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"This fine state has two pro franchises in Charlotte that might be of interest to you"

What about the Charlotte FC (Fart Club)

9/29/2024 5:22:19 PM

The first rule of fart club is you don't talk about fart club

9/29/2024 5:24:09 PM

lol I thought about them but I have no idea if they are good or not

9/29/2024 7:04:03 PM

Well they suck because they play soccer

9/29/2024 9:33:49 PM

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"When was the last time we had a QB you think would be be capable of that?"

You'd think it would be on the head coach to recruit guys that fit his system.

But that's asking too much.

9/30/2024 10:09:10 AM

When wasrl the last time we had a QB make it through a full season? How many qbs across college football or capable of running a high paced no huddle?

[Edited on September 30, 2024 at 11:14 AM. Reason : I mean look shame on Dave for making dumb promises but... ]

9/30/2024 11:13:45 AM

Leary. Like 3 seasons ago.

9/30/2024 11:46:16 AM

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"How many qbs across college football or capable of running a high paced no huddle"

A dozen or more.

Point is, he isn't recruiting for that type of offence anyways and have you even seen a slight hint of this type style with DD in the past 5 years?

9/30/2024 12:16:44 PM

Coach Philip Rivers and QB Gunner Rivers would be a trip.

Just sayin'.

9/30/2024 3:06:40 PM

^^ Nyheim Hines and Jaylen Samuels 5 7 years ago

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"Coach Philip Rivers and QB Gunner Rivers would be a trip."

That's the only thing that could save this program!

9/30/2024 3:46:59 PM

I get it, NCSU is never going to contend for a national championship. It's not even reasonable to expect NCSU to compete for an ACC championship.

All I'm asking is to watch us be mediocre under a different coach.

10/5/2024 3:38:14 PM

Where my Dave fan boys at?

10/5/2024 4:20:41 PM

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"How many qbs across college football or capable of running a high paced no huddle?"

Lol.

There are quite a few that run "no huddle" offenses. There are almost (or possibly) zero that run a high paced no huddle. It is extremely, extremely rare for a college QB to have authority/ability to call their own plays which is a requirement for the type of offense you're asking for. There definitely aren't a dozen or more college QBs doing this

10/5/2024 4:35:51 PM

^^i wouldn’t call myself a fan boy, but I’ve been a supporter. Mostly think what he’s done is under appreciated. I certainly don’t think he’s some fantastic coach that never deserves criticism. But I do lol at the people that seem to get joy out of him losing games.

10/5/2024 4:52:07 PM

Did we really call a safety blitz when Wake had a 4th and 5?

10/5/2024 4:55:37 PM

Eh. We didn’t blitz and they scrambled to pick up a 4th and 9 earlier right? I didn’t think the call was that bad. Their QB just made a play. They were awful vs the blitz most of the game I thought.

10/5/2024 5:00:28 PM

Wake it's fucking Wake just fucking beat Wake.

10/7/2024 10:10:00 AM

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"It's not even reasonable to expect NCSU to compete for an ACC championship."

Why? Only 3-4 teams that consistently compete for that. The rest that pop in and out (of success) are a crap shoot. And we can't even manage that. And the whole point of these few sentences is to reinforce that, outside of 1-2 teams, the ACC has been a mediocre conference for well over a decade.

10/7/2024 12:48:19 PM

One of the biggest gripes I have with Dave, and it may just be the nature of being a mediocre ACC team, is that he can't put together a complete team.

The years where he recruits offense heavy, his defense sucks. Years where the defense is good, the offense is bad. When O&D are decent, special teams sucks.

10/7/2024 1:23:00 PM

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"Wake it's fucking Wake just fucking beat Wake."

To be fairrrr to Wake, they have won an ACC championship in the last 20 years. They can build off of that prestige from 18 years ago.

10/7/2024 1:41:30 PM

^^when offense and defense are both good he still coaches us into frustratingly stupid losses. See 2017 and 2018 and count the number of players on both sides.of the ball who went pro and are still in the NFL.

10/8/2024 6:55:08 PM

We lost those because we had a bad qb

10/9/2024 3:03:42 PM

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"Why? Only 3-4 teams that consistently compete for that. The rest that pop in and out (of success) are a crap shoot. And we can't even manage that. And the whole point of these few sentences is to reinforce that, outside of 1-2 teams, the ACC has been a mediocre conference for well over a decade."

Just my attempt to short-circuit the usual talking points/strawmen that people trot out whenever we start talking about finding a new coach.

10/9/2024 5:37:23 PM

^^Finley was not a shitty qb. Dave is a shitty coach.

10/9/2024 6:42:25 PM

Finley was a shitty QB who played on an offense full of NFL players.

10/9/2024 7:56:44 PM

With a star studded defense that underperformed under a chicken shit coach

How could anyone argue Finley was a shitty qb while at the same time arguing Dave is competent? At least Finley got drafted. If we're ever smart enough to shitcan Dave his ceiling will be bottom feeding in the MWC.

[Edited on October 9, 2024 at 9:29 PM. Reason : ]

[Edited on October 9, 2024 at 9:38 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2024 9:19:05 PM

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"Just my attempt to short-circuit the usual talking points/strawmen that people trot out whenever we start talking about finding a new coach."

Well done sir

10/10/2024 11:22:56 AM

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"At least Finley got drafted. "

And completely washed out of the league in less than 2 years lol. That's impressive considering some of the QBs who are able to stick as backups.

I've stated my reasons for thinking Finley wasn't good on here many, many times but I'll do it again.

