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Not really relevant to the team anymore, but I found it interesting that Larry Davis is transferring from Seton Hall...

4/5/2008 7:43:57 PM

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what a sucker.

4/5/2008 7:46:09 PM

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Breakdown of incoming ACC classes. Note that Rivals doesn't rank JUCO and post graduate prospects.

BC
SF Dallas Elmore 6-4 200 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*)
SG Reggie Jackson 6-3 170 (Scout 4*, Rivals 3*, Rivals 150 ranking - 108)
PF Evan Ravenel 6-7 245 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*)

CU
C Catalin Baciu 7-1 230 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 98)
SG Tanner Smith 6-5 195 (Scout 4*, Rivals 3*)
PG Andre Young 5-8 160 (Scout 4*, Rivals 3*, Rivals 150 ranking - 125)

Duke
PF Olek Czyz 6-7 235 (Scout 4*, Rivals 3*, Rivals 150 ranking - 102)
SG Elliot Williams 6-4 175 (Scout 5*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 16)

FSU
SG Deividas Dulkys 6-3 187 (Scout 3*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 65)
PF Xavier Gibson 6-10 230 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 43)
PG Pierre Jordan 6-0 150 (Scout 2*, Rivals 3*)
PG Luke Loucks 6-4 192 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 78)
SF Chris Singleton 6-8 210 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 33)
SG Derwin Kitchen 6-4 195 (Scout 4* JUCO)

GT
PG Iman Shumpert 6-4 185 (Scout 5*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 26)

UMD
SG Sean Mosley 6-3 200 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 60)
PG Bobby Maze 6-2 175 (Scout 3* JUCO)
C Gus Gilchrist 6-10/235 (Scout 4*)

UM
C Reginald Johnson 6-8 285 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*)
SF Dequan Jones 6-6 195 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 64)

UNC
PF Ed Davis 6-8 215 (Scout 5*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 20)
PG Larry Drew 6-0 160 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 76)
C Tyler Zeller 6-11 215 (Scout 5*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 22)

NCSU
PG Julius Mays 6-1 170 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*, Rivals 150 ranking - 146)
SG C.J. Williams 6-5 200 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*, Rivals 150 ranking - 142)

UVA
C John Brandenburg 6-10 235 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 68)
SG Sylven Landesberg 6-6 195 (Scout 4*, Rivals 4*, Rivals 150 ranking - 54)
C Assane Sene 6-11 220 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*)

VT
PF Victor Davila 6-8 235 (Scout 4*, Rivals 3*, Rivals 150 ranking - 133)
PG Kendall Durant 6-3 185 (Scout 3*, Rivals 3*)
C Gene Swindle 6-11 260 (Scout 2*, Rivals 2*)

WFU
SF Al-Farouq Aminu 6-8 210 (Scout 5*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 11)
C Ty Walker 6-11 215 (Scout 5*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 24)
C Tony Woods 6-11 230 (Scout 4*, Rivals 5*, Rivals 150 ranking - 18)


Average * ranking Scout, Rivals, & number of Top 150 players
BC - 3.33, 3, 1
CU - 4, 3.33, 2
DU - 4.5, 4, 2
FSU - 3.5, 3.8, 4
GT - 5, 5, 1
UMD - 3.67, 4, 1
UM - 3.5, 3.5, 1
UNC - 4.67, 4.67, 3
NCSU - 3, 3, 2
UVA - 3.67, 3.67, 2
VT - 3, 2.67, 1
WFU - 4.67, 5, 3

4/7/2008 8:05:52 PM

NyM410
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So it looks like Wake will be beasting us for awhile...

4/7/2008 8:08:13 PM

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yuck

4/7/2008 8:09:24 PM

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"So it looks like Wake will be beasting us for awhile..."


seriously. teague + ish smith + james johnson + that front court + a coach who emphasizes defense = acc championship


[Edited on April 7, 2008 at 8:18 PM. Reason : .]

4/7/2008 8:17:13 PM

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"So it looks like Wakeeverybody will be beasting us for awhile..."


I fixed that for you

4/7/2008 8:33:36 PM

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wait, so Sid can't coach or recruit.

4/7/2008 9:06:12 PM

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looks like we have favors in the bag

4/7/2008 10:14:42 PM

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i've seen a few 'shops in my day...but that looks legit!!!1111

4/7/2008 10:30:08 PM

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arm pit area gives it away

4/8/2008 12:19:38 AM

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Haha another loaded class for Leonard Hamilton to take to the NIT for 4 years.

