ive never once had a server problem in wow yet unless you count restarting a server problem. i was back in asa the server restarted. ive been playin a month too.

1/20/2005 1:48:40 PM

You got them good fucker

1/20/2005 2:28:18 PM

msb2ncsu is the exact type of player I would never, ever want to play with.

You are way, way too fucking serious.

Regardless of stability issues, WoW has absolutely dominated EQ2 when it comes to the thing that really matters; reviews.

EQ2 has bombed a ton of reviews for the simple fact that its just not as good of a game as WoW.

End of story.

In any case, if you like grinding against mobs for years be my guest


Oh yeah and WoW has sold over 600,000 copies so far in the US and was released in Korea yesterday.

[Edited on January 20, 2005 at 3:20 PM. Reason : ed]

1/20/2005 2:57:14 PM

World of Warcraft is better than Everquest because playing it doesn't make you an Everquest player.

1/20/2005 3:32:46 PM

msgb2whatever is clearly mistaken here. He has a disease known to many as "superior Everquest player syndrome". This results in the person playing a shitty video game, getting addicted, and feeling like they're somehow better than everybody else for it.

Did you play UO? DAOC? SWG? AO? SB?

Do you have a lot of experience to be comparing these games across? The server downtimes haven't even been an issue for me or many other players, unless they're on 24/7 (this is more of an Everquest player's problem). I'm not a Blizzard fanboi either. Starcraft was a shitty game. The warcraft games were devoid of "strategy" until Warcraft 3, and I don't even like the "strategy" sold there. I just play WoW and see that it's a superior product.

Seriously dude, have you even read about Battlegrounds, or the other ground breaking shit Blizzard's doing with this game? Oh no, you're too busy jacking off to photo-realistic elves. Oh yeah, and grinding vs. mobs all day trying to find "INCREDABLY RARE DROPZ!11" in an endless grind.

Seriously man, we play a game with a point and a purpose. You play a game that's a glitzed up version of a hamster wheel. Shut the fuck up.

1/20/2005 4:26:54 PM

Quote :

"The immaturity in the previous two posters are prime examples of the different atmospheres of WoW and EQ2. I guarantee the average age of gamers for each respective game is quite different."

Actually, msb2ncsu, I said only fags play EQ2 because, well, only fags play EQ2:

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=277786&page=1#5889920

Let me some it up for you, if you go to this link:

http://www.thedauntless.com/cecil.html

You'll see a bunch of shitty screen shots and a whole backstory.

Ignore the backstory and listen to my summary:

Nerd 1 pisses off nerd 2.

Nerd 2 has friend pose as chick elf so nerd 1 tries, and does, have cybersex with him.

Screen shots are posted.

EQ players LOL OMFG GG on the forums.



[Edited on January 20, 2005 at 4:37 PM. Reason : >.<]

1/20/2005 4:35:00 PM

To say that Blizzard was unprepared for release is, IMO, incorrect.

I think they were prepared for release--but they were grossly unprepared for such a huge-ass response to their release, and that is where the big problem lies. I think that Blizzard looked at the release turnout for DAOC, SWG, and other MMORPGs and didn't factor in the fact that a lot of the RTS players would be buying WoW.

1/20/2005 4:47:18 PM

i disagree.

i think the fact they knew the RTS people would buy it was their driving force behind the entire idea to do this. they figured they could pull a large amount of their RTS fanbase with them and then pick up large amounts of MMORPG players from the other games.

1/20/2005 6:23:15 PM

I don't think anyone at Blizzard could have anticipated that within two weeks of launch, they would be setting all-time records for concurrent logins. I think that's reasonable that they would have been unprepared for that.

That is a big reason for the server problems. If they learn from FFXI and develop a system wherein people from high-pop servers could migrate to smaller worlds as a one-time or two-time deal, I think that would alleviate a lot of the concerns.