I'll start by saying his biggest strength (possibly only one) by far was his ability to read defenses pre-snap. In college this means he could throw to one of his multiple NFL receivers in single coverage and either let them go up and catch it or underthrow them badly because of his noodle arm so the receiver would stop, get ran into and draw a penalty. The big difference between college and pro defenses is that college defenses rarely disguise their coverages and NFL defenses routinely do, so QBs have to read and react on the fly. Finley was TERRIBLE at this in college, he struggled mightily if the guy he expected to be open based on his pre-snap read was in fact covered. In the NFL he was toast because he couldn't process the plays as they happened to find the open guy because it was never who he thought it was going to be. Finley played with an incredible OL which was good because any pressure at all caused him to freak out and make bad decisions and terrible throws.

In conclusion, Finley was not a special college QB. He was a guy who played with a ridiculous amount of talented offensive players who made him look much better than he appeared to be to the casual observer. He got away with A LOT of bad throws because he had NFL receivers and an NFL offensive line protecting him, but struggled to process information at game speeds during live play which ultimately doomed him to be one of the worst NFL QBs of all time

10/10/2024 6:40:20 PM

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"If we're ever smart enough to shitcan Dave his ceiling will be bottom feeding in the MWC."

lol.

Do you think State is such an easy job that any average coach can walk in a win 8 to 9 games every year and >.500 ball in the ACC?

I think people just have unrealistic expectations about what is reasonable for State football. That doesn’t mean Doeren is a HOF coach. That doesn’t mean you can’t dislike his style. It doesn’t even mean we should not consider firing him (although i think any hot seat talk this year is silly).

10/11/2024 6:23:23 AM

Our offense looks like fucking dogshit with or without mccall, and we havent been able to run the ball in years.

10/11/2024 9:30:21 AM

That’s true!

10/11/2024 10:33:29 AM

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"people just have unrealistic expectations about what is reasonable for State football."

10/11/2024 10:33:40 PM

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"Best ACC football winning percentages (past 5 years): 1. Clemson - 87% 2. Pitt - 63.1% T3. NC State - 61.3% T3. Wake - 61.3% 5. Miami - 54.1%"

This thread is fun to look at past years and read. The addition of Stanford and Cal should keep us in the top 5 this year.

10/12/2024 11:17:37 AM

Seat has to be getting a little warm after these past few performances

10/12/2024 10:55:30 PM

Boo ain't gonna do shit.

10/12/2024 11:00:27 PM

First year coach of middling ACC program goes on the road to comfortably beat idiot who's had over ten years to establish his program and literally no one is surprised. If you think we should have won this game you need to lower your unreasonable expectations.

10/12/2024 11:33:53 PM

Herb Sendek of coaches now.

10/13/2024 7:28:21 AM

Speaking of first year coaches, our team looks like it's coached by one. Stupid self inflicted penalties. Sloppy ball handling (hello turnovers). It's embarrassing to watch.

10/14/2024 3:50:38 PM

Thank you for your wonderful insight APTroll. I put a lot of stock into the posts of someone who came back after nearly 5 years to say it was good that the basketball team lost so we could fire the "loser coach"

10/14/2024 4:53:04 PM

^

10/14/2024 5:29:19 PM

https://www.technicianonline.com/sports/column-nc-state-football-fans-did-their-part-but-doeren-s-wolfpack-didn-t-hold/article_8b17f46c-897c-11ef-8e66-0fd7680f6c29.html

10/14/2024 8:19:11 PM

I can admit when I'm wrong and will happily do so. Keatts was a dead man walking until O'Connell hit the 3 against UVA. The final four run is my greatest sports memory ever and despite my regular criticism of Keatts over the last few years I'll now recognize there's a chance he'll put it together and make a run at the end of the season and go deep in the postseason because he's now done it.

What has Dave done that even sniffs Keatts' run to the final four? He is a predictable loser. You can look at our schedule every year and say "here are the ranked teams that will win the game by the end of the 1st. Here are the less talented programs with superior coaching that will outcoach us to a win. Here are the division II trams that pad Dave's record every year."

This fucking loser will never come close to giving us something g to cheer for like Keatts did. I appreciate, though, that the facts about Dave I presented frustrated you enough that you had to dig into my post history.

[Edited on October 18, 2024 at 8:31 PM. Reason : ^MORE OF THIS. We will absolutely see it because we will absolutely keep losing in terrible fashion ]

10/18/2024 8:22:29 PM

Dave will be here as long as he wants to be, provided there aren't any scandals/discipline issues and he doesn't lose the locker room. There hasn't been an inkling of either of those things in his time here, so I don't expect it to happen now.

10/19/2024 2:13:38 PM

If his past is predictive of his future then he’ll be here for a long time. Back to back clunkers of like 4-8 might change that. But he has shown no real reason to expect back to back shitty years.

10/19/2024 2:46:57 PM

Is Doeren is a LOSER than how did he WIN this game?? Answer that one!!

10/19/2024 7:04:44 PM

+1 credibility

10/19/2024 7:16:21 PM

^^ Cal was worse?

10/19/2024 8:12:20 PM

^^^cal freshman missed a chip shot field.goal that would have sealed it.

But credit where credits due. We came from behind to win on the road. We.seem to have a lot of young offensive weapons, and we have a QB.

Counterpoint is Cal gave the game away. Time will tell if we build on this or we go back to getting outcoached next week.

10/19/2024 8:57:01 PM

I guarantee we do not get out coached next week.

10/20/2024 7:06:43 AM

Oh right the bye lol.

10/20/2024 8:23:57 AM