^ Rutgers was not yet in the B10 when Schiano coached there

11/29/2017 7:28:50 PM

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"Ur forgetting a kicker missed a chip shot fg or he would've beat natl champion Clemson last year on the road. -- And his other 5 losses last year? Like the one to 3-9 East Carolina? He's 33-30. He took over a team that went 35-28 the 5 years prior. Wouldn't that make Tom O'Brien a better candidate? "

[Edited on November 29, 2017 at 7:34 PM. Reason : vols]

11/29/2017 7:33:19 PM

you said p5

11/29/2017 7:34:49 PM

I guess Miami's titles in the 80s and 90s are null and void since they were in the Big East

11/29/2017 7:36:56 PM

https://twitter.com/FootballScoop/status/936102352599371776

11/30/2017 12:22:52 AM

wow, a tweet from 3 hours ago from "FootballScoop"

Is that HOOPS MALONE's twitter account?

11/30/2017 12:28:34 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/jgravleyWRAL/status/936099451634110465

11/30/2017 12:29:53 AM

its true. its all over the net.

-5 year deal 3-4.5 million
-state has made a last minute counter offer
-he will make a decision on thurdday

11/30/2017 12:30:35 AM

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"Multiple people have tweeted me that they’re lining up on campus in the morning to cancel their season tickets if #Vols hire Dave Doeren."

11/30/2017 1:08:14 AM

Being forced to give a raise and an extension to a coach that two school's are underwhelmed with is PEAK #NCStateShit

11/30/2017 2:25:21 AM

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"wow, a tweet from 3 hours ago from "FootballScoop""

it's a credible account...with a name that makes it sound fake.

11/30/2017 6:01:44 AM

Glad to see yall are following The Scoop!

11/30/2017 6:27:42 AM

I mean, Doeren got what he wanted...leverage.

Now he has to decide whether he wants to take the contract he was hoping to get or take the offer from UT for more money.

11/30/2017 8:13:29 AM

Don't give him that raise to get him to stay. I think he'll get that they don't want him, but his fault for holding out like he's irreplaceable and letting it get shoved in our face. He's not special.

Arizona State has a job.

11/30/2017 8:13:45 AM

I love how they want nothing to do with Doeren, but also dont realize thats Duke, Purdue, and NC State coaches who have turned you down who do you really think you are gonna get at this point?

11/30/2017 8:14:24 AM

Looks like we may be battling FSU in a coaching search.

11/30/2017 8:19:02 AM

^^ Jon Gruden, obviously

11/30/2017 8:21:16 AM

Waking up in a world where Dave is worth more than 3M/year.

11/30/2017 9:39:26 AM

he's probably a little underpaid right now, i'm less concerned about giving him a raise than i am about giving him a long contract extension. we showed some good progress this year, but if we move backwards we shouldn't be locked into an expensive buyout and at this point we still can't be certain we won't slide backwards

11/30/2017 9:44:54 AM

^Agreed.

I mean we could make a run for Greg Schiano

But other than that, these other names im hearing being thrown around for UT wouldn't come to NCSU.

[Edited on November 30, 2017 at 10:08 AM. Reason : sdf]

11/30/2017 10:07:53 AM

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"Waking up in a world where Dave is worth more than 3M/year."

that's the going rate for coaches. it sounds high and seems absurd (maybe it is absurd), but that's gonna put DD on the fringes of the top 25-30. which seems about right imo http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

11/30/2017 10:44:04 AM

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"Looks like we may be battling FSU in a coaching search."

no. we'll never battle fsu in a coaching search. they're looking at a different pool of candidates than us.

11/30/2017 10:44:52 AM

How bad does Tennessee have to be at football to make NC State over value their mediocre-ass coach?