The reason why that happened is in large part because it's a good-ass game, man. I've played a number of MMO's, and WoW's game systems blow every other's out of the water. There a few things it could learn from other games--for instance, the auction system could use some tweaking, imo, but overall it's simply a superior product.

At first, I was hesitant about some things because it made the game seem much easier, but now I realise that it isn't necessarily about making things easier, per se, but more about removing useless tedium that only serves to make other games take longer to play. ie. level grinding, incredibly long spawn times for some named mobs, making quests intentionally vague and cryptic so ppl just resort to checking the internet for answers, etc. Why not just remove those elements and concentrate on the fun bits of mmo's?

1/20/2005 7:21:41 PM

lineage 2 is terrible.

1/20/2005 7:25:17 PM

yumyummom is an asshat. and he goes to state.

1/20/2005 8:39:19 PM

My roommate and I play on Arthas Horde. Represent!!

Yumyummom is an asshat.

[Edited on January 20, 2005 at 8:55 PM. Reason : Horde]

1/20/2005 8:43:05 PM

Yeah, I played CB for around 2 months and really never had any problems with lag or excessive server downtime. And that was on a Pacific server. I really dont think Blizzard did anything wrong, except make a really fucking good game that sold a shit ton better than they ever thought it possibly could (of course they should be used to it by now, it's happened with all their games).

1/20/2005 8:54:44 PM

just snagged a copy on ebay for $40, they average about $65 though

1/20/2005 9:13:04 PM

Quote :

"Starcraft was a shitty game."

Bite your fucking tongue.

SC is 10x the game Wow is.

1/20/2005 9:52:42 PM

and it also isnt the same genre.

nice comparison...

1/20/2005 11:58:41 PM

Check this shit out:

http://wow.allakhazam.com/profile.html?30186

1/21/2005 12:35:53 AM

1/21/2005 12:41:38 AM

Quote :

"Graphics... stylistic is one thing, dated is completely different. Hell, it barely looks better than Warcraft 3. "

You ever think that it was meant to look that way? Hell, it doesn't bother me one bit, because my friends with shitty computers can still play.

1/21/2005 12:43:32 AM

Quote :

"and it also isnt the same genre. nice comparison... "

Now that you've missed the point entirely, just keep quiet.

1/21/2005 1:30:57 AM

i love starcraft...but compared to wow? no way could i compare sc to wow.

1/21/2005 1:57:10 AM

Jesus Christ.

It's like the idiocy in Tech Talk decided to migrate into Entertainment.

1/21/2005 2:12:29 AM

woah dude. idiocy in the tech talk? calm down.
its my own opinion dude. i didnt say YOURE WRONG. i said no way IIIII could compare sc to wow. and i love both. so yea.
calm down

1/21/2005 2:15:02 AM

Did anyone stop and notice

hey Zhisheng, your character is a damn BEAST

gg

1/21/2005 3:14:27 AM

^ Just got done with UBRS runs...started doing it last night at 5pm, still no Doomsaw after a whole damn week of UBRS (Upper Blackrock Spire) runs

1/21/2005 7:40:38 AM

Quote :

"have you even read about Battlegrounds, or the other ground breaking shit Blizzard's doing with this game?"

dont post in this thread again, honestly. nothing in this game is ground breaking, and you fucking know it. running back to your body as a ghost, as opposed to running back to pray on a grave doesnt count as ground breaking.

1/21/2005 8:21:23 AM

Quote :

"Armabond1: msb2ncsu is the exact type of player I would never, ever want to play with. You are way, way too fucking serious. Regardless of stability issues, WoW has absolutely dominated EQ2 when it comes to the thing that really matters; reviews. EQ2 has bombed a ton of reviews for the simple fact that its just not as good of a game as WoW. End of story. In any case, if you like grinding against mobs for years be my guest Oh yeah and WoW has sold over 600,000 copies so far in the US and was released in Korea yesterday."

