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themayor
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^^^^ Can we get a re-cap???

[Edited on June 17, 2009 at 11:18 PM. Reason : 131]

6/17/2009 11:17:30 PM

AC Slater
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sorry dont know why that went dead on me

http://www.highschoolhoop.com/recruiting-news/2009/06/cj-leslie-dishes-on-real-reason-why-he-backed-out-of-nc-state-commitment/

6/17/2009 11:22:42 PM

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"Super recruit who backed out of his N.C. State commitment now has his eye on UNC, Florida and Kentucky."


Bye bye.

6/17/2009 11:27:08 PM

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It seems like the interviewer doesn't like State. See the interview with Ryan Harrow as further evidence. No one questioned O.J. Mayo when he went to USC or when Michael Beasley went to Kansas State.

6/17/2009 11:28:30 PM

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Yea he definately doesnt like state at all

A lot of those questions were loaded as shit but hey, hopefully our play on the court this year makes him want to come back.

/wishful thinking

6/17/2009 11:31:11 PM

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yeah, they certainly were loaded questions.

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"I’m curious, did the overall lack of respect for the State program contribute to you de-commiting?"


really? jesus.

6/17/2009 11:33:51 PM

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"But it wasn’t a big affect. It had an affect, but it wasn’t a big affect. "

6/17/2009 11:34:55 PM

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The Harrow interview. Fuck that guy (the interviewer, not Ryan).

http://www.highschoolhoop.com/recruiting-news/2009/06/2k-sports-preseason-all-american-team-ryan-harrow/

6/17/2009 11:36:01 PM

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more immaculate journalism

[Edited on June 17, 2009 at 11:38 PM. Reason : what a fucking douche interviewer]

[Edited on June 17, 2009 at 11:39 PM. Reason : lol affect. stupid fuck.]

6/17/2009 11:36:50 PM

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yeah, i've noticed that as well, brass. the harrow interview was the first i noticed and there's no reason to keep saying there's a "lack of respect for the state program" everytime you're talking to a kid that has them on their list.

6/17/2009 11:39:43 PM

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GREG DOYEL EXPOSED?!?!?!

6/17/2009 11:41:06 PM

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So apparently no surgery for Wood.

We can all agree that that's a good thing.

6/18/2009 8:59:46 AM

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^* yeah, those guys at HSH clearly have some kind of bias; the quesitons to Harrow AND CJL were so leading and negative.

6/18/2009 9:46:03 AM

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I cannot take anything from that website seriously because the author clearly has a bias. If and when a more objective writer asks CJL about his recruiting, I will be more inclined to read what is said.

But that douche is an obvious hack, probably a tarhole who went to community college because he couldn't get into Elizabeth City State.

6/18/2009 9:48:56 AM

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That site's Top50 has Mychal Parker @ 31, but no Harrow or Cothron.

6/18/2009 9:58:01 AM

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^ With Harrow it makes sense. The cookie-cutter recruiting sites look at a kid's size (height/weight) and offer list, with maybe some high school stats and a recruiting video thrown in too. Everyone that's seen Harrow actually PLAY in person however has him much higher in their Top 100 lists.

6/18/2009 12:59:55 PM

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"HSH: Well, from our perspective, it looked like a situation where they were the first school to offer you and you got excited and pulled the trigger. Then your talent manifested and Raleigh just wasn’t big enough for you…
CL: (Laughs) You know a lot of people say that same thing. It would amaze you how often I hear that. I don’t even know who half of the people are that say that to me. I could just be walking down the street and someone will stop me and say, “You’re way too good to go to State.” It’s crazy.

HSH: I’m curious, did the overall lack of respect for the State program contribute to you de-commiting?
CL: I don’t know about that. I’m not gonna lie, it didn’t help the program to hear that stuff all the time. But it wasn’t a big affect. It had an affect, but it wasn’t a big affect. "


what a cocksucker

6/18/2009 1:03:36 PM

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i hope he fails miserably at life. seriously, good. get the hell out of raleigh you prick.

6/18/2009 1:07:04 PM

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You guys get too worked up over what high school kids say. It was a question he was led in to answering. Who cares? He decided not to come here and it is over. I'm not going to kill a kid for making a decision that he feels is better for his future.

We'll be fine without Leslie...

