This pisses me off so bad. We run into shitty pitchers like Hennesy and we can't score a fucking run.

8/19/2005 10:02:57 PM

Wow. I leave for work during the top of the 9th down 4-0 and come home to a victory. Wish I could have been there.

8/20/2005 3:15:23 AM

I saw it!!!!

What a sweet victory especially in that situation.

8/20/2005 12:29:33 PM

We have had some really sweet comebacks in the 9th this year. A few months ago against the Reds, the other night against the Braves I think, and then last night.

8/20/2005 2:16:59 PM

Dont know if you all saw it, but Rolen is having surgery and is done for the year.

8/21/2005 8:30:48 PM

that sucks

in other news we won again today

and this thread owns all by not being specific to the 2005 season

8/22/2005 10:13:14 PM

remember that time Jason Marquis was decent?

8/23/2005 7:42:59 PM

Only at hitting.

Doesn't matter though. Clearly our post steason rotation is Carpenter, Morris, and Mulder.

8/23/2005 10:15:23 PM

WTF Marquis??? He was good last year with 15 wins and now he has nothing. What is that 7 losses in a row? We need to call up the Reyes kid from Memphis, he looks very promising.

8/24/2005 12:07:36 AM

no
this thread is great because it is not season specific

it friggin rules because i made it when we were supposed to be the shittiest team in the nl-central

THIS THREAD MUST LIVE

8/24/2005 12:08:09 AM

Quote :

"Woodfoot WRONG! 32200 Posts user info edit post hey - Cardinals w00t i mean, second place isn't impossible.... [technically neither is first] 4/8/2004 1:30:00 AM Steven Da Nuke 3478 Posts user info edit post you guys got jason marquis "

He said we had Jason Marquis....hahahaha

well played woodfoot

8/24/2005 12:10:51 AM

Rolen

8/24/2005 12:11:28 AM

anybody going to the games this weekend in DC?

8/25/2005 9:33:09 AM

i wish

8/25/2005 9:40:57 AM

plenty of $15 tix avail
i'm prolly going to the sat day game

mulders prolly gonna start

8/25/2005 10:20:07 AM

so i was reading the recap of the game, and i saw this

Quote :

"To add to the moment Thursday, every time La Russa looked onto the field when the Pirates were hitting, he saw Rusty Kuntz coaching first base for the Pirates. Kuntz was La Russa's first center fielder in his first year of managing at Knoxville."

god i can't imagine what his childhood must have been like

[Edited on August 26, 2005 at 10:39 AM. Reason : .]

8/26/2005 10:33:04 AM

Oh yeah, La Russa is now third all-time for wins by a manager, behind John McGraw and Connie Mack

8/26/2005 11:08:29 AM

I'll be there to watch Mulder ruff up the Gnats on Saturday, maybe watch the boys on Sunday too

[Edited on August 26, 2005 at 11:26 AM. Reason : a]

8/26/2005 11:26:06 AM

Mulder got scratched from his start today with a stiff neck and now Marquis is pitching. Damn you Fox for showing the 4th place Cubs.

8/27/2005 12:34:57 PM

so from now on, anytime a pitcher is sucking, we give him shit

and hopefully his next start will be a CG 2-hitter

8/27/2005 4:13:23 PM

i know right

i fell asleep during the 6th inning
and was like "marquis is still in???" when i woke up in the 9th

8/27/2005 6:12:06 PM

Well I guess all of us Cards fans have become bored with the 14 game lead and all. Man i hope they win it this year. Carp is a candidate for Cy Young and Pujols may actually get the MVP he has prolly deserved for 4 years now.

8/31/2005 5:07:45 PM

Hey how about throwing a major league lineup out there for the Marlins?

Fucking Yadier Molina batting clean up..

8/31/2005 7:21:23 PM

ehheheheh

8/31/2005 7:22:25 PM

I will be severely pissed if this doesn't go 5 innings.

8/31/2005 8:59:01 PM

oh yeah...Redbirds putting the hurt on yet again!

9/5/2005 12:33:00 AM

It's a damn good thing we dont have to play the Cubs in the playoffs. What is the deal? Great catch by Edmonds tonite if anyone saw it.

9/8/2005 12:08:14 AM

seven more scoreless innings and another W by Carp last night

9/9/2005 10:36:03 AM

12-0 in his last 15 starts, all of them were Cardinals wins

he'd be a 25-game winner if he always got run support

9/9/2005 10:42:49 AM

well no shit. so would Dontrelle, Pedro, Clemens, Oswalt, Pettitte, etc... catch my drift?

