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5/20/2011 6:40:07 PM

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"What random attacker strangles his/her victim? Seriously. Blunt force trauma to the head, knifing, shooting, that's what random attackers are known for. "

Drew Planten.

5/20/2011 6:54:28 PM

http://www.amazon.com/Make-Your-Opoly-Board-Game/dp/B00000K2IO

5/21/2011 11:35:36 AM

doesn't it make more sense for the game to be clue?

5/21/2011 11:36:40 AM

All the people are her jilted lovers? You'd need a really big Clue board.

5/21/2011 11:42:25 AM

No, in Clue you actually find the murderer.

So Clue is nothing like this at all.

5/21/2011 12:41:12 PM

^And a location, and a weapon. I don't think we have any of that here!

5/21/2011 2:39:04 PM

U guyz still arguing??????





















Anyone know what this is?

5/22/2011 1:45:37 PM

Check out the first couple of public comments (around minute 14) at Cary's latest Town Council Meeting:
http://media.townofcary.org/council052611.htm

5/27/2011 5:04:48 PM

I skipped to 14:00. Wow. That lady sounds scared to death, guess it's a fear of being in the spotlight like that and dropping the harsh truth.

5/27/2011 5:40:12 PM

Yeah, she looks super nervous, but she gets passionate at the end, and I think that's awesome.

5/27/2011 5:42:52 PM

I only watched her and the dude. Where there any others?

5/27/2011 5:43:56 PM

maybe BC will meet Morgan Freeman and prison and pull some Shawshank Redemption shenanigans

5/27/2011 5:46:08 PM

^^Just those two.

5/27/2011 5:53:30 PM

^6

I could tell that panel really gave a shit...I'm still pissed about this trial

5/27/2011 6:03:13 PM

"Thank you. Next."

5/27/2011 6:06:14 PM

A post from websleuths about a conversation with a juror:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138330

6/1/2011 8:24:40 AM

fucking infuriating


they convicted the guy based solely on planted evidence, just like we all thought

[Edited on June 1, 2011 at 8:31 AM. Reason : .]

6/1/2011 8:30:50 AM

wow dude

6/1/2011 8:42:41 AM

As a juror, I don't know how I could live with my decision after going back and seeing everything that I wasn't allowed to see thanks to Gessner

6/1/2011 8:43:15 AM

Sounds like that "tech guy" knows how to program his DVR and that's about it.

6/1/2011 9:20:07 AM

When would things related to the appeal begin to surface?

6/1/2011 9:20:59 AM

OMG what bullshit!!

6/1/2011 9:29:04 AM

We probably won't see an appeal for a couple years.

And if your only reason for voting guilty was the Google search, that's pretty fucked up. I couldn't put a man in jail for life for a fucking Google search.

6/1/2011 9:35:20 AM

Possibly a PLANTED google search too!!!

6/1/2011 9:36:46 AM

Quote :

"As a juror, I don't know how I could live with my decision after going back and seeing everything that I wasn't allowed to see thanks to Gessner"

Not that hard to put it all on Gessner and the prosecution. If they are going to pervert the truth but present it as such then it's all on them.

Quote :

" So the tech guy pretty much told everyone else that the time stamp testimony from the defense was not applicable? Can you elaborate a little more on that point? That's the feeling I got. I didn't ask much around that...we spent more time talking about what didn't get in, and what she read/watched after with regards to that. I did ask if anyone was technical. She said yes, one of the guys. I asked if it was the foreman and she said no. But she also talked about the FBI testimony where he said he didn't believe there was tampering even though he didn't have an explanation for the files having invalid timestamps. She was really bothered by that, but it didn't seem that the invalid timestamps were a big discussion point during deliberations. But she also talked about the FBI testimony where he said he didn't believe there was tampering even though he didn't have an explanation for the files having invalid timestamps. She was really bothered by that, but it didn't seem that the invalid timestamps were a big discussion point during deliberations. "

Really bothered by that but not enough to create even a hint of reasonable doubt.


[Edited on June 1, 2011 at 9:41 AM. Reason : -]

6/1/2011 9:36:48 AM

Should have an answer to an appeal in ~18 months, I've heard.

6/1/2011 9:38:01 AM

for real.


and for the record i google search my jogging paths on the regular.

6/1/2011 9:39:59 AM

Plus the dude was getting divorced and staying in town, I'd be looking for a new place or where new developments were going in too.

6/1/2011 9:59:56 AM

if there is one thing i have to say about the posts above, its that those doubts are, in fact, reasonable.

6/1/2011 10:03:40 AM

I google search your jogging paths too

6/1/2011 10:28:41 AM

wow

6/1/2011 10:33:20 AM

Quote :

"- The note about people staring at the jury was actually specifically about KL. Apparently she was staring at a juror that wasn't taking notes and wouldn't stop. Made the juror feel VERY uncomfortable. - 4 notes were sent about talking in the courtroom. All 4 were sent because of KL/HP talking/laughing. She said it was so bad at times that they couldn't hear the testimony."

who are KL and HP?

