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ssclark
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you left out the best one immediately before the win

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"We are going to lose to the worst team in the ACC after having a 14 point lead. fire him now"

1/31/2015 2:44:24 PM

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1/31/2015 2:45:10 PM

GingaNinja
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Lol. Greatest gif ever

1/31/2015 3:12:34 PM

jbrick83
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crown the mother fucker.

1/31/2015 3:19:59 PM

GingaNinja
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Pay him Debbie

1/31/2015 3:28:18 PM

thegoodlife3
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same as it ever was

2/3/2015 8:49:20 PM

ohmy
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we will beat uva. and i'll still want him fired.

2/3/2015 8:50:52 PM

NyM410
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Better than Sid. Bout the same as the guy who preceded Sid. More or less.

2/3/2015 8:51:30 PM

tower
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with the talent he has he should be fred hoiberg at worst. his coaching is unbelievable

2/3/2015 8:52:53 PM

Sweden
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not credible.

2/3/2015 8:56:42 PM

rflong
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Baring some miracle wins over the remaining ranked teams, this season is over. Is Gott on the hot seat next year if we suck again?

2/3/2015 9:01:29 PM

ralockle
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Personally he should be on it this year, right now this season is really starting to go down the toilet

2/3/2015 9:16:17 PM

bdmazur
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Everything hinges on next season.

2/3/2015 9:32:12 PM

ncstatetke
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tremendous 2nd half defense

must have been one hell of a halftime speech

+1 cred

2/3/2015 9:42:03 PM

spencer
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except the first 8 minutes or so where nothing really changed. wish we could start these comebacks when we're down ~12 instead of down 20+

2/3/2015 9:48:22 PM

GingaNinja
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What a bipolar team, just what this bipolar fanbase needs

2/3/2015 10:26:01 PM

Sandman
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I am now firmly on the fire Gottfried bandwagon. Consistently outcoached by coaches with less experience, horrible on the road, can only beat good teams on their bad days, lack of player development (any kind of interior presence inside, believe it or not players are supposed to improve shooting FT's in their collegiate career, inability to develop a pg).

Bring on Archie, hodge assistant coach....it would be a great transition year considering we havent done dick recruiting-wise

[Edited on February 3, 2015 at 10:40 PM. Reason : M]

2/3/2015 10:28:24 PM

natureboy
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Still credible but this is really looking like a lost season. I am starting to get worried about our ability to develop big men. Cj Leslie seemed to regress, and all three of our sophomore big men haven't developed much. I guess Howell would be the one good case, but it is becoming obvious that JJ Hickson isn't walking through that door anytime soon.

2/3/2015 10:31:30 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^^LOL, true though

2/3/2015 10:36:15 PM

ncstatetke
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we NEEED pitt, fsu, and miami to all lose this week

if not we could all of a sudden be 12th place

2/3/2015 10:38:14 PM

Sandman
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I was shocked. i thought TT and i agreed for once

2/3/2015 10:41:09 PM

AstralEngine
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"I am now firmly on the fire Gottfried bandwagon."


His inability to develop players is frustrating as fuck:

- they stand around while we run the same three point double screen play every possession

- any team who wants to put in the effort could pick off our passes every possession because we are a lazy

- our guys are more interested in tipping the ball instead of rebounding with two hands

- on that same note, they never box anyone out

- everyone knows exactly what our stupid high post offense is going to do, and they defend it accordingly

- Our whole team is still taking stupid long range 2 point jump shots 10 seconds into the shot clock

- every fucking game Washington/Lee/Turner are good for two or three of those retarded over the back defensive pass poke attempts

- Our players routinely slash to the basket, get right underneath it, then pass the ball and extra two or three times because they don't want ot be the guy taking the shot

- Our team should be called butterfingers state, because we fumble, have balls swatted out of our hands, and lose track of the ball entirely too often.


This shit is bball 101. Players should not be able to get away with being bad at these things.

