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2/15/2008 10:06:46 AM

Quote :

"Big Sky Guns & Pawn - Apex Has anyone been to this place and could give their impressions? I'd like to be able to send purchases there, but I haven't heard anything about the place. "

The guy seems pretty straight forward.....kinda creepy though


PDHSC to do transfers for $25

2/16/2008 11:26:56 PM

i asked them about it the other day, they said $30. i guess it's $5 off if they like you.

Other than a lot of land, what else do I need to create my own open air range? What are the laws against it? Not within city limits and what else? I guess all counties are different?

I should just buy a place in the country. I want to be able to walk outside and shoot whenever I want.


[Edited on February 16, 2008 at 11:51 PM. Reason : can't sleep, EPA will get me.]

2/16/2008 11:38:40 PM

[Edited on February 17, 2008 at 12:26 AM. Reason : double post]

2/17/2008 12:25:52 AM

Quote :

"i asked them about it the other day, they said $30. i guess it's $5 off if they like you. "

I do have a "gold" membership with them and have bought 2 guns from them, so perhaps thats it. It has been a while since I asked them how much it would be also. I may have gone up.

Quote :

"Other than a lot of land, what else do I need to create my own open air range? What are the laws against it? Not within city limits and what else? I guess all counties are different? "

Insurance would be $Texas$ I imagine,

Quote :

"I should just buy a place in the country. I want to be able to walk outside and shoot whenever I want. "

Neighbors will still complain no matter where you are.

2/17/2008 8:35:32 PM

Just bought a UpLULA for my double stack sig.

The UpLULA seems A LOT faster to use. I thought about the HKS, but a few people (incl. Fumbler) mentioned that it wasn't much faster than handloading.

UpLULA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zos_7e-c4t0&feature=related

It better not break.

Ordered from TopGunSupply.com - flat rate shipping is great and they really seem cheaper than a lot of other places.

2/18/2008 12:58:57 AM

spent some time on saturday cleaning up the .45

didnt completely disassemble it, but took the slide off and did the best i could.

when i get the SKS back ill be cleaning that up too.

trying to go shooting either in spring hope, or sanford.

2/18/2008 10:49:31 AM

I really want an sks.
I mean they're amazing guns especially for how cheap they are.

2/18/2008 11:01:51 AM

If you buy an SKS, make sure you take the thing to complete pieces to get all the cosmoline out. This includes removing the firing pin from the bolt to make sure there's none in there, as a stiff firing pin (most don't have a spring to force it rearward) can cause an AD on a hard bolt slam.

I find that WD-40 dissolved cosmoline better than most anything, WD-40 can be removed with soap and water, and oil all the parts again with gun oil.

2/18/2008 6:10:02 PM

where to get a good sks? ak47

2/18/2008 10:30:20 PM

You can usually get them at gunshows, in '06 I paid $180 for an unissued Yugo M59/66. I know I've seen some dealers peddling their old busted Norincos for $300 at the latest Dixie Gun and Knife Classic. For both AKs and SKSs, you can try a pawn shop, I bet they have a ton of them.

2/18/2008 10:36:15 PM

yeah, we got ours a few years ago. like 4 years or so. i think for like $150.

it was a clean one. we cleaned all the cosmo out, i took that thing apart big time and cleaned it.

ive heard mineral spirits also works. but i just used wd 40, then went over the sections with gun oil.

2/18/2008 10:41:02 PM

so in the market for a 9MM, leaning towards

http://www.thegunsource.com/store/item.aspx?PID=42881

opinions? past experiences? greatly appreciated.

-kr

2/18/2008 11:20:17 PM

I love the S&W M&P.


I've heard nothing but bad things about the S&W Sigmas. They might have gotten the bugs worked out, I don't know, but the do not have a good reputation.

2/18/2008 11:41:04 PM

To clean a gun, I just spray it with break free powder blast. Non chlorinated brake cleaner. Then oil the shit out of it.

2/18/2008 11:50:26 PM

I just ordered an M&P 9mm Compact from CDNN today. They are liquidating all their S&W stuff and have a sale going on through Tuesday evening. M&P 9 or .40SW is $400. Compact is $420. Plus their is a $50 rebate + 2 free mags offer from S&W for M&P's purchased before April 1. So the grand total for the new gun + 4 mags is $402 after rebate including shipping and FFL fee. They had some good deals on revolvers too.

Here is the sale info if interested: http://advancedshooting.blogspot.com/2008/02/cdnn-sale.html

2/18/2008 11:52:45 PM

those are some really good deals. If they had a .44 mag I'd jump on it in a heartbeat.

[Edited on February 19, 2008 at 12:09 AM. Reason : post-stalkers ftw]

2/19/2008 12:07:58 AM

you missed the $250 sigma sale. i guess it was a manufacturer thing(?), but i learned about it at Gander Mtn. in mooresville.

