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justinh524
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I enjoy a couple games a year, but it's nowhere near as fun as when I was a student.

1/18/2020 7:33:45 PM

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"^not judging the call but you're allowed to jump if you stay vertical"


But you can't jump AND take a charge, right? That's either a defensive foul or a no call?

1/18/2020 8:42:51 PM

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I think In theory it would be a charge, but it's pretty hard to not jack knife when you get hit in the air, so it's hard to call.

1/18/2020 8:53:22 PM

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If you go straight up in a cylinder around your body, that space is yours and no one defense or offense can take that away, its a foul. Right to space. So yes, if you jump up, and the offensive player is out of control, you can draw a charge while in the air. Player control foul.


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Officiating was suspect second half. Need to make more FTs, if Clemson had made theirs they would have won.

Having Bryce and MJ back is great, but the lack of depth at guard really shows when we have to brind Braxton in. I don't buy that his back is still hurting him given the amount of practice time/shots he put up this week, Its a poor excuse.

Good for DJ getting his first double double. Gonna need him to play like that every game from here on out and hope Manny is back quickly, same for Andree3k, hopefully his shot heals along with his leg. He left in a boot and crutches.

KKIAW, GTHC

[Edited on January 18, 2020 at 10:11 PM. Reason : r]

1/18/2020 10:07:28 PM

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Glad we got the win!! We were looking good at the end of the 1st half and I thought we might run away with it but then the 2nd half happened and both teams looked pretty bad.

1/18/2020 11:16:12 PM

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I'm assuming historically low prices was a troll post.

Any update on Bates/Andree? We need a quad 1 W and tomorrow is one of the few chances left.

1/19/2020 10:59:59 PM

justinh524
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I would be surprised if either plays.

Not really a loss if Andree doesn't play tho

1/19/2020 11:07:56 PM

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Bates is fine, they could have brought him back in against Clemson but held him out as a precaution.

Andre is out for a bit.

1/20/2020 12:08:10 AM

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Bates didn't travel to VA

Mentioned earlier Keatts hasn't beaten an ACC tech, he also hasnt beaten an ACC VA team (that's prob obvious after the tech part but still)

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 12:39 PM. Reason : ^lol]

1/20/2020 12:39:15 PM

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Sucks that we can’t stay at full strength. UVa is beatable. But being down 1 or 2 guys isn’t helpful.

1/20/2020 12:58:08 PM

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I think we might play better without Bates. The idea of playing him is defense, but our defense still sucks because it's a fundamentally flawed scheme, so you may as well just play your best offensive player instead.

1/20/2020 1:18:46 PM

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Tower owns all the Danny Dixon stock.

1/20/2020 1:24:48 PM

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I love when people assume that if we don't have their preferred players, we'll just play the good players the whole game! When in reality it just means sub minutes have to go to even worse and/or more fatigued players.

See wyatt walker -> Danny Dixon
Or Andree -> Danny Dixon
Or Bates -> Danny Dixon

Basically anyone getting replaced by Dixon is not great at this point.

1/20/2020 1:28:20 PM

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^^^except when foul trouble and fatigue become a factor.

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 1:28 PM. Reason : Arrows. ]

1/20/2020 1:28:32 PM

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dixon has been better than I expected tbh but yeah the lack of depth is a problem

we were playing bates too much tho

1/20/2020 1:36:33 PM

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tower has what is known in the medical community as Jevoni's Syndrome

1/20/2020 1:39:27 PM

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we don't *have to* give the minutes to someone else. If Keatts is going to keep his job, he will eventually start to realize sometimes you have to make game-specific adjustments and do things you don't normally do in order to have the best chance to win.

If you don't play so aggressive defensively, you don't give up as many fouls and you don't get as fatigued either. I'm not saying this is the game to do that, I"m just saying it should always be an option. I'd love to see us sit back and play tight zone sometimes.

Even if Bates is healthy, Funderburk needs to play as many minutes as possible.

1/20/2020 1:40:08 PM

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"Andree -> Danny Dixon"


Despite the fact that they play different positions, Andree is a noticably worse defender than Dixon. And he's currently bringing less than nothing to the offense (he airballed 2 open threes against Clemson, had another blocked and missed another fucking layup.) Dixon is a solid low post defender, and while he has very limited offensive value, he doesn't force shots and waste possessions. If he can grab some rebounds, keep the opposing center from getting easy looks and eat up a few/5 fouls that would otherwise go on Funderburk, that's a plus.

It is definitely crazy to say we'll play better without Bates. It is not crazy to say we will be just as good without Andree.

Is Jevoni's Syndrome like when people look back and think TBVD was remotely good at basketball?

1/20/2020 2:05:02 PM

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nah Funderburke will definitely foul out if we try to play him 35mpg consistently. hopefully we can get away with it for a few games though

1/20/2020 2:13:13 PM

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This comment can immediately be turned around, but not sure Dixon has played enough to judge hid D. I do now he was fine against ND, but got 3 fouls in 4 minutes vs Miami and picked up a rare 6 trillion vs Clemson.