I'm way too serious? I'm not the one who went apeshit over posting a blurb about PA's reaction to WoW problems. Look at the tone of the previousposts and tell me who has the mental stability issues? Dick and fart jokes are for 13 year olds, and that is the general atmosphere of WoW's community (just read the forums).

EQ2 has bombed tons of reviews? I've yet to see one that trashed it. It did quite well in the review department, actually. Not quite as good as WoW of course but still very well.

Grinding against mobs? Have you played EQ2? Its nothing like EQ1... at all. In fact, most reviews I've seen say that EQ2 has WoW beat in crafting and questing (I know I've completed something like 300 quests and have another 50 I'm in the middle of).

As I said before, 600,000+ sold copies of the game mean nothing if the people can't play it. Oh and Usher's album was the top selling of 2004... does that make it the best album?

Quote :

"World of Warcraft is better than Everquest because playing it doesn't make you an Everquest player."

The game is irrelevant, you're still a geek when you play mmo's.

Quote :

"McDanger:msgb2whatever is clearly mistaken here. He has a disease known to many as "superior Everquest player syndrome". This results in the person playing a shitty video game, getting addicted, and feeling like they're somehow better than everybody else for it."

Is 8 letters really that hard to read? Its NCSU! I don't think I'm superior at all, but I do think several of you are in desparate need of a maturity boost. Playing an MMO in general make you a dork, the title is irrelevant.

Quote :

"McDangerDid you play UO? DAOC? SWG? AO? SB?"

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. No. Also played AC2, E&B, and Ryzom.

Quote :

"McDangerDo you have a lot of experience to be comparing these games across? The server downtimes haven't even been an issue for me or many other players, unless they're on 24/7 (this is more of an Everquest player's problem). I'm not a Blizzard fanboi either. Starcraft was a shitty game. The warcraft games were devoid of "strategy" until Warcraft 3, and I don't even like the "strategy" sold there. I just play WoW and see that it's a superior product. Seriously dude, have you even read about Battlegrounds, or the other ground breaking shit Blizzard's doing with this game? Oh no, you're too busy jacking off to photo-realistic elves. Oh yeah, and grinding vs. mobs all day trying to find "INCREDABLY RARE DROPZ!11" in an endless grind. Seriously man, we play a game with a point and a purpose. You play a game that's a glitzed up version of a hamster wheel. Shut the fuck up."

My initial remarks were from those of others, like WoW fanbois Tycho and Gabe, about server stability and gameplay issues. I'm not just making blind stabs in the dark, much like you are currently. Yes, I know of Blizzards "ground breaking shit" but have you read about what EQ2 has brought to the table? I doubt it. Here ya go: http://www.bigkid.com.au/2004/11/24/eq2_vs_wow_feature_comparison/ (A list someone put together of features in both games). What about Heroic Opportunities (group based special attacks), raid parties (multiple groups tied as one for raid encounters), guild prestige (you can "level" your guild through city writs and quest to gain prestige, perks, and access to special items/content), insanely in-depth crafting system (seriously, no one can touch this at the moment), and so on. Your "hamster wheel" comments most definitely applied to EQ1, but in no way does it apply to EQ2. Oh and by the way... saying things like "shut the fuck up" doesn't make your arguement any mroe solid.

Quote :

"SandSantaActually, msb2ncsu, I said only fags play EQ2 because, well, only fags play EQ2:"

I wouldn't be one to talk...
http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.aspx?fn=wow-guild-recruitment&t=179&p=1&tmp=1#post179

WoW players LOL OMFG GG on the forums.

Quote :

"You ever think that it was meant to look that way? Hell, it doesn't bother me one bit, because my friends with shitty computers can still play."

You are missing the point. Its like they went backwards in polygon count and so forth. I think Bizzard's artistic style is beautiful when done well... I just don't think their game does it justice at all. Its blocky and chopped up to hell.. the collisions turned off doesn't help for aesthetics either.

