who said anything about a handicap? and there's no fucking way i'm going through all of our posts and picking out our past predictions. if you don't have a life and feel like doing it, go for it, but they still don't apply to our bet.

12/1/2005 9:44:09 AM

So, let me get this straight.....we're going to see who has a better track record with predictions, but first we're going to forget about your horrible track record?

Hilarious.

12/1/2005 9:48:50 AM

the bet was based on weeks 13-17 of the NFL season. apparantly you don't think you can beat me at that, so now you're trying to start me off in the hole.

12/1/2005 9:53:06 AM

No, I just think it's ridiculous that you want to try and start things at 0-0 when they're obviously NOT. Why penalize me for being right in the past and, at the same time, purge your own record of all your wrong predictions? That seems a bit convenient for you.

12/1/2005 9:56:27 AM

we made the bet on the upcoming weeks of the NFL season. if you don't think you can beat me at that, well tough shit because you already bet on it.

and here's some nice predictions from you:

Quote :

"Quote : "and there's no way the ravens finish ahead of the steelers" Reaaaaaaaaally... Wanna make a bet?"

0-1

Quote :

"UNC is NOT going to win it all this year. Illinois is much better."

0-2

Quote :

"I didn't say that, nor did I even imply. I just simply said that UNC has been overhyped and that they lost to a "cupcake." Honestly, I think both teams are just about even. They're good. We're good. Whichever is better, isn't better by much."

0-3

rallydurham:

Quote :

"We're favored by 10... I'd def take Carolina if it moves to 10.5"

Lil G:

Quote :

"State will cover the spread, and that's all that matters."

Final score, 30-24 UNC wins.
0-4

Quote :

"20-6, now shouldn't have put that $30 down on GT...."

Final score, 34-13 UNC wins.
0-5

Quote :

"For all you Panthers fans that are blinded by team loyalty and think that Carolina is going to win every week, I've got $50 that says the Chiefs win this week. So, how confident are all you chest-thumping Panthers fans that you're going to win this week? Certainly there's at least ONE of you that's fifty bucks worth of confident. Anybody? Bueller? Bueller? TreeTwista?"

panthers won that game 28-17, you lost a $20 bet to [user]TreeTwista[/user]
0-6

so there, that's at least 6 you got wrong.

our bet is only on week 13-17 of the NFL season though. make a new thread so we can keep all this shit in there instead of spread out over 5 threads. that way everyone can see it when you lose your posting abilities.

[Edited on December 1, 2005 at 10:57 AM. Reason : ]

12/1/2005 10:53:39 AM

AHAHAHA. You missed all the ones that I got RIGHT, you fucking dumbass. The reason I didn't post yours was because I couldn't fucking FIND ANY.

Tell you what, without doing all the research you just did, I'll go ahead and put down $200 right now that says I have a better track record than you.

12/1/2005 10:59:31 AM

Jesus Christ, this took less than 30 seconds to find. In one fucking post, I got more right than you could find for yourself in two hours.


From the Sports Betting thread

Quote :

"Wisconsin -7 @ Hawaii Georgia -3.5 @ Ga. Tech (4-star pick of the century) Virginia +18 @ Miami ATL -3 @ DET DEN -1.5 @ DAL"

there, i'm suddenly 5-6 and there's a shit-ton more where i was right, you little bitch

[Edited on December 1, 2005 at 11:03 AM. Reason : ]

12/1/2005 11:02:35 AM

look man, you bet me that you could pick the winners better than i could for the rest of the season. not a thing was said about either of our track records being included in that. i think you're just trying to find a way to keep your ability to post since you're a pussy and don't think you can beat me at this straight up.

here i made a thread for this shit: http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=369116

[Edited on December 1, 2005 at 11:12 AM. Reason : ]

12/1/2005 11:07:49 AM

Annnnd five more minutes produces:

3-2 in basketball on Tuesday night.

Took the Colts over your pathetic Steelers. Took the Pats over your pathetic Steelers in last year's playoffs. Took the Colts over the Pats a couple weeks ago.

Plus, you're forgetting the three bets that I WON against TreeTwista last season, dumbass.

So, we're looking at 14-8 right now, with even more shit that I know is out there.

Do you REALLY want to keep playing this game?

12/1/2005 11:13:13 AM

Did anyone watch PTI today? Kornheiser said Vick is the only person that can win a game in the NFL by himself. And to think, you morons thought I was the only person who thought that. And hell, you all must know ALOT more than he does. You have your own threads on TWW, he only has his own show on ESPN.

12/2/2005 12:55:45 AM

APPEAL TO AUTHORITY

12/2/2005 1:16:58 AM

so um... I guess that makes Tony Kornheiser the guru of all things football?



I'd rather listen to Sean Salisbury

12/2/2005 3:43:05 AM

you've got to be fucking kidding me

12/2/2005 3:54:31 AM

^^hahah please tell me thats sarcasm

that dude is bandwagon numero uno

[Edited on December 2, 2005 at 5:10 AM. Reason : and get him on the screen with a thugish type black person, watch him get nervous like a bitch]

12/2/2005 5:09:43 AM

clarify:


I'd rather listen to Sean Salisbury go on about... well, pretty much anything, than say that Sports Journalist X's opinion about something completely validates Sports Talk Poster Y's opinion about that same something

12/2/2005 5:05:46 PM

I am just saying I will take Kornheisers opinion over anybody on here. And I dont think any sports person has ever said Vick cant win a game by himself, so.........until that happens, I win.

12/3/2005 5:13:28 PM

good thing Vick beat tampa bay and green bay by himself

12/3/2005 6:27:52 PM

Vick ate Tampa Bay alive.