2/3/2015 11:20:36 PM

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smdh

2/3/2015 11:28:14 PM

ncstatetke
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I know that facilitator point guards aren't as sexy as scoring point guards, but there's no damn reason why we should be just barely inside the top-300 in assists

2/3/2015 11:43:39 PM

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246 = "just barely inside the top-300" eh?


[Edited on February 3, 2015 at 11:48 PM. Reason : Closer to being "just barely outside the top-200" amirite???]

2/3/2015 11:47:09 PM

rwoody
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His statement was wrong but 246 is still pretty damn low, although that stat alone isn't a harbinger

2/3/2015 11:54:27 PM

tower
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cat and lacey are both fine assist wise

the problem is pretty much no one else on the roster gets assists aside from cody. but really, offense isnt our problem (as always with gott)

2/4/2015 12:05:26 AM

davelen21
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We have exactly what we thought we were getting. Pretty good recruiter, terrible coach, dumpster fires every game. Still better than Lowe.

2/4/2015 5:58:02 AM

bronco
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I honestly cannot believe he couldn't make the dance with this roster. Goddammit. -1000

2/4/2015 8:03:04 AM

Doss2k
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It is times like these that make me appreciate how great TJ Warren really was

2/4/2015 8:40:04 AM

GingaNinja
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Last year was supposed to be rebuilding into this year.

2/4/2015 10:11:21 AM

packboozie
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^^And we barely snuck in the tournament with the ACC POY.

We damn near have 10 top 100 talent players and we are 62 in RPI and 56 in KenPom.

He's done a terrible job this year. We are stuck with him though for at least another year or two.

2/4/2015 11:41:53 AM

GingaNinja
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I hope he either does well enough to stay till K,Roy and Boeheim retire

OR

tank and GTFO so we could start over with Archie ASAP.

2/4/2015 12:07:52 PM

cptinsano
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I wish no ill on Archie so I hope he stays far, FAR away from this program for a long time. He can be our basketball Cowher.

2/4/2015 1:01:21 PM

yrey
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"We damn near have 10 top 100 talent players and we are 62 in RPI and 56 in KenPom."


Why do you claim this? We have a deep rooster of bigs, but none of them are good enough to make 1st, 2nd, or even 3rd team all ACC. In matter of fact, Lacey may be the only player on our rooster that makes the list, maybe Turner if he finish the season strong. This season isn't over yet so i'll reserve my judgement until I see the complete picture.

2/4/2015 1:32:36 PM

tower
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our bigs suck but thats an evaluation/development issue. outside of freeman, gott aint trying to make chicken salad out of chicken shit

i'd love to know what teams out there have better talent than cat/lacey/turner/martins 1-3. i doubt there's a list longer than 10

virginias starting pg is fucking london perrantes

2/4/2015 1:45:24 PM

tower
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of the offenses higher than ours on kenpom here are the teams i would say clearly have more talented guards/wings (where most of the offense comes from in college):

duke
indiana
kentucky
ohio state

roughly equal:
nd
arizona
kansas i guess? i doubt gott would do better with these guys since the talent is all young/inconsistent

2/4/2015 2:00:11 PM

yrey
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"i'd love to know what teams out there have better talent than cat/lacey/turner/martins 1-3. i doubt there's a list longer than 10"


We have a good group of guards and wings but that needs to be balanced with good big men which we have none of. That along defense is an issue that Gott needs to get sorted out, but i'm not convinced we have top 10 talent and no im not going to name a list of 10 teams. Barber/Caleb/Cody are still raw, Barber is peaking while it seems the twins hit the freshman wall. Turner is a sharpshooter, but he's pretty much a 1 trick pony and has been prone to defensive lapses. Lacey is the only true stud we had throughout the season and is a versatile scorer/distributor.

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"virginias starting pg is fucking london perrantes"


So? He's a good handler, distributor, and 3 point shooter. He has been playing at a higher level than our starting PG throughout the season.