1/21/2005 10:01:42 AM

WoW has raid groups as well. What I am looking forward to are rewards for PvP'ing. Like access to special mounts and items.

I will admit that the forums are nothing but whiny trash, but its the bnet crowd that posts on those forums.

And you can't forget WoWs instances!

1/21/2005 10:10:44 AM

You cannot talk about WOW graphics until you run WOW on a superior system. (Nebucanezzar's machine = 3.5 Gigahertz/2 gig DDR2/GeForce 6800 Ultra/200 Gigabyte Raptor 1000 FSB/21" Flat Panel/kickass optical mouse. EQ may have a slightly advanced graphics engine, but the gameplay behind everquest is terrible, the pvp system is terrible, the diminishing returns are incredible, and the point of the game is stupid. "Hack and slash to get better armor.... to hack and slash harder monsters to get better armor..... to hack and slash even harder monsters to..." and so on... Who in their right might would find that remotely interesting... not me, and not the WAAGH! Also, EQ2 blocks many gamers from playing its game, simply b/c it does not have the ingenius engine that WOW does, that allows players with shitty systems to play, and play smoothly. At the same time, systems like Nebucanezzar's make WOW look BEAUTIFUL.

You cannot talk until you actually play WOW the way it is meant to be played. So far your remarks have been nothing more than minor stabs at a superior product. Blizzard is a brand that always delivers and they care more about their products and their users then most gaming retailers on the market today. When account holders couldn't log in, Blizzard extended their user's accounts, that is the kinda of business they run, a good one.

WOW is a BRAND NEW game, all the games you have referenced as COMPARISIONS have been in existence for YEARS, compared to months....? You fail to understand that that is an illogical and unfair comparision. I have played every MMORPG on the market at least once, and WOW is the best all-around MMO on the market. Keep in mind that Blizzard hasn't even implemented HALF of the in-game elements they've promised too.

Regardless of that, WOW still beat all sales records compared to EQ, EQ2, UO, AO, Lineage, Lineage 2, SWG, FFXI, etc.. and we haven't even discussed the long-term sales records yet. Your game will most definately lose at that too. Blizzard has the user base and the experience to develop WOW into the best MMORPG out there. Right now it might not be as advanced as other MMO's on the market, (no shit sherlock, its brand new), but give WOW a year, and I guarantee you will be DEAD WRONG about all your minor stabs and stats.

We will have the most accounts in one years time compared to all MMO's, we already have a stable network enviroment, and we will enjoy the best implemented pvp system next to Ultima Online. We can raid towns and kill everyone, we will eventually be able to own homes, use seige weapons in battlegrounds, use a pvp honor system with rewards, hero classes, assassinate enemy guild leaders... dude you simply have NOT read enough about WOW to even comment on it's entirety.

Accept your fate, play your game, and let the big boys play theirs. No one cares about a MMO that has a shitty PVP system with an endless cycle of hack and slash.... especially the WAAGH BRIGADE!!!!

[Edited on January 21, 2005 at 10:49 AM. Reason : -]

1/21/2005 10:22:30 AM

The most disappointing thing about WoW to me so far is that they haven't announced hero classes yet.

I can't wait for that.

1/21/2005 10:43:22 AM

Quote :

"WoW has raid groups as well. What I am looking forward to are rewards for PvP'ing. Like access to special mounts and items. I will admit that the forums are nothing but whiny trash, but its the bnet crowd that posts on those forums. And you can't forget WoWs instances!"

I thought it stange that theylisted WoW as not having raid parties (more than your basic 5/6.. EQ2 goes up to 24 atm I believe).

EQ2 uses intances too, even basic zones instance out at certain population caps so that zones can't be overcrowded (a feature that I think all MMO's should implement).