Also the "same position" thing is silly, he's been getting more minutes vs ND and Mia at the expense of Andree. When you have limited depth, positions don't matter as much a just getting someone on the floor to give people a breather. Funderburk can play with either of them. (aside from the back that they're basically the same size)


Lol vs high majors, when Andree makes 3 or more 3's, we are 0-4. We are much better when he misses!!

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 2:24 PM. Reason : E]

Also 0-4 when he plays over 20 min congrats Justin!!

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 2:25 PM. Reason : E]

1/20/2020 2:19:04 PM

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hes a complete sieve on defense

1/20/2020 2:28:55 PM

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Here's the thing, Dixon is always playing the 5, Andree is never playing the 5. I think Dixon getting more minutes has a lot of factors, the biggest being Keatts seeing that Bates + Funderburk works well and neither is getting in terrible foul trouble, so they can continue to play together. That means Dixon is going to play more to spell Bates, simply because Funderburk isn't going to play 40 minutes. Dixon has played well enough in short relief stints. He's never going to carry the team, and no one is going to ask him to. Any points he provides are a bonus.

Hellems and Funderburk are the guys actually taking the minutes at the 4, and they're the guys who need to be playing there. They actually play defense. Both of them can guard almost anyone on the floor. Andree can't guard anyone on the floor. That's why he's been relegated to the bench for the majority of the 2nd half in many games and it has nothing to do with Dixon. Now that his shot isn't even close to falling, there's no reason for him to see major minutes.

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"Also 0-4 when he plays over 20 min congrats Justin!!"


I hate it when I'm right. Coach Keatts should pay me to advise him.

1/20/2020 2:43:50 PM

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"Bates didn't travel to VA
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You're the only person that Ive seen say this. Link?

1/20/2020 3:59:35 PM

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I'm his mother, I think I would know!!!

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 4:45 PM. Reason : (this is satire don't sue me) ]

1/20/2020 4:44:46 PM

justinh524
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I'm perfectly fine with missing Andree for this game. Having him trying to cover Diakite or Key is just a recipe for sadness. There's no way that ends remotely well.

1/20/2020 5:02:25 PM

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I thought we might receive some votes in the polls today, but nah

1/20/2020 6:03:35 PM

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Has Keatts beat Bennett yet?

1/20/2020 6:39:32 PM

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No

1/20/2020 7:08:44 PM

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Glad to see UVa getting called for fouls. Seems like it’s usually really hard to get foul call vs UVa.

1/20/2020 7:25:10 PM

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Dixon looks ok so far. I don't even know if I've seen him play before.

1/20/2020 7:27:42 PM

tower
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We should be up by more

1/20/2020 7:46:27 PM

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there was a dream....

1/20/2020 7:46:43 PM

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When we shoot a 3 I have no expectation of it going in right now.

1/20/2020 7:47:20 PM

justinh524
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" I don't even know if I've seen him play before."


you probably did, you just didn't notice him because he didn't do anything obscenely stupid.

1/20/2020 7:50:31 PM

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Guys like Daniels and Hellems really get exposed in these games

1/20/2020 8:07:00 PM

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Daniels and Hellems being asked to do more when we have injuries exposes them. They’re role players. They force things too often, and I think they especially force things when we’ve had injuries.

1/20/2020 8:10:54 PM

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Yeah they thrive when they're the 3rd/4th option. No one could hit a shot in the first half besides Funderburk so they were pressing.

1/20/2020 8:13:25 PM

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I don’t understand how UVa can hedge so hard on screens and make so much contact and never get called for fouls

1/20/2020 8:15:41 PM

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Now that we've actually hit a few 3s, we're up by about as much as I felt we shouldve been by the play in the first half

1/20/2020 8:16:06 PM

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UVa has gotten away with like 5 fouls on hedging screens. Jesus

1/20/2020 8:29:13 PM

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Letting the contact go all game and then call DJ on the hand there

1/20/2020 8:32:37 PM

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Officiating is always an inconsistent nightmare when playing UVa it seems like.

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 8:34 PM. Reason : Not even saying it’s been bad, just inconsistent on contact what is and isn’t allowed ]

1/20/2020 8:34:09 PM

justinh524
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Lmao he didn't even move

1/20/2020 8:34:15 PM

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Yeah until the last 5-10 minutes I thought it was a loose but evenly officiated game

1/20/2020 8:36:04 PM

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Lol at the dude hand shoving Funderburk. It wasn’t that hard...but lol at how blatant it was. Looked like he realized it was dumb midway through and maybe held up a little.

[Edited on January 20, 2020 at 8:38 PM. Reason : A]

1/20/2020 8:38:14 PM

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That has to be a tech

1/20/2020 8:38:36 PM

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Double technical bullshit

1/20/2020 8:39:09 PM

Lionheart
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what, bulllllllshit

1/20/2020 8:39:13 PM

dmspack
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Double tech???? Man fuck that. Their dude hits our player. Our player...didn’t do anything obvious. Jesus.

1/20/2020 8:39:18 PM

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Very glad the refs ruined this game. What a fucking Joke.

1/20/2020 8:40:01 PM

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