google voice is a very interesting concept. I dont think it would have much benefit for me as I do not have a home phone and I keep my work and personal contacts very seperate. But for those with multiple lines and a large contact base I could see this being helpful.

7/31/2009 10:57:43 AM

^^Hah, oops, I meant to put a snarky smile or something following "prominent bloggers", their delusions of grandeur and popularity make me chuckle

More seriously though, I believe Apple/AT&T is making a grave mistake and should allow Google Voice. I also don't approve of their "approval" process for the app store at all. But then, I also intentionally do not own an iPhone.

I do own a Pre, and life is good.

7/31/2009 11:23:17 AM

I think it'd be one thing if google voice used the data network only to make calls and was some kind of true VOIP solution..but since it basically just makes google voice call your phone then google calls the person you're trying to contact and connects you to them.. you still end up using minutes. so, that really doesn't have much way of hurting at&t at this point.

although i guess the free SMS thing could def hurt them a bit.

7/31/2009 11:35:29 AM

Someone asked a couple of pages ago if it was possible to tether to multiple computers from one phone. While I don't think it's directly possible, I did find out something today that is rather interesting. On a mac (and probably windows too, but I don't have the means to check it out) you can share an internet connection when the source is a bluetooth tether. So today, I tethered an internet connection to my mac mini, then shared that connection across ethernet to a wireless router, which I then connected to several other computers through both wired and wireless connections. I think at final count, I had 7 different devices sharing the connection being provided by the iphone.

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7/31/2009 10:16:03 PM

blllaarrhhhhggg

My iphone fell out of my pocket (there was a hole) as I was getting in my car. I realized it was gone about 10 minutes out and turned around to get it. So it ended up spending 20 minutes sitting in the parking lot enjoying the rain. I turned it off, opened it up and dried it out. Its working now but has a few problems. The rain caused part of the LCD to display brighter than the other parts. Also the ear piece doesn't work. The loud speaker and mic work fine. idk what im gonna do with it. I doubt the warranty covers rain.

:-P

[Edited on July 31, 2009 at 10:39 PM. Reason : u]

7/31/2009 10:31:24 PM

^^yea there are a few ways it can be done..but it can def be done

7/31/2009 10:43:38 PM

^^I've seen Engadget or Gizmodo posts where they talk about the fact that there's a strip which detects exposure to water. I've found them to be pretty cool in the store, so you might as well go in. Otherwise, go to http://www.ifixit.com. They have guides with tons of pics on how to repair different parts, which they sell as well.

Or, sell your phone on eBay and get another one, depending on whether you can get a new one subsidized. I've seen non-functioning phones where people have no idea what's wrong with it go for ~$100 on there.

8/1/2009 8:20:36 AM

it's getting toward the end of summer.. any word on SMS stuff yet?

8/1/2009 9:49:02 AM

^at&t is hoping that all of us forgot about mms

8/1/2009 11:27:34 AM

Quote :

"My iphone fell out of my pocket (there was a hole) as I was getting in my car. I realized it was gone about 10 minutes out and turned around to get it. So it ended up spending 20 minutes sitting in the parking lot enjoying the rain. I turned it off, opened it up and dried it out. Its working now but has a few problems. The rain caused part of the LCD to display brighter than the other parts. Also the ear piece doesn't work. The loud speaker and mic work fine. idk what im gonna do with it. I doubt the warranty covers rain."

give it a few days. I got a first gen wet once and it did crazy shit for a few weeks.

8/1/2009 12:11:20 PM

^^^^I like that link. My silent toggle switch is not working(seems like it's just missing the switch..) but it seems like that's a shit ton of trouble to go through to fix it. I'm sure I'll mess something up.

8/1/2009 3:18:20 PM

Quote :

""My iphone fell out of my pocket (there was a hole) as I was getting in my car. I realized it was gone about 10 minutes out and turned around to get it. So it ended up spending 20 minutes sitting in the parking lot enjoying the rain. I turned it off, opened it up and dried it out. Its working now but has a few problems. The rain caused part of the LCD to display brighter than the other parts. Also the ear piece doesn't work. The loud speaker and mic work fine. idk what im gonna do with it. I doubt the warranty covers rain.""