2/4/2015 2:19:30 PM

tower
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if mark gottfried coached london perrantes he would look like javi

2/4/2015 2:20:23 PM

NyM410
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Anya and Abu were extremely highly rated. Yes, they are young but so are most players on good teams.

2/4/2015 2:56:55 PM

skokiaan
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Abu looks like he can be the best out the group. Has a real good second jump

2/4/2015 4:16:28 PM

bronco
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Abu had a ridiculous offer list

2/4/2015 4:17:06 PM

TreeTwista10
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"i'd love to know what teams out there have better talent than cat/lacey/turner/martins 1-3. i doubt there's a list longer than 10"


So...now Cat and Turner are ballers? I thought up until a couple games ago Cat was a terrible player? And Turner is basically just a deep threat. But now Gott has a bunch of lottery picks in the back court?

2/4/2015 5:02:31 PM

packboozie
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"Why do you claim this? "


Because they were? Barber (21), Martin (66), Martin (67), Lacey (60), Washington (91), Abu (56), Anya (60) all top 100. Turner was just outside and offered by nearly all the SEC. Freeman 3* out of Oak Hill.

Surely you do not really think talent is the issue here? Outside of Duke and UNC, we are probably third.

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"So? He's a good handler, distributor, and 3 point shooter. He has been playing at a higher level than our starting PG throughout the season."


And our PG was a McDonald's All-American who beat out another McD's AA to start this year. What does that say about his coaching?

[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 6:55 PM. Reason : Dez was JUCO All American offered by several big names as well]

[Edited on February 4, 2015 at 7:01 PM. Reason : Look at the class rankings since Gott started]

2/4/2015 6:54:29 PM

aaronburro
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"In matter of fact, Lacey may be the only player on our rooster"

2/4/2015 8:58:08 PM

yrey
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"Because they were? Barber (21), Martin (66), Martin (67), Lacey (60), Washington (91), Abu (56), Anya (60) all top 100. Turner was just outside and offered by nearly all the SEC. Freeman 3* out of Oak Hill.

Surely you do not really think talent is the issue here? Outside of Duke and UNC, we are probably third."


All those guys you mentioned outside Lacey are just fr and so and therefore is not a fair indicator as of yet. Duke constantly has top recruits and now 1 and dones but they have been getting bounced early in the NCAA tournament in recent years. Sometimes experience is the best teacher. Also, recruiting is still part of coaching and there's no guarantee that a new coach will do anywhere as good.

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And our PG was a McDonald's All-American who beat out another McD's AA to start this year. What does that say about his coaching?
"


Development has been slower than expected but it's too early to run him out of town. I think next season will be time for the hot seat if we still suck which I doubt.

2/4/2015 9:01:41 PM

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"And our PG was a McDonald's All-American who beat out another McD's AA to start this year. What does that say about his coaching?"


All it tells me is that the coach ran off the guy he didn't recruit so he could play the one he did, even if he wasn't as good.

2/4/2015 9:05:17 PM

dmspack
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are we still doing the cat vs lewis debate after cat's last couple of games?

2/5/2015 8:16:24 AM

tower
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"So...now Cat and Turner are ballers? I thought up until a couple games ago Cat was a terrible player? And Turner is basically just a deep threat. But now Gott has a bunch of lottery picks in the back court?"


cat's problem wasnt talent it was play style. kelly oubre was a terrible player for half the season too

my point was no one has a bunch of lottery picks in the back court. "basically just a deep threat" i mean how many teams do you think have two guys shooting 39%+ from 3 on over 100 shots. and most of those arent wide open shots either. yeah dude has flaws but roy williams has a better offense than us with jp tokoto playing the 2 and nate britt playing 20mpg.

2/5/2015 9:46:07 AM

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^^ Yeah, a few idiots are. They're probably the same idiots calling for Gottfried to be fired to make way for Archie.

2/5/2015 11:22:54 AM

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