the fact that fox news makes such an impact speaks volumes

8/12/2009 7:53:48 PM

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"the fact that fox news makes such an impact speaks volumes about the intellectual capability of the average american"

fixed it.

8/12/2009 8:03:45 PM

If the Republicans can just keep the country in as bad a shape as Bush left it, then they've got a shot in the next presidential election.

Status quo for the WIN!

8/12/2009 8:17:47 PM

sigh

8/12/2009 8:23:03 PM

More Glenn Beck insanity:



No wonder sponsers are pulling out.

[Edited on August 13, 2009 at 2:49 AM. Reason : .]

8/13/2009 2:49:35 AM

^
Fox News dominates July ratings. . . .

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"'Glenn Beck' up 120 percent. . . ."

http://tinyurl.com/n3dzx4

Pfft. They'll be back--or they'll be replaced. Advertisers simply will not ignore numbers like those.

8/13/2009 3:02:11 AM

Most people are probably just watching it for the shock value. His show might as well be radioactive to advertisers right now.

8/13/2009 3:33:43 AM

^ Ever heard of Howard Stern?

8/13/2009 3:40:09 AM

Howard Stern never really got into politics. His shock value was mostly pornographic in nature. Glenn Beck is a far-right sensationalist who's tapping into white America's fear of a black president for ratings and it's coming back to bite him in the ass now.

8/13/2009 4:50:05 AM

America's going to hell, and shitbags like Beck and Orly and Coulter are lining up their shock troops.

liberals need to embrace the 2nd Amendment and arm themselves.

8/13/2009 10:20:28 AM

Nah, we the liberal elite, have nothing to worry about. Remember, Jon Stewart is still the most trusted newsman in America!

8/13/2009 10:36:55 AM

^^^ I'm not defending Beck's comments. I've been clear here that I don't really care for him.

And politics isn't the issue. YOU mentioned "shock value." Well, no broadcaster used to shock people more than Howard Stern--and when some advertisers began to dump him, others took their place because he was popular. If you can't see the analogy, then I can't help you.

8/13/2009 3:59:53 PM

I see the analogy. But surely you're not asserting that Beck and Stern have the same style of shock value. One can be replaced by a different brand of advertiser, the other is poison on any level.

8/13/2009 4:43:35 PM

seriously, if you can't see the difference between the shock that stern uses and what beck uses...oh wait, i forgot who i'm addressing

nm

8/13/2009 4:56:26 PM

I never said it was the "same style of shock value"--but it is shock value nonetheless. Whether or not all advertisers will bail remains to be seen.

8/13/2009 4:57:35 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/13/fox_news_asks_wh_why_are_people_receiving_health_care_emails_when_they_never_signed_up.html

8/13/2009 5:01:36 PM

Um. . .ah. . .uh. . .er. . .duh. Does that answer your question?

--Robert Gibbs

8/13/2009 5:09:45 PM

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/13/olbermann_oreilly_should_be_fired.html

i wonder why oreilly got a free pass on that story...even howie kurtz was like wtf

8/13/2009 5:13:23 PM

I light of this controversy, I DVR-ed today's Glenn Beck show. The following are the advertisers from just today's program:

Accu-Check Aviva (Roche)
Binder & Binder
Cinergy Health
CPI Security
DirectTV
EasyWater
Health Mart
Johnson Law Group
Lanacane
Lear Capital
Liberty Medical
March of Dimes
Merit Financial
Psoriasin
Pulaski & Middleman
Restasis (Allergan)
Rosland Capital
Savewithregions.com
The Wall Street Journal
UPS
U.S. Postal Service
Zerowater.com

I eliminated the advertisers that were obviously local (Carolina Flooring, Crossroads Christian School, and Pulte Homes). It is difficult to determine what others on the list of advertisers may be local. It is clear, however, that many were national ads targeted at a national audience.

It doesn't appear that Glenn Beck is hurting for advertisers to me.