6/18/2009 1:10:09 PM

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well I meant that the interviewer is a cocksucker

but I guess they both are

6/18/2009 1:12:33 PM

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i think the anger is toward the interviewer, not the interviewee

6/18/2009 1:13:36 PM

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im not saying that, i'm saying that YOU saying that stuff to the media when all NC State University did was be the first one to (1)recognize your talents (2) recruit you & (3) offer you a scholarship and a free ride (waaaaaaaaaaay in advance), speaks a lot about your character.

he could be a bit more respectful of his hometown university.

so yes, F him

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 1:15 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2009 1:14:20 PM

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So you're saying every kid who doesn't accept his initial scholarship is a cocksucker?

Half our team is cocksuckers then I guess... That Russell Wilson character is a huge douche too.

^^ not in this case... but that would at least be understandable though what we have done the last two seasons I don't expect many people to respect us. Win and that will change, though.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 1:17 PM. Reason : x]

6/18/2009 1:16:03 PM

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that's a pretty unprofessional interview. that is all.

6/18/2009 1:18:48 PM

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^^ no, thats why i edited it and tried to stress the waaaaay early factor.

im not saying that at all, its just crap to me to even respond to a shitty question like that with that answer about beign "too good for state".

you could at least be thankful for the opportunity that was given

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 1:19 PM. Reason : .]

6/18/2009 1:19:43 PM

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^^ What do you expect? That website looks like shit.

WPH looks better... though each as biased as the other it appears, but in totally opposite ways.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 1:21 PM. Reason : x]

6/18/2009 1:20:11 PM

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^ WPH is indeed biased, but they're biased in that it's an NC State blog run by NC State alumni for NC State fans. A site like that will always give a more optimistic, positive, glass 1/2 full spin on things.

What WPH doesn't do is throw other teams under the damn bus. They don't go outa their way to bash other teams. You don't see them firing potshots at UNC, Duke, etc.

Jason Jordan on the other hand asked about CJ decommitting and followed up with the following:

1) "So you basically jumped at the 1st offer you got and then came to your senses, right?"

2) "Isn't it true that you decommitted from State b/c your just too good for them (and they suck)?"


As I've said before, the bball team's performance this year is critical. If the team comes together and overachieves, then Lowe should continue to have success bringing in quality players. If not, he might not have a job period.

[Edited on June 18, 2009 at 3:59 PM. Reason : meh]

6/18/2009 3:54:07 PM

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Back to Recruiting:

Wolfpacker has this article on Anali Okoloji, who just attended skills camp. It kinda implies that he may end up here. The issues: (1) hes class of 09 & (2) his SAT is 100 points low. We are out of scholarships right? So would he have to walk on?

The good news:
Ht: 6-foot-8
Wt: 220 lbs
Shooting guard

6/18/2009 7:32:39 PM

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wood has a slightly torn mcl, no surgery required but needs 3-4 weeks rest. still sounds bad, though.

6/18/2009 8:22:08 PM

simonn
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erioooooos, we know man.

we know.

6/18/2009 9:17:04 PM

themayor
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^^ did the same thing, few weeks rest and its now my good knee

6/18/2009 9:39:44 PM

Erios
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simooooooooooooooooooonn... um... meh I got nothin'

Here's my favorite part of the Lowe press conference (Kudos to WPH for getting the transcript up so quickly):

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"Q: Coming into your fourth year does it feel like its actually your first, seeing as this is the first season with your players?

Coach Lowe: "It does, it does, because it is the first time we're going to be young. It's the first time that it's going to be the majority of my guys."

Q: Do you feel like this is your chance to put your stamp on the program?

Coach Lowe: "Absolutely, absolutely. There is no question about it and I've gotten that from three different college coaches. "This is your chance to make a mark, this is your chance to change things...you can change the culture"

Q: Who were the 3 coaches?

Coach Lowe: "Tubby Smith, Tom Izzo and Todd Bozeman."

Q: Does that type of thing excite you, does this opportunity excite you?

Coach Lowe: "I'm excited. I'm extremely excited. I just like the way the guys are together right now. The way they're carrying on, the way they're working. I'm excited about the guys I know are going to be better.
I really expect Dennis Horner to have a great year for us, I really do. I didn't recruit him, but you know what, he stuck it out, he stayed here. He could have left. He's bigger now, he's been in the gym, he's working out, his mind set is good. I think Javi is going to be better. I think Johny is going to be better, he's going to play more. I'm just really excited.""