Quote :

"Stimwalt: You cannot talk about WOW graphics until you run WOW on a superior system. (Nebucanezzar's machine = 3.5 Gigahertz/2 gig DDR2/GeForce 6800 Ultra/200 Gigabyte Raptor 1000 FSB/21" Flat Panel/kickass optical mouse. EQ may have a slightly advanced graphics engine, but the gameplay behind everquest is terrible, the pvp system is terrible, the diminishing returns are incredible, and the point of the game is stupid. "Hack and slash to get better armor.... to hack and slash harder monsters to get better armor..... to hack and slash even harder monsters to..." and so on... Who in their right might would find that remotely interesting... not me, and not the WAAGH!"

You've really shown your ignorance here. First off, if you think WoW on a high end machine looks good then look at EQ, blows it out of the water graphically. Second, EQ2 doesn't even have PVP implemented so how could you even rate it? (Shows just how much you know about the game) This "hack and slash to get better armor" bit... what makes you think thats the point in EQ2 and what makes you think that WoW is really any different? That is the underlying point of ALL mmo's really. The crafting/RP/questing systems in EQ2 give it far more long-term playability.

Quote :

"Stimwalt: You cannot talk until you actually play WOW the way it is meant to be played. So far your remarks have been nothing more than minor stabs at a superior product. Blizzard is a brand that always delivers and they care more about their products and their users then most gaming retailers on the market today. When account holders couldn't log in, Blizzard extended their user's accounts, that is the kinda of business they run, a good one."

You can't see the forest for the trees... First off, most of the "stabbing" has been coming from WoW fans. I've done nothing but list the positives of EQ2 and point out the comments of others, like PennyArcade, showing the problems of WoW. What Blizzard did was standard (inr egards to added time). In late December there was a 3 day span that the database gave up and the servers were down. SoE gave updates every hour until the issue was resolved, gave people 3 free days extension on accounts, AND increased experience gain by 50% for 24 horus after the servers came back up to make up for "lost time" (they did a boost on Christmas too but much smaller). SOE is also successful for a reason.

Quote :

"Stimwalt: WOW is a BRAND NEW game, all the games you have referenced as COMPARISIONS have been in existence for YEARS, compared to months....? You fail to understand that that is an illogical and unfair comparision. I have played every MMORPG on the market at least once, and WOW is the best all-around MMO on the market. Keep in mind that Blizzard hasn't even implemented HALF of the in-game elements they've promised too."

I'm not sure what you are referring to here but EQ2 has only been out like 2 weeks longer than EQ2. THe other games are used by people because they have been successful, it is fair. Have you played EQ2? Because it sure doesn't seem like it from the lack of knowledge you've displayed. Oh and Blizzard "hasn't even implemented HALF of the in-game elements they've promised" is not something to brag about... that means they put out the game too soon (see SWG for failed promises and incompleteness of features).

Quote :

"Stimwalt: Regardless of that, WOW still beat all sales records compared to EQ, EQ2, UO, AO, Lineage, Lineage 2, SWG, FFXI, etc.. and we haven't even discussed the long-term sales records yet. Your game will most definately lose at that too. Blizzard has the user base and the experience to develop WOW into the best MMORPG out there. Right now it might not be as advanced as other MMO's on the market, (no shit sherlock, its brand new), but give WOW a year, and I guarantee you will be DEAD WRONG about all your minor stabs and stats."

Way wrong on a coulpe things here too... You do know that Lineage has around 2.5 MILLION subscribers, don't you? NO ONE can touch them. Lineage 2 sits around 1.5 million. FFXI ahs over 500,000 subsribers so I'd think its well past WoW right now too. EQ1 sits at just under 500,000 subscribers and has been there steadily for a few years now. EQ2 is right no par with WoW in subscribers, how quickly the software sold is really irrelevant because it says nothign about the game itself and more about the hype/expectations.

