^ makes sense though the people who killed their own brothers to defend keeping slaves, in the bloodiest war in American history, would still have a propensity for violence to this day

Must be something in the DNA or something

11/6/2017 12:23:38 PM

^That's just a dumb statement RE: DNA.

We have a problem in this country. A serious one, and it is never going to get fixed because one side of the spectrum is so distrustful of the other side. We'll never have meaningful gun control because the right is like "Yur takin' ma guns" and the extremists on the other side really want to.

In the middle somewhere lies a solution that will help curb these kinds of attacks. But nobody's listening.

11/6/2017 12:40:15 PM

the best solution would be if gun owners led the push for increased gun control

11/6/2017 12:46:57 PM

^^ sarcasm

I still to this day see people on social media suggesting blacks are innately violent killers

11/6/2017 12:57:28 PM

^^I hear you say that in Sean Hannity's voice, but instead of what you just said up there, I hear "Why aren't moderate Muslims coming out against radical Islamists."

11/6/2017 1:14:27 PM

um... how is that even remotely similar

gun owners support a few basic steps for gun control, like universal background checks. They also understand guns and understand the process of buying them better than others. Because of this, they will be able to do a better job crafting legislation that they can support.

every time democrats start, some moron inevitably adds some nonsense and it is dead before it even starts, so instead gun owners should offer up what they would be comfortable with.

this is a fantasy though, the NRA would primary anyone who did this

[Edited on November 6, 2017 at 1:34 PM. Reason : .]

11/6/2017 1:33:43 PM

The NRA needs to go away. They don't really help gun owners, they just serve themselves and gun manufacturers. But I don't think anyone here would champion any lobby, especially gun lobbies. They support the right to bear arms only because it keeps them in business.

I don't want to see guns go away, because there are enough bad people with guns out there that most people would feel better protected if they had them. For me, personally, I have a four year old so I keep mine so locked up that if anyone broke in, we would have to jump out of our bedroom window and make ourselves scarce. But what works for me doesn't work for everyone.

And I think most responsible gun owners would do exactly what you said. But then you have the slippery slope folks - like Nighthawk - who are afraid of any change. How do you reach out to them? Who knows.

11/6/2017 1:42:10 PM

BUT BUT BUT, WHAT PART OF "SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED" DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND?!?!?!?!?!!?

More and more gun owners are getting more and more extreme. They're falling in line with absolute rights and constitutional carry; not reasonable limitations and processes.

I know this because I'm around them.



[Edited on November 6, 2017 at 2:07 PM. Reason : MUST HAVE ID TO VOTE! ID TO CARRY IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!]

11/6/2017 2:00:46 PM

so...if the gov't mandated the golden gun rule, would "responsible gun owners" (read:gun-nut) adhere to it because they're "responsible"? or would they immediately become that which they criticize?

[Edited on November 6, 2017 at 2:27 PM. Reason : ]

11/6/2017 2:26:52 PM

what is a golden gun rule?

11/6/2017 5:26:50 PM

one shot will kill the person no matter what as long as they are hit somewhere.

Golden Eye, bruh

11/6/2017 7:07:25 PM

Quote :

" and the extremists on the other side really want to."

this is just fucking fake news. i'm about as extreme as it gets and i don't want to take guns, i just want to regulate the fuck out of them.

11/6/2017 7:38:15 PM

then you're nowhere close to the anti-gun crowd. plenty of people want the government to round up all the guns and destroy them, like Australia or Britain.

11/7/2017 7:19:10 AM

yeh, but that plenty makes up a very small proportion of the populace. And those within elected offices are in the single digits; besides everyone knows such measures won't pass. You just like to use it as a means to say no to all gun control legislation. 99 bills are reasonable, 1 is not and you hypocrites are screaming LOOK, THUR TAKEN MUH GUNZ.