[Edited on June 19, 2009 at 9:04 AM. Reason : [/quote]]

6/19/2009 9:04:26 AM

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If nothing else, the chemistry on this year's team should be a huge improvement.

Interesting he throws out Horner and JT when talking about improvements. Guess that's proof that Lowe plan to start Horner and not one of the new recruits at the PF spot (as he should).

6/19/2009 9:32:49 AM

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he made a joke that horner walks around w/ his shirt off now b/c he's so proud of how big he's gotten.

we shall see soon enough.

6/19/2009 9:48:29 AM

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if horner could hit a damn open 3 pointer, he would have earned the playing time he got


Also, when guys change their body a lot, they usually experience worse shooting. This should be the sophomore slump.

6/19/2009 9:52:23 AM

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Eh, its not that he can't make a 3. It's that he would rather pump fake 40 times rather than pulling the trigger.

6/19/2009 10:33:13 AM

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"...horner walks around w/ his shirt off now b/c he's so proud of how big he's gotten."


Maybe he got some more ink.

[Edited on June 19, 2009 at 10:38 AM. Reason : he shot .400 from 3 in the ACC. that ain't bad.]

6/19/2009 10:34:35 AM

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"I don't know if you've seen any of our guys, but if you have you'll see. They're different, they're just different. Their expressions are different, their mindsets are different, their bodies are different. Dennis Horner likes to walk around with his shirt off for the first time. It's interesting. He's proud of his work. "


what i think that quote speaks more of, is Dennis didn't feel like a part of the team with the upperclassmen around. like they'd clown on him or something for being....dennis horner.

maybe that team really did have some fucked up chemistry issues the past two years. maybe we're better off without them.

though I'm sure in December there will be the claims of "Man, if we only had Fells or McCauley right now, we'd be awesome!!11!"

[Edited on June 19, 2009 at 11:58 AM. Reason : added quote]

6/19/2009 11:56:13 AM

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Noel Johnson is going to Clemson

6/19/2009 11:54:11 PM

simonn
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he can't be excited about that.

6/20/2009 2:37:24 PM

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"though I'm sure in December there will be the claims of "Man, if we only had Fells or McCauley right now, we'd be awesome!!11!""


Doubtful. They had plenty of time to make us awesome and didn't.

6/20/2009 5:10:50 PM

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clearly you don't recall their heroic push to the second round of the tournament as freshmen.

6/21/2009 12:45:32 AM

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fells + grant tried their best, but someone wouldn't let them win the game. mccauley was riding the bench behind evtimov because he couldn't shoot the 3 pointer, hit one out of every 10 scoop shots, and get beat on defense every time down.

6/21/2009 1:13:10 AM

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^^loling right now and waiting for biters

6/21/2009 5:50:54 PM

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i miss the Tony Bethel 3pt threat. that guy could shoot the rock.

true or false: Engin Atsur was the best point guard we've had since the early 90s?


swizzle stick?

6/21/2009 7:18:47 PM

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Engin wasn't even a full-time PG til his senior year. He was pretty damn good that year though.

Justin Gainey was solid. Four-year starter, all-ACC choice in '99, top-10 in school history in assists. He's the guy that played every minute of every game during the 1997 ACC Tournament (we played four games, so 160 minutes).

6/21/2009 10:29:16 PM

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Did bethel even play enough to have much said about him? I remember when he beat GT with that last second fake and drive for a layup.


Other than that, he was just sick a lot.

6/21/2009 10:33:56 PM

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i remember when bethel would've had the highest 3pt% in the acc, if he had enough shots to count.

i know what you're thinking, how did a guard playing for herb sendek not have enough shots to count? i don't know man.

6/21/2009 10:39:20 PM

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I was at this pep rally at the McKimmon Center to welcome Coach Lowe, I think kevmcd was there with some of his friends, and Coach Lowe was introducing the staff. When he came to Gainey he asked him about the 1997 tournament and the legend that he played every minute, but he confessed that he actually came out for 2 minutes in one game.

[Edited on June 21, 2009 at 11:27 PM. Reason : ]

6/21/2009 11:27:13 PM

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^hahahahahah true story. i cant believe u remember that

6/21/2009 11:55:08 PM

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