Quote :

"Stimwalt: We will have the most accounts in one years time compared to all MMO's, we already have a stable network enviroment, and we will enjoy the best implemented pvp system next to Ultima Online. We can raid towns and kill everyone, we will eventually be able to own homes, use seige weapons in battlegrounds, use a pvp honor system with rewards, assassinate enemy guild leaders... dude you simply have NOT read enough about WOW to even comment on it's entirety. Accept your fate, play your game, and let the big boys play theirs. No one cares about a MMO that has a shitty PVP system with an endless cycle of hack and slash.... especially the WAAGH BRIGADE!!!!"

See here you go again with delusional thoughts. WoW will not even be a hair on the nutsack of Lineage, accept it. No one will. If Blizzard doesn't address the major issues people are bringing up then don't expect it to grow as much as you think. I've read plenty on WoW and it doesn't interest me (namely because of the player base). As for it being for the "big boys", sure... but being a grown man I try not to play with boys... you can have your pre-pubescent adolescents.

1/21/2005 11:13:43 AM

Quote :

"if you think WoW on a high end machine looks good then look at EQ, blows it out of the water graphically"

Hey, I already said it looks better, you ignored that. You also ignored the part about EQ having higher requirements and therefore, a smaller user base.

Quote :

"Second, EQ2 doesn't even have PVP implemented so how could you even rate it?"

There you go, another reason not to even consider EQ2. EQ has a terrible PvP system, what makes you think, or anyone else, that EQ2 would have a decent PvP system? The game retailers have never proven themselves in this regard.

Quote :

"This "hack and slash to get better armor" bit... what makes you think thats the point in EQ2 and what makes you think that WoW is really any different? That is the underlying point of ALL mmo's really. The crafting/RP/questing systems in EQ2 give it far more long-term playability"

This is why WoW is different, on a PvP server, the central focus of the game is not the monsters you fight, it is the players you fight. Leveling and getting better armor and gear is SECOND to the player versus player ascept, where in EQ2 it is FIRST and ONLY. Hence, an inferior game in the WAAGH's opinion.

Quote :

"The other games are used by people because they have been successful, it is fair."

You cannot COMPARE and then RATE a game that has been in existence for multiple years to a game that has just been released. That... is NOT a fair comparision. As I've already said, time will tell who the most successful MMO will be, and you simply are calling the cards to soon, so to speak.

Quote :

"Have you played EQ2? Because it sure doesn't seem like it from the lack of knowledge you've displayed. Oh and Blizzard "hasn't even implemented HALF of the in-game elements they've promised" is not something to brag about... that means they put out the game too soon (see SWG for failed promises and incompleteness of features)."

Yes, I have played it, and my lack of knowledge is directly correlated to my lack of interest, not suprisingly. Same with you, your lack of knowledge in regards to WOW clearly indicates your lack of interest.

Blizzard always takes their time when implementing new features, this is not a new thing for their company. But when they do release the new features, it will be superior to all others, b/c Blizzard learns from other MMO's mistakes. You also fail to understand that the in-games features they have not released yet are mainly for characters that are level 40 or higher, and are players with MOUNDS of gold. This does not exist in the WOW market yet since it is SO NEW, hence implementation can be postponed.

Quote :

"You do know that Lineage has around 2.5 MILLION subscribers, don't you? NO ONE can touch them."

You will see, young padawan, you will see.

Quote :

"See here you go again with delusional thoughts. WoW will not even be a hair on the nutsack of Lineage, accept it. No one will. If Blizzard doesn't address the major issues people are bringing up then don't expect it to grow as much as you think. I've read plenty on WoW and it doesn't interest me (namely because of the player base). As for it being for the "big boys", sure... but being a grown man I try not to play with boys... you can have your pre-pubescent adolescents."

On the contrary evercrackhead. You are the delusional one that is desperately trying to belittle a game that WILL dominate the market. You say WOW has major issues and major problems to address, but you are simply wrong. What major issues? What major problems? I can log into my server at anytime, except between 10-2 on Tuesday mornings. You are so misinformed it's scary. This game will grow, and will continue to grow, and it will lead the market. Lineage 2 had a precursor, hence their large userbase. Blizzard has Diablo, Diablo 2, Warcraft 1/2/3, Starcraft, and much more, which will all influence the WOW userbase. You will see, time will tell the victor.