That man must be the worst Xs and Os coach ever.

His recruiting is consistently 3rd best behind K/Roy.

4/8/2008 2:30:15 AM

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have you seen the guy in a game? he looks like he has no idea what's going on.

i remember when we played them this season everytime they'd show an fsu huddle on tv, he was just standing there w/ one of the assistants talking.

4/8/2008 3:27:19 AM

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^that is commonplace actually. Usually the assistants divy up games in which they are responsible for some gameplanning, etc.

4/8/2008 7:13:51 AM

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"wait, so Sid can't coach or recruit."


5* C J.J. Hickson
4* PF Tracy Smith
4* (as of now, potential to be a top 10 player in the 2010 class) PF C.J. Leslie

both Smith and Hickson were top 50 players. that list shows that so far he can recruit highly rated players. also Julius Mays and C.J. Williams are no slouches either. Both are Top 150 players. the only ACC schools that have all of their incoming players in the Top 150 are Duke, UNC, GT, WF, and NCSU. hopefully we can land some more 5* players this year with Brown and Wall.

4/8/2008 10:08:28 AM

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nothing against the guys, but mays and williams are nothing special for an acc recruiting class.

maybe they'll be good players, but they don't speak for lowe's talents as a recruiter.

4/8/2008 3:19:47 PM

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I think Harris plays (played) more of a role in Sid's and Herb's recruiting abilities. That guy can sell ice to an eskimo.

4/8/2008 3:52:45 PM

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Oh I didn't mean that they are the cream of the crop McD's AA type players, but they are talented and will be good 4 year players for us. You never know though, Mays might come in and ball out ala Stephen Curry. One can only hope. I'm glad that they are considered two of the Top 150 players in the class though. I think for us to be successful we'll need a mixture of 4 year players and a couple of burger boys that will be early entries into the draft. Memphis this year was a great example of this. They mixed in super frosh Rose and a bunch of multi-year guys like CDR, Dorsey, and Dozier almost seamlessly and made it to the title game.

4/8/2008 3:53:28 PM

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"nothing against the guys, but mays and williams are nothing special for an acc recruiting class"


funny post of the day

4/8/2008 3:54:02 PM

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not to discredit Harris, b/c I think he is a great recruiter, but JJ said that Lowe's ability to form a father figure like relationship with him was one reason why he came to State.

4/8/2008 3:56:25 PM

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^^^exactly. let's just hope that sidney can do a better job in the future of mixing "4 year players and a couple of burger boys that will be early entries into the draft" than he did this year.

4/8/2008 4:11:22 PM

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does it REALLYYYYYYYY have to be said again that our guards SUCK and we are too slow to compete in the ACC?

really?

4/8/2008 4:33:20 PM

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It's obvious the guards he got were last minute decisions that he couldn't really help. He was hired late, Mcmillan, wright, and davis all defected, and all we had was atsur.

It was the best he could do on short notice. I'm not going to fault sid for the rush job he had to do in guard recruiting for this year. It will be a non issue if he can grab a guy like wall.


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Also, seems like there are rumors of calapari going to the NBA. Gotta believe that would bump us up in the rankings for wall.

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 8:26 PM. Reason : .]

4/8/2008 8:25:33 PM

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link?

4/8/2008 8:42:54 PM

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Isn't Julius Mays supposed to be pretty fast? He looked pretty fast in that one youtube vid where he took the inbounds from the other end of the court and ran down to score the winning basket in 4 seconds.

http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=hR-ZDfUZZP8
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=UCxHjb3HPeI&feature=related

[Edited on April 8, 2008 at 9:25 PM. Reason : ]

4/8/2008 9:23:03 PM

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how's that a funny post, jamaica?

4/8/2008 10:46:38 PM

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Memphis is John Wall's leader right now

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""Memphis is on top," said Wall when asked about his recruitment. "Coach Calipari called my dad the other day, and I spoke recently with Coach Kellog. He said they want me to come down and see the campus and meet Derrick Rose. They feel I have a lot of similarities to him. That is a great compliment, but I'm not letting it go to my head. I want to stay humble.""


http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=796580

4/12/2008 1:52:52 PM

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4/12/2008 1:59:59 PM

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honestly, who is surprised? memphis almost won a national championship and had the best pg in the country in a system that lets him thrive. it's hard to compete with that for someone who wants to play in the nba.