6/1/2011 10:38:53 AM

I think KL is Krista Lister, don't know HP (Harry Potter maybe?) lol

6/1/2011 10:40:26 AM

Hannah Pritchard and Krista(nancys sisters)

6/1/2011 10:40:42 AM

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"Plus the dude was getting divorced and staying in town, I'd be looking for a new place or where new developments were going in too."

Quote :

"and for the record i google search my jogging paths on the regular."

Towards both points, if the images are of an max zoom on the very spot where the body was dumped (and that's my impression), I don't think house shopping/jogging paths can explain that. Seems like it's either 1)brad did it or 2)tampering.

6/1/2011 10:46:00 AM

i was under the impression that the the google map search was of his whole zip code, and the area where her body was found just happened to be part of one of the map "tiles" or whatever

edit:

Quote :

"Evidence Brad Cooper is not guilty: ... Google map on computer was there because it was within BC's zip code, not because he zoomed in on that area. The dump site tiles were at a very high altitude, not "curb level". Further, the map was dated. It just had dirt roads. Further, evidence showed those images were not accessed for more than 41 seconds."

from several previous pages

[Edited on June 1, 2011 at 10:49 AM. Reason : .]

6/1/2011 10:47:49 AM

Did they ever really establish that it was a full zoom? I thought it was just of the general subdivision

6/1/2011 10:48:03 AM

It wasn't a full zoom.

It was like looking at the entire town of Cary man.

6/1/2011 10:48:50 AM

Quote :

"It was like looking at the entire town of Cary man."

Haha well I think we can all agree that the 'evidence' in question isn't THAT large

I remember hearing it was a zoomed in shot of the cul-de-sac on fielding drive, on the side of the cul-de-sac where her body was dumped. I'm not saying I think the evidence was valid or anything, just what it was: zoomed in shots of fielding drive (only). could have been brad, could have been planted intentionally, could have been cary pd being stupid and using his computer after it was in custody....I wasn't there, didn't watch that testimony, and haven't done any testing on my own so I can't comment on that [crucial] point. Only commenting on what images i heard were on his pc

[Edited on June 1, 2011 at 11:13 AM. Reason : ]

6/1/2011 11:02:09 AM

I also remember hearing that he entered a zipcode that the dumpsite wasn't even in...

6/1/2011 11:08:06 AM

I heard he zoomed in on the very piece of straw later found in the Cooper household.

6/1/2011 11:08:34 AM

Quote :

"I also remember hearing that he entered a zipcode that the dumpsite wasn't even in..."

he might have ran 100000 google map searches. we're only talking about the evidence presented in court about fielding drive.

6/1/2011 11:10:00 AM

In court, the prosecution said that when cooper entered zip code xxxxx, fielding drive was dead center. Which was total fucking bullshit, because we entered the zipcode, and fielding drive wasn't even in that zip.

6/1/2011 11:18:40 AM

Quote :

"Towards both points, if the images are of an max zoom on the very spot where the body was dumped (and that's my impression), I don't think house shopping/jogging paths can explain that. Seems like it's either 1)brad did it or 2)tampering."

actually i have gotten pretty close in so i can find landmarks.

(eg a brick house with a tree in the lawn, a blue house with a pool, etc etc)

6/1/2011 11:26:09 AM

Is my memory off, or did the time stamp from the google search match a time when Brad wasn't even in the office? I think I remember hearing that he was out to lunch during the time the search supposedly occurred.

6/1/2011 11:26:49 AM

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"In court, the prosecution said that when cooper entered zip code xxxxx, fielding drive was dead center. Which was total fucking bullshit, because we entered the zipcode, and fielding drive wasn't even in that zip."

Who knows how google maps would respond years ago...didn't the zip codes change or something anyway?? Who cares anyway, thats not the important bit.


The important bit is what does the evidence make it seem like he did after putting in a zip code. Did he just stare at the search results for 41 seconds or did he start panning and zooming? I was told it was the latter, and there were zoomed images of the cul-de-sac of fielding drive.

Quote :

"actually i have gotten pretty close in so i can find landmarks. (eg a brick house with a tree in the lawn, a blue house with a pool, etc etc)"

Pretty sure the supposed search happened when he was at work on his work computer, so I don't think Nancy was mapping out her jogging routes. Also I don't think she would need landmarks on an undeveloped cul-de-sac

6/1/2011 11:27:59 AM

you were told wrong. it was bogus evidence.

and zip codes rarely change.



[Edited on June 1, 2011 at 11:40 AM. Reason : .]

6/1/2011 11:39:39 AM

^^ doidnt realize the latter two

6/1/2011 11:45:12 AM

webslueths timestamp explanation:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=6505258&postcount=55

says last access time is always equal to create time in vista. i didn't think that was what they were talking about though.

6/1/2011 11:49:01 AM