Assuming it sitting in the rain somehow didn't trip the water sensors and void your warranty, I'm pretty sure opening it up does void it. I hope it works out man My warranty got voided due to water sensors too

8/1/2009 8:39:34 PM

^^if you're still within the 1 year warranty they will replace your phone if the silent/vibrate button breaks. I took mine in 2 days ago for that very reason and walked out with a new (or refurbished) iPhone

8/2/2009 7:42:54 AM

from previous page:

Quote :

"They don't like to be drained below 25% or so and absolutely can't be drained all the way."

not that i dont want to believe you, but do you have a source for this? or some explanation. i am curious as to why this may be.

8/2/2009 10:02:19 AM

http://www.engadget.com/2009/07/31/fcc-now-inquiring-about-atandts-involvement-in-google-voices-iph/

8/2/2009 4:42:54 PM

^^google? http://barnson.org/node/1154

i once blew up an RC car lipo from over discharging it. i left it plugged into the car in storage and the load fully drained the battery. the battery puffed up super huge until it burst.

I'm not saying this will happen, it shouldnt since the iPhone should have smarter charge/discharge logic than that, but lipos have no memory and do not need to be 'exercised' like the old NiCds and NiMhs did. It was critical to totally drain and peak charge them repeatedly. NiCds didnt even come to life for a few charge/discharge cycles.

8/2/2009 6:04:57 PM

Quote :

"Standard Maintenance For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery, it’s important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Apple does not recommend leaving your portable plugged in all the time. An ideal use would be a commuter who uses her MacBook Pro on the train, then plugs it in at the office to charge. This keeps the battery juices flowing. If on the other hand, you use a desktop computer at work, and save a notebook for infrequent travel, Apple recommends charging and discharging its battery at least once per month. Need a reminder? Add an event to your desktop’s iCal."

http://www.apple.com/batteries/notebooks.html

8/2/2009 6:12:42 PM

laptop batteries aren't lipos.

8/2/2009 6:23:34 PM

if by lipo you mean lithium polymer, then some (most?) laptop batteries are most definitely lithium polymer batteries.

[Edited on August 2, 2009 at 6:45 PM. Reason : ]

8/2/2009 6:44:59 PM

are notebooks lithium ion or lipo?

[Edited on August 2, 2009 at 6:49 PM. Reason : apple's are lithium ion]

8/2/2009 6:49:30 PM

Quote :

"^^if you're still within the 1 year warranty they will replace your phone if the silent/vibrate button breaks. I took mine in 2 days ago for that very reason and walked out with a new (or refurbished) iPhone"

Wow really?? Did you take it to the apple store? I just may need to un-jailbreak and do that...

8/2/2009 9:39:46 PM

yea they'll replace it. set it back and take that shit back

8/2/2009 9:42:07 PM

laptop batteries are lithium ion

8/2/2009 9:42:25 PM

^^^ yeah that's all i did. Unjailbreak it and take it in. make sure you make an appointment though or they probably wont take you.

8/3/2009 3:52:29 AM

so i'm gonna just go ahead and ask the dumb question here...you/the article mentions laptop batteries specifically, but not iphone. so are iphone batteries the same type?

8/3/2009 9:13:26 AM

so the discoloration on the lcd is completely gone, but the earpiece still doesn't work :-P. Gonna try to take it to the apple store and see what they say.

8/3/2009 9:15:45 AM

^don't know if someone else has mentioned this, but putting your iPhone in a bag of rice helps dry it out.

Also has anyone's iPhone 3gs been crashing? It only happens maybe like once a week, but all of a sudden it'll crash and the screen with go all horizontal line distortion on me. Then I'll have to reset it and it takes an abnormally long time to start back up. Might be an issue with an app. Crashes more than my old WM phone. I guess i do use it a lot more though.