9/9/2005 10:45:25 AM

but it's more realistic for Carp

Clemens would need 14 of his no-decisions to be reversed in order to achieve 25 wins

Carp needed 4



(and Pedro would need to be on a good team...catch my drift)

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 10:48 AM. Reason : ,]

9/9/2005 10:47:46 AM

Quote :

"he'd be a 25-game winner"

give it time my friend

9/9/2005 10:56:55 AM

^^ irrelevant. If Clemens had the run support all year that Carp has had he would have more wins. How many losses, let alone ND, has Clemens had giving up 1 or 2 ERs? I'd be willing to bet it's more then the 4 ND Carp has..

It is extremely hard to win 25 games in this day in age. Think about the greatest 7 year stretch from a pitcher in our lifetime (obviously Pedro Martinez '97-'03), maybe in baseball baseball history even. He peaked out at 23 wins. His ERA over that time was less then what Carps is this year. If he got run support he could have easily won 27 but it is just unrealistic to think that a team could do that over a 162 game season. Pedro in '99 only had 23 wins with a 2.04 ERA and a miniscule WHIP. His ERA+ was less then 1.70. He did all this on a team that was 3 wins shy of the WOrld Series..

9/9/2005 11:42:08 AM

14 IF's>>>>>4 IF's

9/9/2005 11:43:56 AM

they are NOT ifs. if clemens had the run support in each #d start that Carpenter had he would have 23 wins right now. period.

I'm not saying Carpenter doesn't deserve the Cy Young... he does. But Clemens has pitched better this year..

Roger Clemens has given up more then 2 runs THREE times this year (Pedro also did it 3 in '99). Carpenter has given up more then 2 run TEN times this year. He won 8 of those games.

V this is pointless. I am owning you left and right and you will never admit it. I'll give up... today

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 11:48 AM. Reason : f]

9/9/2005 11:45:55 AM

there's another "if"

9/9/2005 11:47:02 AM

How is it an IF. It is quantitative. Look up the numbers for yourself. It's not too hard using CNNSI.com. It took me 5 minutes.

Here is what I'm saying. Take the run support the Cardinals gave Carpenter in each numbered start (i.e.- in Start 1 the Cards scored X runs, in Start 2 they scored Y runs). Now look at how many runs the Astros gave up on starts that Clemens pitched. (if you want to you can use the Run Support stat on stats,inc but that only gives runs scored while the pitcher was in the game). It is easy to say that if he got the Run Support in each numbered start that Carpenter had then he would have 23 wins right now. This isn't hard, is it?

9/9/2005 11:53:20 AM

Seriously that has no validity whatsoever.

What does have validity, however, is everytime Carpenter needs to throw a great game (ie, he is facing a good team or better yet, a great pitcher), Carpenter goes out and throws a shutout. The same can't be said of Clemens. Carpenter shows up for big games. End of story.

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 3:26 PM. Reason : o]

9/9/2005 3:22:17 PM

Exactly...Carp hasnt lost since what May, and thats all that matters.

9/9/2005 3:24:51 PM

[Edited on September 9, 2005 at 7:20 PM. Reason : .]

9/9/2005 7:14:03 PM

i always like when girls post in here

9/10/2005 1:26:14 PM

magic number 4

9/13/2005 2:26:48 PM

Peter Gammons just picked the Cards to beat the Red Sox in the World Series. I hope he picks better than Lee Corso!

9/14/2005 12:15:53 AM

idk man, i just hope we can keep up the good play. I think we just got complacent last year after such a long season without really needing a win in the last 2 months. Lets hope it doesn't happen again.


WTF happened to carpenter tonight? 4 ER in 6 IP to the Pirates??!?!?!?!?!?!?

9/14/2005 12:19:33 AM

somebody with espn insider needs to post the story they have on Pujols and the Redbirds on espn.com frontpage

9/14/2005 10:27:57 PM

^^everybody gets hit once in a while. no way anybody can keep up that high level of pitching for a whole season.

9/14/2005 10:31:37 PM

^yeah I know, I was just taking a shot at the Pirates. They fucking won today...damnit...this is what im hoping doesnt happend when the playoffs come.


Im going to St. Louis over fall break so hopefully there will be some playoff games. That shit would be sweet the last year in Busch Stadium.

[Edited on September 14, 2005 at 10:51 PM. Reason : ]

9/14/2005 10:50:17 PM

clinched bitches

[Edited on September 16, 2005 at 12:49 AM. Reason : well, magic number 1 - we're in the playoffs]

9/16/2005 12:45:42 AM

i know right

holla

9/16/2005 3:29:42 PM

I saw this in the AP recap of an Astros-Marlins game the other day

Quote :

""Against Clemens and Pettitte, there's no way you can expect to sweep a series," Marlins manager Jack McKeon said. "Maybe the Cardinals can, but nobody else."

9/17/2005 12:11:46 PM