[Edited on November 7, 2017 at 7:23 AM. Reason : and I'm a gun owner, so don't give me that LIBUHRAWL bullshit. ]

11/7/2017 7:22:28 AM

Quote :

"what is a golden gun rule?"

yeah, it's a 007 Bond reference. basically 1 bullet maximum capacity for ur guns. you'd have to reload between shots.

11/7/2017 8:49:59 AM

even European countries with insane gun laws don't restrict guns to single shot. That's an incredibly stupid statement to build a strawman argument around.

11/7/2017 9:22:55 AM

way to miss his point

11/7/2017 9:33:13 AM

Tax bullets to a ridiculous level. You then wouldn't have to worry about touching the 2nd amendment.

11/7/2017 9:47:08 AM

disallow all gun sales. gov't issued pea-shooters. 2A allows a right to bear arms, but it doesn't specify which arms

[Edited on November 7, 2017 at 10:41 AM. Reason : *not serious*]

11/7/2017 10:40:51 AM

assault weapons for none, .22 single shot long guns for all!

11/7/2017 10:53:25 AM

11/7/2017 11:13:52 AM

can we start profiling you people yet?

11/7/2017 4:03:05 PM

If this isn't terrorism, I don't know what is.

Quote :

"US Marine gets 10 years for abusing Muslim recruits AFP | Published — Saturday 11 November 2017 WASHINGTON: A US Marine Corps drill instructor was sentenced Friday to 10 years in prison for abusing more than a dozen Muslim recruits, one of whom died in 2016, US media reported. Gunnery Sergeant Joseph Felix was convicted a day earlier of maltreatment of the recruits during their basic training at the Parris Island, South Carolina base. An jury of eight fellow servicemen and women considered Felix, an Iraq war veteran, the most to blame of six instructors who ordered and participated in extreme hazing of the recruits, taunting them as terrorists. Two of them were forced into industrial-sized clothes dryers and in one case the machine was turned on when they did not renounce their faith. One of the recruits, Raheel Siddiqui died after a plunge over a third-story railing in March 2016 after enduring days of hazing worse than the normal high-pressure treatment given recruits. The Marines called his death a suicide. In October, Siddiqui’s family sued the Marines for $100 million, saying he was driven by an unnamed superior through a door and onto a balcony where he fell to the ground below. The sentence decided Friday, which also includes a dishonorable discharge, was harsher than the seven years in prison that prosecutors had recommended. The case will automatically go to appeal per military regulations for judgments that involve lengthy prison sentences and dishonorable discharges."

This is already a joke of a sentence.

But I guess we can expect it to become a slap on the wrist after the appeal?

And this wasn't a "lone gunman" scenario either, but SIX of these demons were doing it. Group predatory and violent terrorism.

11/11/2017 6:37:29 PM

Hazing gone wrong = terrorism, ITT

11/11/2017 6:49:06 PM

FBI has 1,000 open investigations into violent white supremacy, domestic terror: Agency chief
http://abcnews.go.com/US/fbi-1000-open-investigations-violent-white-supremacy-domestic/story?id=50127366

11/20/2017 1:21:40 AM

White terrorists in training at a middle school

http://www.mercurynews.com/2017/11/24/san-jose-muslim-teacher-wearing-head-scarf-repeatedly-bullied-by-students

Lol at "bullied". A more appropriate descriptor is "terrorized" when you read the description of the bullying.

11/25/2017 2:32:12 AM

Man Accused of Planning Mosque Massacre Shared Right-Wing Fake News About Muslim Rape
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-florida-man-planned-to-shoot-up-local-mosque

Arrested by undercover agents before he carried out his planned massacre.

Trump loves these people... he brought them out into the mainstream. And they, of course, adore Trump.