He cant help that Atlanta's defense is horrible this year.


It's funny how everyone claimed atlanta was winning because of their defense.... because in actuality, their defense stinks.

12/3/2005 7:46:04 PM

their defense hasn't been very good the last few weeks, but they were a huge factor in the team's success earlier in the season. hell, atlanta's defense was a big factor in my fantasy team's success earlier in the season. there's no denying that they were good for awhile, but i do agree that they have played shitty for the last few weeks.

12/4/2005 5:56:01 AM

uhhhh, wheres the official panthers thread???? Anyways, off to see the Panthers play the Falcons. Down with Vick....go Panthers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

12/4/2005 8:35:53 AM

Just wanted to bring this back to see that all the rallydurham/macgyver predictions came true - Vick had a great season, the Falcons beat the Panthers (twice), and Vick singlehandedly carried his team to the playoffs. gg guys!

1/1/2006 4:47:39 PM

Are you kidding?

Vick had a pretty strong season.


He led a horrible team (5-11 under an average QB) to an 8-8 season.


One man can only do so much in the NFL.

This isn't the NCAA where a guy like Grant Hill can carry a team to the championship

1/1/2006 5:59:08 PM

So if he went 8-8 each season for the rest of his career he would have a pretty strong career?

1/1/2006 6:12:17 PM

If we took one of the worst defenses in the league and went 8-8 every year?


Absolutely, Id call that a strong career.


If you take Palmer off the Bengals and replace him with an average QB they are a .500 team....


you cant jsut say because the Bengals won more games than the Falcons that Palmer is better than Vick (although, in this case Palmer IS better than Vick)

1/1/2006 6:37:57 PM

But I thought wins were the most important. That is all I hear from Vick fans, "There you go with stats again. They don't matter, wins do, and Vick wins ballgames."

1/1/2006 7:35:27 PM

ANd he did win ball games.


He went 8-7.

What did you want... him to win the Super Bowl singlehandedly?


You guys are used to Tecmo Super Bowl or something.


Whats his career record now like 30-16?



Kevin Garnett, Lebron James, and Kobe Bryant didnt even make the PLAYOFFS in the NBA last year.

Note that

A) Its easier to make the playoffs in the NBA

B) The NBA is more individualized than the NFL


C) Those are still three of the best players in the NBA



VIck is still a great QB and if you were to build a team he'd be one of the guys you'd love to have...

1/1/2006 7:46:37 PM

Uh...he obviously did not win enough games to lead the Falcons to the playoffs, and I thought that was the goal, to actually make it to the post-season.

And I don't want jack shit from Vick. I just don't understand you Vick fans.

[Edited on January 1, 2006 at 9:07 PM. Reason : ...]

1/1/2006 9:05:05 PM

Vick is a great athlete

he's an average NFL QB [/thread]

1/1/2006 9:06:30 PM

His team fucking blew.


How did you not notice that?


He is a good QUARTERBACK.


Not a good receiver or defensive tackle.

1/1/2006 9:09:53 PM

So when the Falcons had winning records in 02 and 04, credit was giving to Vick for the wins. However, when the team finishes 8-8 this season then the blame is shifted to everyone else on the team. So basically Vick gets credits for wins but is not responsible for losses, huh? Anything to protect the NFL's personal Jesus, right? I mean cmon, Vick was the 24th rated passer in the league behind guys like fucking Kyle Boller.

1/1/2006 9:22:51 PM

haha Ron Mexico....what a worthless person.......if only herpes was a terminal illness

1/1/2006 9:37:12 PM

^^ uh????


yeah, he gets credit for making a 5-11 team 8-8....


last year he got credit for making an 8-8 team 13-3...


its pretty simple.


Vick makes a team win more games than they would if an average QB replaced him.


Atlanta's defense was good last year and they won a lot of games.

Atlanta's defense was miserable this year and they went .500

1/1/2006 9:48:21 PM

then say the falcons' defense is the x-factor


not michael vick

2004-05 Atlanta 15  78.1 181 321 56.4 2313 154.2 7.2 14 12   120 902 60.1 7.5 3   46 266   16 7   
2005-06 Atlanta 14  74.1 199 363 54.8 2297 164.1 6.3 15 12   101 597 42.6 5.9 6   30 173   11 5

1/2/2006 12:06:02 AM

^ thanks for proving my point.


Vick still performed fairly well this season.


The difference was his defense blew donkey balls this year.

1/2/2006 9:44:03 AM

Performing "fairly well" shouldn't get you into the pro-bowl. I would say that vick was closer to "mediocre".

Unfortunately in the NFC this year, thats all it takes.

1/2/2006 5:37:00 PM

^^all that proves is that vick doesn't step his game up when the rest of the team isn't doing so well. its like he's locked into performing exactly one way or something. if he's supposed to be the man on that team then when shit isn't going right, he's supposed to elevate his game to the next level and MAKE the people around him better (or at least make them look better). he didn't do that and I'll argue that he hasn't done that.


aaron brooks and marcus vick have that same problem. must be in the familys gene pool...

[Edited on January 2, 2006 at 6:00 PM. Reason : ,]

1/2/2006 5:57:04 PM

hahaha

you just compared one of the worst starting QB's in the league to Mike Vick... give me a break.


So when Vick throws a strike into a receviers arms, and the guy inexplicably fumbles it into another man's arms... thats Vick not stepping up.

Gotcha.


Even Michael Jordan couldnt win games when his teammates werent stars.

1/2/2006 7:24:17 PM

You just compared the greatest player in NBA history to Micheal Vick... give me a break.

1/2/2006 7:41:04 PM