Not that it matters at all, but have fun hacking and slashing your boring MMO life away. I think I'll go raid Astranaar and kill a few key NPC's to prevent the alliance from gaining strength. Can you do that in EQ2? HAHAHA, no, and you never will be able too. As for calling all WOW users prepubescent kids, I ask you, who is the real adult here? kthx.

[Edited on January 21, 2005 at 11:48 AM. Reason : -]

1/21/2005 11:39:34 AM

By the way.

WoW just opened in Korea.

Since Korea holds official StarCraft tournaments

And Warcaft Three tournaments

It's safe to say there is a large blizzard fanbase there that would at least like to see what all the ho-hum is about.

And with that, my friend, Lineage two will be but a piece of stank lint on Blizzards nutsack. Not even a pube.

Oh and Stein

WoW is centuries better in gameplay then StarCraft.

Hell, Risk is more strategic then StarCraft.

Don't post in game discussions.

1/21/2005 11:51:08 AM

jesus some of you people get fucking anal about a game

1/21/2005 11:57:30 AM

Quote :

"still no Doomsaw"

i've invested 5 points into polearm mastery instead of axe mastery for the very existence of this weapon

1/21/2005 11:58:12 AM

^^

Plus, he's bashing WOW in a WOW thread, and he doesn't even play the game.

A real winner folks.

1/21/2005 12:09:07 PM

And who said this game was ugly?

On an ATI 9500 Pro (shitty graphics card):

1/21/2005 12:38:30 PM

Quick question: What was the key combo to get ride of bars, etc. for screenshots?

1/21/2005 12:42:49 PM

I like it..nuff said..if you don't like it don't play it /

1/21/2005 12:44:26 PM

^^Alt-Z

1/21/2005 12:45:56 PM

Quote :

"dont post in this thread again, honestly. nothing in this game is ground breaking, and you fucking know it. running back to your body as a ghost, as opposed to running back to pray on a grave doesnt count as ground breaking."

Dude. Stop making an ass out of yourself. It is painfully obvious you haven't read about Battlegrounds. Go do it. Good fucking Christ.

1/21/2005 12:49:47 PM

Bigman=ghey

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1/21/2005 12:54:28 PM

Quinn, just in case you're too fucking stupid to find it on your own (and I suspect you are):

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds.html

Read up, bitch. Also, remove your foot from your mouth.

1/21/2005 1:00:25 PM

Being an avid fan of fps/rts I can't wait for BGS

1/21/2005 1:05:32 PM

[Edited on January 21, 2005 at 1:10 PM. Reason : pics]

1/21/2005 1:07:44 PM

^you suck at the internet

1/21/2005 1:10:17 PM

1/21/2005 1:12:58 PM

Quote :

"Quinn, just in case you're too fucking stupid to find it on your own (and I suspect you are): http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/pvp/battlegrounds.html Read up, bitch. Also, remove your foot from your mouth"

So we get siege weapons to completly clone the daoc battlegrounds right?


dont get me wrong i love wow, and think its is a very polished game. i dont feel that anything in it is ground breaking, and most everyone who has played a vast number of MMO's feels the same way.

[Edited on January 21, 2005 at 1:23 PM. Reason : IM NOT A h8r]

1/21/2005 1:17:51 PM

no

1/21/2005 1:20:49 PM

DAoC battlegrounds = run around a huge fucking zone praying to run into enemies, or camping the same bridge for hours, or siegeing to take over a keep.

WoW bgs = take over graveyards, towers, summon a huge ass fucking monster, airstrikes, capped amount so zerging isn't an "I win" button

1/21/2005 1:22:55 PM