stacks i have trouble knowing when to push and when to pass. Seems like raising with a-k from co, then folding to sb rr (possible re-steal) is a little too weak though, no?

4/5/2007 9:40:03 AM

Quote :

"pilgrim care to elaborate?"

I'm guessing he doesn't like you calling more than 10% of your stack hoping one of the first three cards with be an A or K.

4/5/2007 10:00:26 AM

Quote :

"wow so you opt for folding over calling there? I actually think I have to take a flop in this spot, i mean he could very obviously be raising with a pp, but i think the fact that the raise came from the co means in my head i'm almost expecting to get reraised from the blinds anyway. i think i might actually raise him back a little, with the idea of calling a shove by him, it seems to have a bit more deception than an all in shove. but i kind of think my stack's deep enough just to smooth call and see what the texture of the flop is like, but idk i'm just getting back into tourneys. pilgrim care to elaborate? i'm trying to work on my tourney game, i find that i can accumulate chips pretty easilty, but when it gets down to the point where people pretty much have 5 figure stacks i have trouble knowing when to push and when to pass. Seems like raising with a-k from co, then folding to sb rr (possible re-steal) is a little too weak though, no?"

ok heres my take.

david has a good point.

What do you learn by calling?

not a damn thing.... what more info do you know about his hand if he c-bets the flop?

still nothing

he's gonna c-bet with AQ even on a whiff.. given sheets' opinion on the player.

also, given sheets' read, its very possible that he could be on a resteal from a late position raise.

punish that.

sheets knows, that matt knows that sheets is an active and feared player, capable of making a late raise with a very large range.. this opens up the range matt could be RR with..

prlly up to 66+, KTs++ AT++

now

AK vs that range is goot.

and with the chips dead in the pot, folding equity, etc etc

im leaning to a push

but if you think that matt is only doing this with something larger than that range... its a fold.

calling off is the worst, even with an M of 20.

matt has taken controll of the hand, and you basically give up by calling.

folding is your other option, due to the fact that you do have an M of 20, and theres no need to tangle in a tough situation yet.

play it out son

your option of RR matts, is worse than calling.. take that play away and push if you are going to RR.

4/5/2007 10:21:18 AM

bout to play online


playing cards for the first time since the incident

4/5/2007 8:42:02 PM

I just applied for a dealer job on craigslist. Seems very sketch but i need money

4/5/2007 8:48:03 PM

Where at? I need a new game since "the incident"

4/5/2007 10:04:38 PM

This guy had been pissing me off all session:

PokerStars Game #9284491649: Hold'em No Limit ($0.25/$0.50) - 2007/04/06 - 16:09:45 (ET)
Table 'Arkab II' 6-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: pbktje ($72.10 in chips)
Seat 2: syn87 ($64.15 in chips)
Seat 3: hardhairy1 ($62.35 in chips)
Seat 4: Bonchosun ($64.45 in chips)
Seat 5: The Hish 24 ($54.20 in chips)
Seat 6: Kopp19 ($18.60 in chips)
Bonchosun: posts small blind $0.25
The Hish 24: posts big blind $0.50
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to The Hish 24 [6s 4s]
Kopp19: calls $0.50
pbktje: raises $0.50 to $1
syn87: folds
hardhairy1: folds
Bonchosun: raises $2 to $3
The Hish 24: calls $2.50
Kopp19: folds
pbktje: calls $2
*** FLOP *** [4c 9s Js]
Bonchosun: bets $5
The Hish 24: calls $5
pbktje: folds
*** TURN *** [4c 9s Js] [Ks]
Bonchosun: checks
The Hish 24: bets $13
Bonchosun: raises $43.45 to $56.45 and is all-in
The Hish 24: calls $33.20 and is all-in
*** RIVER *** [4c 9s Js Ks] [Ah]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
Bonchosun: shows [9c 9d] (three of a kind, Nines)
The Hish 24: shows [6s 4s] (a flush, King high)
The Hish 24 collected $108.90 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $111.90 | Rake $3
Board [4c 9s Js Ks Ah]
Seat 1: pbktje folded on the Flop
Seat 2: syn87 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: hardhairy1 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: Bonchosun (small blind) showed [9c 9d] and lost with three of a kind, Nines
Seat 5: The Hish 24 (big blind) showed [6s 4s] and won ($108.90) with a flush, King high
Seat 6: Kopp19 folded before Flop

4/6/2007 4:12:26 PM

Quote :

"Bonchosun: raises $43.45 to $56.45 and is all-in"

Not only did the flush draw hit, but the straight draw hit too, what a donk

4/6/2007 4:26:26 PM

I'm so glad I'm playing poker online again

GoCowboys45 1 $243.50/$243.50 $0.00 $0.00
NCWolfpack44 2 8 8 $94.50/$158.75 $66.25 $64.25
limp in larry 3 $118.50/$118.50 $0.00 $0.00
UWOkid87 4 $0.00/$0.00 $0.00 $0.00
ace2vek 5 $168.50/$168.50 $0.00 $0.00
gordon806 7 $100.50/$100.50 $0.00 $0.00
imaxipad 8 5 J $66.25/$0.00 $66.25 $-66.25
KnuSkool 9 $105.75/$104.75 $1.00 $-1.00