11/30/2017 10:45:24 AM

Thanks for the memories. Been good knowing ya

11/30/2017 11:43:27 AM

^^overvalue is a bit of a stretch imo...if the reports are true, he's getting offered about $3M from state. that'd put him around 30-40 range nationally in terms of salary. probably lower than that because some private schools don't list their salaries here

http://sports.usatoday.com/ncaa/salaries/

[Edited on November 30, 2017 at 11:55 AM. Reason : tenn offering $4M+ is over paying. us paying $3M is probably about right]

11/30/2017 11:54:57 AM

Bill Cowher, next nc state football coach

11/30/2017 11:55:22 AM

So #sources say hes gone.

11/30/2017 12:00:39 PM

haven't seen any state #sources saying that but idk nothing would surprise me really

11/30/2017 12:02:15 PM

The fact that there was no statement this morning about his accepting the extension makes me think he’s gone. If he’s thinking this hard, he ain’t staying.

And I am completely fine with that.

11/30/2017 12:02:15 PM

I don't really want him to leave not necessarily because of him but just because I am not ready for another coaching search and starting over. We have some decent recruits lined up and now we may lose out on some to the cheaters down the road again for in-state competition. Sometimes slow and steady is ok.

11/30/2017 12:05:09 PM

^yeah i feel like stability and continuity are the program's best bet to continue an upward trajectory.

11/30/2017 12:06:28 PM

I agree but if we but out a good extension and he chooses to go somewhere else there is nothing we can really do. I'd rather not overspend or get stuck in a long term deal. Rather go through another search

11/30/2017 12:09:16 PM

^definitely agree. and i guess the positive, if he goes, is that any potential candidates just saw that we are/were willing to fight to keep a coach and show that long term commitment. also, we're in the top 25 currently...so it's not the job would probably look a little more attractive coming off a good season.

11/30/2017 12:13:31 PM

FAKE NEWS.

Everything you hear about this debacle is FAKE NEWS.

11/30/2017 12:15:21 PM

he’s staying

11/30/2017 12:36:57 PM

Poor UT turned down by even our mediocre coach haha

11/30/2017 12:37:45 PM

best move for both sides

11/30/2017 12:46:17 PM

He really is not a good decision maker. He should have jumped all over that UT job. He's going to be back in the Mac within the next 3 years.

#FreezingColdTakes

11/30/2017 12:46:39 PM

We should be willing to accept him leaving for Arizona State to keep from signing him another 5 years. Not worth it. He is totally capable of 5-6 wins hereout.

11/30/2017 12:47:42 PM

Breaking: Dave Doeren is staying at NC State, turns down Tennessee offer

— Joe Giglio (@jwgiglio) November 30, 2017

11/30/2017 12:52:15 PM

Hope the buyout still isnt too bad. He basically has until Debbie retires now to show sustained success.

11/30/2017 12:57:59 PM

11/30/2017 1:12:16 PM

11/30/2017 1:20:59 PM

11/30/2017 1:40:44 PM

Glad he's staying. Excited to see what he builds here moving forward.

11/30/2017 2:44:23 PM

https://twitter.com/guftyyy/status/936305202088509441

rofl

11/30/2017 3:42:36 PM

Almost a million more yearly for making the fucking Sun Bowl. Congrats coach. Guess we're all in this together.

11/30/2017 4:23:13 PM

i cant remember another time nc state actually "won" a coaching search

11/30/2017 4:38:21 PM

Quote :

"He really is not a good decision maker. He should have jumped all over that UT job. He's going to be back in the Mac within the next 3 years."

his return to the MAC would be hastened by taking the UT job.

Quote :

"Almost a million more yearly for making the fucking Sun Bowl. Congrats coach. Guess we're all in this together."

his new (reported) salary has him in the top 30-40 nationally in salaries...that seems about where he should be. coach salaries are high...he's getting paid market value.

11/30/2017 5:08:15 PM

Pretty obvious move from Dorean here to use this as leverage to get himself and his staff paid. We probably could have not done anything and he would have stayed, but I think we did the right thing. Win win

11/30/2017 7:30:46 PM