8/3/2009 10:58:53 AM

so for all of you people getting new/refurbed iPhones through warranty issues, are you taking them to the Apple store or to the AT&T store? Will AT&T even work with you on these issues?

8/3/2009 11:56:29 AM

apple store. i doubt at&t can do much of anything.

question: is there anyway or any program that makes it possible to turn the screen off while videos are playing? i've been watching some videos in the mornings for work and playing them over the radio in my car.. obviously most of the time i'm just listening and would like to be able to turn the screen off but it stops playing if yo do

any ideas?

8/3/2009 9:02:15 PM

Lock the phone and double tap the home button and hit play.

8/4/2009 1:58:23 AM

Fuck yeahh that worked great

8/4/2009 7:39:07 AM

i currently using an unlocked TMobile G1 on AT&T but can't stand not having 3G.

Will upgrading to the iphone 3gs be worth it?

8/4/2009 3:34:20 PM

duh

8/4/2009 3:40:17 PM

So the earpiece still doesn't work (didn't try the rice method but its been days). Everything else works fine. Gonna hit up the apple store on the way home. I wonder how polite they'll be in telling me im screwed?

8/4/2009 3:48:14 PM

Probably pretty polite

8/4/2009 3:52:43 PM

Can anyone help me with pairing my iPhone to my netbook? It keeps asking for a security key on both the netbook and the iPhone in XP. USB tethering works fine i just figured i'd try to get BT tethering working.

8/7/2009 5:40:06 PM

i mean, just connect them via bluetooth. nothing complicated

[Edited on August 7, 2009 at 5:48 PM. Reason : just put in the same code on both.]

8/7/2009 5:41:38 PM

^guess that's what i'm confused about. I wasn't able to connect them through BT. Each asks for the others security code. So i just make up a 4 digit one and put it into both? I thought one had a security code that you pasted into the other.

8/7/2009 8:50:12 PM

^Most bluetooth stuff that I own, the default code is 0000. Try that and see if that works.

8/7/2009 9:23:16 PM

^true

usually when i pair stuff it asks me what type of security i want to use..whether it be an auto generated key, no key or a key i make up/enter

8/7/2009 9:24:56 PM

my phone's been lagging recently..has anybody had this issue? It's freezing for a few seconds and typing a text message takes a lot longer than normal

8/8/2009 3:08:37 PM

You could try to restore it. Hook it up to iTunes and back it up, then click the Restore button under the iPhone tab.

8/8/2009 3:32:56 PM

Quote :

"^Most bluetooth stuff that I own, the default code is 0000. Try that and see if that works."

Everything I own is 1234

8/8/2009 3:38:08 PM

^^^how long has it been since you turned it off. Mine will do that if its been on for a while.

8/8/2009 4:31:59 PM

yeah i just hold the two buttons until it resets when it starts doing that shit..fixes it for a few days

8/8/2009 4:35:20 PM

Anybody upgraded a jailbroken/unlocked Iphone 3g OS 2.2 succesfully to a unlocked+jailbroken Iphone 0S 3.0 ?
Any help would be greatly appreciated

8/9/2009 6:23:22 AM

Um, all of us?

[Edited on August 9, 2009 at 8:53 AM. Reason : just upgrade to 3.0 then jailbreak it again. not complicated.]

8/9/2009 8:35:48 AM

I was told never to upgrade because it would ibrick it.
Not true?

8/9/2009 9:23:05 AM

uh, no. for a while (well, while 3.0 was in beta basically) you could not jailbreak 3.0 but as soon as the regular release came out a way to jailbreak was also released.

what i'd do to be really sure though is make a backup then restore it back to factory settings at 2.2 or whatever you said you were at. then let itunes upgrade to 3.0.1, then jailbreak again.

8/9/2009 9:25:52 AM

Anyone else been having issues with data over 3g recently (I have an iphone 3gs). Sometimes I have to reload the iphone just to get email, apps requiring data connection, etc. Just wondering if I may have an issue with my 3gs, or if its a network problem. It happens even when I have 5 bars sometimes.

8/9/2009 10:08:33 AM