12/5/2017 1:59:48 AM

https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/03/21/595604376/mark-anthony-conditt-what-we-know-about-the-austin-bombing-suspect

Home schooled from a religious family, white male, almost certainly a Trump supporter

Looks like he was a republican in High school:
http://www.statesman.com/news/crime--law/authorities-bombing-suspect-was-pflugerville-resident-mark-conditt/CQUCcXNJ9nb2iFs8sSq0pK/

[Edited on March 21, 2018 at 1:11 PM. Reason : ]

3/21/2018 1:09:10 PM

white male= mentally ill

brown= terrorist, illegal alien, gang member

3/21/2018 1:11:23 PM

^Yeah that takes the fun out of it now.

Home schooling FTW! I wonder how many friends he had?

3/21/2018 1:17:42 PM

Quote :

"I officially graduated Mark from High School on Friday. 1 down, 3 to go. He has 30 hrs of college credit too, but he's thinking of taking some time to figure out what he wants to do....maybe a mission trip. Thanks to everyone for your support over the years."

His blog: http://definingmystance.blogspot.com/?m=1

[Edited on March 21, 2018 at 2:21 PM. Reason : ]

3/21/2018 2:14:48 PM

I think it's safe to say his "mission trip" bombed

3/21/2018 2:22:24 PM

Quote :

"7:43 AM PT -- It is now being reported that Conditt used an "exotic" and foreign battery in his explosives which allowed authorities to link the bombings together. Crux Manufacturing touts on its website that it specializes in handling "exotic materials." 7:00 AM PT -- Conditt graduated from Austin Community College. There might be a clue as to how he developed expertise in bomb making. He reportedly worked as a computer repair tech and also as a "purchasing agent/buyer/shipping and receiving" at Crux Manufacturing in Austin. The company is involved in robotics, mechanical repair ... it builds a variety of metal products."

HE'S JUST LIKE US!

3/21/2018 2:29:55 PM

Homeschooled... there's the problem.

3/21/2018 2:42:18 PM

I feel bad for him. Something like this could have happened to any of us. I hope he gets the help he needs.

3/21/2018 2:58:52 PM

We should ban bombs before people start marrying their toasters

3/21/2018 3:04:29 PM

his blog reads exactly like the guy here who was trying to defend old people sexing underage teenagers

3/21/2018 3:04:35 PM

Quote :

"Homeschooled... there's the problem."

3/21/2018 3:14:42 PM

Can we start profiling people that look like him yet?

3/21/2018 3:55:30 PM

^Don't we already assume that people doing serial killings, or stuff like this are white men? I saw a documentary about the DC Snipers a few months ago and the law enforcement that was interviewed said one of the things that caused them to get away for a while is everyone was assuming it was a white male without having any clues about anything.

3/21/2018 6:07:54 PM

No, "we" don't actually. Hence this very thread.

[Edited on March 21, 2018 at 10:51 PM. Reason : .]

3/21/2018 10:51:11 PM

Serial killers, sure. Terrorists, not so much. Yes, hence this thread.

3/21/2018 11:55:35 PM

I bet this guy was from Iowa.

3/22/2018 12:06:42 AM

guys...I mean like....REALLY profiling these people. Like...stop and frisk in their neighborhoods type of profiling.

3/22/2018 9:08:52 AM

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kroger-shooting-suspect-gregory-bush-apparently-sought-access-to-mostly-black-church-before-slayings/

10/26/2018 2:02:27 PM

https://www.npr.org/2018/10/27/661347236/multiple-casualties-in-shooting-near-pittsburgh-synagogue

10/27/2018 11:47:42 AM

I posted this in the gun thread but relevant here:

Quote :

"8 people dead in a synagogue in Pittsburgh. I wonder if the "thoughts and prayers" folks take a moment to consider that people were murdered in the act of praying and thinking."

10/27/2018 3:45:49 PM

They did think about it.

That's why they're going with "Death penalty!" and "There should've been an armed guard!"

10/27/2018 4:43:17 PM

Death count up to 11

10/27/2018 5:00:06 PM

this is a scenario where concealed carry could have helped

10/28/2018 7:42:55 AM