[Edited on August 13, 2009 at 6:44 PM. Reason : Okay, cue: But, but those advertisers suck! ]

8/13/2009 6:42:15 PM

List of organizations/companies to boycott:

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"Accu-Check Aviva (Roche) Binder & Binder Cinergy Health CPI Security DirectTV EasyWater Health Mart Johnson Law Group Lanacane Lear Capital Liberty Medical March of Dimes Merit Financial Psoriasin Pulaski & Middleman Restasis (Allergan) Rosland Capital Savewithregions.com The Wall Street Journal UPS U.S. Postal Service Zerowater.com Viagra "

Thanks hooksaw!

[Edited on August 13, 2009 at 6:52 PM. Reason : ]

8/13/2009 6:48:37 PM

^ I anticipated that. And it is certainly your right to do so if you want.

[Edited on August 13, 2009 at 6:50 PM. Reason : Wait, I forgot Viagra--add them to the list. ]

8/13/2009 6:49:52 PM

Incidentally, I don't use any of those services, except for perhaps the WSJ, where I occasionally find myself linked to.

8/13/2009 6:56:00 PM

i gotta boycott the USPS *and* UPS?

well, shit.

that's gonna be tough.

8/13/2009 6:57:09 PM

Why did hooksaw this turn into a discussion about ratings and advertisers?

I posted the video as more evidence of the insanity of Glenn Beck. I heard something about advertisers pulling support, and I thought it made sense given the kind of crap displayed in the video. I don't give a shit whether or not he still has advertisers or what his ratings are. Good for him. He is still insane and a destructive figure.

8/13/2009 7:50:15 PM

for every olberman and maddow, there needs to be a beck and hannity

simple enough

8/13/2009 7:59:37 PM

Because, as a conservative (not a Republican--call him [i]that[i], and it'll be the last mistake you ever make) the only thing that matters is the almighty dollar.

8/13/2009 8:01:40 PM

...riiight

8/13/2009 8:07:05 PM

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"I light of this controversy"

English holmes?

8/13/2009 8:10:42 PM

^x5

Quote :

"No wonder sponsers are pulling out."

carzak

I was simply addressing this point made by you.



[Edited on August 13, 2009 at 8:14 PM. Reason : ^ I obviously meant In. ]

8/13/2009 8:12:42 PM

no worries, when they result to grammer nazi, they obviously had no where else to turn

8/13/2009 8:15:41 PM

^^I was just observing that it makes sense that advertisers are pulling support given what he is saying. It is true that he has recently lost advertisers.

I said nothing about his ratings. I said nothing about him lacking advertisers overall. You are disputing an argument that was never made.

8/13/2009 9:18:19 PM

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"http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2009/08/13/fox_news_asks_wh_why_are_people_receiving_health_care_emails_when_they_never_signed_up.html"

Nice investigative reporting from the Fox reporter. He presumes that the White House is illegally sending out emails before he verifies what he is told by his sources.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_health_care

The White House is sending out emails to supporters in which they are encouraged to forward them to others to start a chain email. The people who are complaining about getting unrequested emails are probably getting these from other people.

8/14/2009 2:00:28 AM

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"Nah, we the liberal elite, have nothing to worry about. Remember, Jon Stewart is still the most trusted newsman in America!"

Jon Stewart is one reason why the left/dems have not been taken seriously in a while. The folks that have high paying jobs, pay a larger percentage in taxes because of their earnings and are in a position to create more jobs are the ones too busy to stay up late and watch this clown.

Besides, hes soooooo 2002

8/14/2009 8:59:04 AM

YOU PEOPLE

8/14/2009 9:14:14 AM

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"Jon Stewart is one reason why the left/dems have not been taken seriously in a while."

I'd say he's the reason why the right/repubs have not been taken seriously in a while. He gives off the persona of a normal person joking about stuff in a straight-forward manner. He is likeable and believeable and doesn't come off as a hack forcing points that don't make any sense (ala Beck, Hannity, Olberman, Maddow . . . they are all hacks).

8/14/2009 10:19:50 AM

I like Jon Stewart, but I'm just too busy to stay up late and watch this clown.




[Edited on August 14, 2009 at 10:50 AM. Reason : ]

8/14/2009 10:50:31 AM

That reminds me, this was a pretty interesting piece about Jon Stewart's style.