4/12/2008 2:07:49 PM

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yeah but it's nice to dream

4/12/2008 2:16:59 PM

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Here's a good sign for us. Lorenzo Brown will be playing with C.J. Leslie on the Worldwide Renegades on the AAU circuit for part of the summer. Hopefully they establish a good friendship and want to continue playing with each other at State. After his visit for the Duke game Brown said, "I don't know if the other visits can top that because it was crazy." Brown liked our crowd as well as the campus.

4/12/2008 3:13:32 PM

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North Carolina State commitment Scott Wood led SYF with 21 points on 7-13 shooting. An intriguing scorer, Wood's points should translate to the ACC provided he develops some muscle mass on his thin frame and tightens up the release on his jumper.

4/12/2008 4:05:41 PM

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Calipari needs to go to the NBA

4/12/2008 4:08:32 PM

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^^ link?

4/12/2008 5:16:05 PM

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http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=796580

scroll down, its about 3/4 down the page. also has Wall naming memphis as his leader and some other news.

4/12/2008 5:31:31 PM

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Yeah I read in my "The Wolfpacker" magazine today that Wall has Memphis in the lead. He's supposed to be cutting his list down some soon. He said Memphis, Oregon, and NC State would definitely make the cut, and that we are always with him. So we are still right there in the running. If we were to land Brown, who though he can play both the 1 and the 2, likes playing the 2 more.

4/12/2008 5:34:20 PM

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if we land wall and brown (fingers crossed) where would scott wood play? he is a 2, but would we switch to what kansas did in the early 2000's when they had heinrich, langford, and miles as the gaurds with Simeon and Collison in the post? and run out a 3 gaurd 2 forward line up? with Wall/Brown playing the 1/2 and Wood as the 3rd gaurd with two post players (Costner/Favors)? waay to early to speculate i know, but i just was wondering what the thoughts around here were.

4/12/2008 5:41:29 PM

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i could really see us with a three guard lineup here, almost wish we had that anyways

4/12/2008 5:51:52 PM

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http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=796640

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"Teammate and NC State commitment Scott Wood is one of the top shooters in the event. The 6-foot-6 wing can square up with the best of them and let it fly. The SYF star went for four three-pointers in a tough overtime loss to Team Florida. He'll give the Wolfpack a smart player that will certainly be a threat on the wing for four years."



I especially like the "four years" part. Wood seems to be impressing alot at the Boo Williams Invitational.


[Edited on April 12, 2008 at 5:53 PM. Reason : .]

4/12/2008 5:52:02 PM

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the 3 guard lineup with hustling, rebounding 4/5 players seems to be the going thing nowadays

4/12/2008 6:08:53 PM

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"Calipari needs to go to the NBA"

4/12/2008 6:22:38 PM

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Well at 6-6 Wood could easily play the three, especially if he adds some muscle.

4/12/2008 6:36:21 PM

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^ 6'6" seems to be really generous, most places I've seem listed at around 6'4" and 6'5"....the latter being the more common number. Though, most players are listed an inch or two taller than they really are.

4/12/2008 6:42:56 PM

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right now wood has to gain weight just to play the 2. he'd have to put on quite a bit to play the 3.

4/12/2008 9:26:18 PM

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"Tristan Spurlock, who has been one of the most impressive prospects in the tournament, had another impressive performance and spoke about his recruitment with Rivals.com.

One of the better small forwards in the class of 2009 Spurlock broke down his school list. At the bottom of the list are Maryland (offer), Wake Forest (offer), North Carolina, Texas (offer) and USC. On the middle level are Virginia (offer), North Carolina State (offer) and Florida State (offer). And sitting at the top of the list is Georgetown (offer)."


http://ncstate.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=796801

I had thought previously that we had only offered a handful of guys for 2009 (Favors, Wall, Brown, Kelly, Wood). Seems like this guy is a player though but it will be hard pry him away from GTown.

4/13/2008 12:21:36 PM

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Ryan Kelly has been bumped to a 4* player and the #24 PF in the 2009 class (why I do not know). He also now lists us as low interest.

http://northcarolinastate.scout.com/a.z?s=178&p=8&c=1&nid=3073045

4/13/2008 8:56:02 PM

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^we will not sign ryan kelly. Don't worry about him

4/13/2008 8:57:09 PM

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it's b/c duke is showing interest.

4/13/2008 9:05:07 PM

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^you mean unc...duke isn't even recruiting him.

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4/13/2008 9:10:09 PM

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^yea, duke chose plumlee over kelly

4/13/2008 9:22:12 PM

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