Hand Actions
Player Action Action Data Timestamp
gordon806 Set dealer/Bring in spot
imaxipad Ante/Small blind $ 0.50
KnuSkool Big blind/Bring in $ 1.00
GoCowboys45 Card dealt to a spot
NCWolfpack44 Card dealt to a spot 8 8
limp in larry Card dealt to a spot
ace2vek Card dealt to a spot
gordon806 Card dealt to a spot
imaxipad Card dealt to a spot 5 J
KnuSkool Card dealt to a spot
GoCowboys45 Fold $ 0.00
NCWolfpack44 Call $ 1.00
limp in larry Fold $ 0.00
ace2vek Fold $ 0.00
gordon806 Fold $ 0.00
imaxipad Call $ 0.50
KnuSkool Check

Betting round completed Last active pot = $3.00
Card dealt to table 8 J 6 (the 8 and 6 were clubs)
imaxipad Bet $ 5.00
KnuSkool Fold $ 0.00
NCWolfpack44 Raise $ 10.00
imaxipad All-in $ 60.25
NCWolfpack44 Call $ 55.25
Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 8 = $133.50
Card dealt to table Q
Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 8 = $133.50
Card dealt to table 10
Rake amount $ 3.00
Betting round completed Last active pot = $0.00
Side pot 8 = $130.50

imaxipad Showdown Show card: Pair
J J Q 10 8
NCWolfpack44 Showdown Show card: Three of a Kind
8 8 8 Q J
NCWolfpack44 Hand result $ 130.50

[Edited on April 7, 2007 at 9:24 AM. Reason : Bodog hand history thing sucks]

4/7/2007 9:21:39 AM

^ Please translate that hand into english

4/7/2007 9:43:34 AM

^sorry dude, didn't think the hand history would come out that shitty

basically...i had 88, other guy has J5

flop comes 8-6-J where 8 and 6 are clubs

he raises $5, i reraise to $10, then he raises all-in for which I promptly call

I was dominating at that point and ended up winning.

This hand was really no big deal but it was the first big hand I've had in awhile (been away from poker for a month)

[Edited on April 7, 2007 at 9:55 AM. Reason : asdf]

4/7/2007 9:55:30 AM

^ nh, but I HATE your min reraise to $10

4/7/2007 10:32:28 AM

I usually hate min raises too but I doubt he would have went all in without a weak raise like that. I should have bet a lot more (maybe raise to $15) seeing as there was a flush and straight draw on the board. I didn't think he had the flush draw at all and put him on a pair of J's.

4/7/2007 10:36:39 AM

jesus that hand history is hard to read

4/7/2007 11:03:32 AM

yeah i guess you have to donk bet into donkeys

4/7/2007 11:26:13 AM

^yeah, he was donkin' it up the whole time I was at the table

^^that's what i'm saying. Even on the hand history screen it's hard to read.

4/7/2007 11:46:47 AM

Quote :

"Card dealt to table 8 J 6 (the 8 and 6 were clubs)"

I assume that second part was added? Did the hand history neglect to mention any suits?

4/7/2007 11:49:50 AM

^yeah i added the second part cuz the history neglected the suit

Bodog's hand history sucks

4/7/2007 11:54:55 AM

Before I scrolled down to see the entire history I seriously thought you had typed it all out by hand.

4/7/2007 11:56:46 AM

I was curious how many hands you all put in in the last month? 6 months? yr? I was looking through my PT stats tryin to decide if i need to be trying to put in more hours to get in more hands.

I put in 18k hands in March, 85k this yr so far, and almost 200k in the past 6 mos.

4/7/2007 2:15:04 PM

Wow, that's more than I play as a pro.


I kinda took off Feb(~6k hands) and didn't play much in Jan either(~13k), so despite a decent Mar(~22k) I really don't have a ton of hands logged for '07(40,351 according to PT).

I'd say I average between 15-20k hands/mo when I'm not feeling burnt out or lazy(those months are few and far betwen).

Also I'd say 30-35% of my time is spent playing heads up, where I'm only playing 1 table instead of my normal 4 6-max tables. That does not help my bottom line for hands played, but it has been very lucrative.


What stakes are you playing 85k hands at moe? How many tables? What's your BB/100? Do you get rakeback or is it all on stars? That is a lot of hands for a part time player(which I assume you are).

4/7/2007 4:11:15 PM

I've never played full time, but used to avg ~140 hand/hr when I was bonus whoring.

4/7/2007 4:16:18 PM

^^ i usually 8 table for 1-2hrs 4-5 days per week at 25nl and 50nl 6max. @ 25nl im at 4.13 BB/100 and 1.17 @50nl (only 30k hands here). I make more money in MTTs but never have more than a couple of hours to put in. And yes, just started playing at FT to get rakeback.

[Edited on April 7, 2007 at 5:59 PM. Reason : rb]

4/7/2007 5:46:42 PM

i need to start playing online...


ive ONLY got live experience...been playing for almost 4 years.

4/8/2007 2:55:10 AM

Can I get a quick rundown of the "good" sites that can still be played in the US and the easiest way to transfer money quickly (ie now)?

Ultimate Bet still looks good.

4/8/2007 3:12:18 AM

I play at UB almost exclusively. Stars, Full Tilt, and Bodog round out the 4 major sites still availible to the US.

I have no idea how to deposit.

4/8/2007 3:23:07 AM

^Bodog is very easy to deposit in but you can only deposit money in increments of $100,$200, or $300.

You have to use a service called NuCharge which they say is a "prepaid phone card." The great thing about it is that it's instantaneous and you can have money in your account in <5 minutes.

4/8/2007 9:23:48 AM