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"Why Neoconservative Pundits Love Jon Stewart"

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2009/08/why_conservative_pundits_love.html

8/14/2009 11:44:49 AM

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/advertisers-deserting-fox-news-glenn-beck-2009-08-14
Advertisers deserting Fox News' Glenn Beck
Cable host calls Obama 'racist' and sponsors move to distance themselves

Quote :

"In what is shaping up to be one of the more effective boycott campaigns in years, advertisers are abandoning the "Glenn Beck" show on Fox News following the host's incendiary comments that President Barack Obama is a "racist" and has a "deep-seated hatred for white people." Among the advertisers to pull spots from the popular cable talk show are Geico, owned by Warren Buffett's Berkshire Hathaway (BRK .A 101,400, -750.00, -0.73%) (BRK .B 3,329, -26.00, -0.78%) ; Procter & Gamble (PG 52.20, -0.17, -0.33%) ; Sargento Cheese; and Progressive Insurance (PGR 16.20, -0.23, -1.40%) , according to the companies and Color of Change, one group that is organizing a campaign against the program. ..."

8/14/2009 6:37:18 PM

8/14/2009 6:50:12 PM

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"Why Neoconservative Pundits Love Jon Stewart"

pretty much summed up why I watch the Daily Show. I can go elsewhere for the lol, but I think Stewarts interviews/discussions are usually pretty good. Its what sets it apart even from the Colbert Report.

8/14/2009 7:23:00 PM

i think it's awesome noone ever talks about the shit i post

it reminds me that you can only deal in candy land

8/15/2009 4:35:42 AM

those images pretty much speak for themselves.....

8/15/2009 9:31:14 AM

That dude never even smoked that cigarette he was holding. What a poser.

8/15/2009 9:36:24 AM

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"*** Fox News was third among all basic cable channels in total viewers. USA and TNT scored bigger audiences. CNN was 15th and MSNBC was 26th."

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2009/07/fox-news-dominates-july-contest-bill-oreilly-again-tops.html

This is what preserves my faith in humanity.

Sure, Fox wins the cable network battle. But in the grand scheme of things, it gets annihilated by Law and Order reruns.


And this:

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"HLN's "Nancy Grace" ran second -- in the 25-to-54 age group -- at 8 p.m. to "The O'Reilly Factor.""

Reminds me that I really, really don't want my side winning this race, anyways.

[Edited on August 15, 2009 at 9:40 AM. Reason : ]

8/15/2009 9:38:41 AM

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"marko: think it's awesome noone ever talks about the shit i post it reminds me that you can only deal in candy land"

the first -- and major -- problem is that you have attempted to steer discussion into investigating complex and multi-faceted social issues, smack in the middle of the 15th page of a slap fight about Fox News (!)

this is the sort of issue that deserves it's own thread.... but then you also have to provide some sort of general thesis or at least commentary on the video clip to start the discussion in an initial direction.

(as you probably know: generally speaking, bare links to pages or videos, without any sort of commentary by the poster, typically result in a lack of followup comments by others)

another problem is reflected in the nature of the video itself: 5 minutes of a dense monologue has become a curiosity these days. Current political media deals in soundbites, and the average American's attention span has been reduced to the order of a number of seconds.

this problem is evident in general discussion forums, when detailed discussions generate snarky responses like [WORDS], and [tl;dr]

but i watched it, and it's definitely interesting how much media has changed over the past couple generations. Ed Murrows' body language, tone, cigarette prop, use of cue cards, the choice of language --- not to mention the subject matter itself --- could spawn a lot of tangential discussion.



[Edited on August 15, 2009 at 2:51 PM. Reason : ]

8/15/2009 2:49:24 PM

I watched the whole thing too FWIW

8/15/2009 3:32:36 PM

Lol it's okay I was just kidding, but the post wasn't obvious enough.

8/16/2009 10:03:35 AM

oic. i thought, U MAD?

8/16/2009 2:14:20 PM

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"The folks that have high paying jobs, pay a larger percentage in taxes because of their earnings and are in a position to create more jobs are the ones too busy to stay up late and watch this clown."

Hulu FTMFW.

8/16/2009 5:17:49 PM

Lol, all these HARD WORKERS somehow find time to post during business hours.

8/16/2009 9:28:35 PM