2/19/2008 12:40:32 AM

^^^ I hate that I'm missing that sale. I've decided to get the M&P .40 but my permit wont be ready until next week most likely

[Edited on February 19, 2008 at 10:04 AM. Reason : .]

2/19/2008 10:04:30 AM

HKP7 PSP's are on sale for $579 shipped to your FFL.

I just ordered one. tis' gonna be my CCW gun.

[Edited on February 19, 2008 at 1:03 PM. Reason : pretty much the best deal ever for that pistol.]

2/19/2008 1:02:17 PM

^ Holy shit. Where is that?

This is an actual gun:


Saw this a few weeks ago and then saw a piece on CNN today about cops being pissed about Jim's Gun Supply custom refinishing guns in whatever colors that you want. They're worried about guns that look like toys.

I've always wondered about just painting the tip of the barrel orange and claiming that its a high end metal airsoft gun.

2/19/2008 6:27:41 PM

my question is why isn't it the same color combo as the one the cat has....

other than that... other than some rifles I'll be inheriting (Springfield, Mauser, and ??? ill have to ask again) what would you guys recommend? SKS? (i have to admit those things are sweet)

2/19/2008 8:08:39 PM

The S&W Sigma isn't bad.
It's not great, but not bad.
The triggers are horribly heavy, long, and mushy, but they will go bang every time and won't fall apart.
If anyone ever gets one, then make sure it is one of the "enhanced" models designated with the "VE" in the model name (S&W Sigma 9VE).

$250 is an okay price for a Sigma. If you buy a S&W AR then you can get a Sigma for $100.

[Edited on February 19, 2008 at 9:17 PM. Reason : BTW I wish I had monies. Always wanted an M&P and that's a hell of a deal ]

2/19/2008 9:16:31 PM

hmmm i wonder if a auto-clave would work in getting rid of it....

2/19/2008 10:41:26 PM

Sigforum.com group buy.

It's good till friday guaranteed.

http://sigforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/350601935/m/9161020711/p/1

I had been able to handle a P7 the other day and it's great. The grip cocking is very important. So I started saving up and looking for good deals. Who knew that a forum that's all about Sig's would have a HK group buy? I wish I could get one in a higher capacity, but whatever, it's good for what it is.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 12:46 AM. Reason : It was either a P7 or a P30. I made my decision.]

2/20/2008 12:21:34 AM

damn that's tempting...

2/20/2008 10:18:31 AM

Jim's Gun Shop. He's a really nice guy. He tried to find it cheaper, said he couldn't and that it was a heckuva deal.

Smooth process all together. Will do business again.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 12:57 PM. Reason : gf]

2/20/2008 12:57:28 PM

I realize why JCASHFAN loves the p239. Nice pistol. Very compact.

2/21/2008 12:32:09 AM

I've shot a few 239s, and I liked them but I've only owned a P229 which I did like a lot.

I got to mess around with but not shoot a P250 recently. If I hadn't commited myself to a different gun recently, I'd be buying that in a heartbeat. I'm pretty sure, if SIG ever comes out with a striker-fired gun, I'll be close to the first in line to pick that up.

2/21/2008 2:51:59 AM

I do love my P239/.357 SIG. The Hogue grips and Trijicon's make it even better. By far my favorite pistol to shoot.

2/21/2008 11:09:37 AM

does anyone know of a good place in charlotte to get a concealed carry permit? i stopped by a gun range near my house today, and since i'm an inexperienced shooter they recommended that i take a $75 basic safety course before i took a $120 conceal carry course for the permit. does this sound normal to you guys or are they just trying to fleece suckers? also, is it even possible/recommended to get a conceal carry permit with only a basic knowledge and experience with guns?

2/21/2008 3:24:34 PM

^ If you've shot a gun before you should be fine.

When I took my CCW class for Wake County there was a flight attendant who had never fired a gun before but managed to pass the range test with a .32 revolver. I think that about half of her bullets hit the target from 21 feet out.

2/21/2008 5:52:55 PM

Quote :

"I've shot a few 239s, and I liked them but I've only owned a P229 which I did like a lot."

sorry man, i meant gk2004. must have been smoking crack.
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I was at the range Wed and shot from 5, 7, 10, 15 yds. Of course as a novice, my aim was progressively worse as the distance increased, but I'm reasonably sure that it's partly the result of the thick wood grips that came on my pistol. I look forward to the next range trip where I can test the thinner plastic grips I just installed. I love my sig.

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I'll never buy blazer brass in 9mm again. I just picked up a box of 9mm from wal-mart and two were defective, the others had dull cases and rough bullets. The box of WWB of the same caliber had shiny brass and smooth surface bullets. I'm all for american made, but Blazer Brass should be ashamed.

[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 8:04 PM. Reason : Now I realize why WWB is a couple bucks more.]

2/21/2008 7:57:20 PM

i don't buy blazer anymore, it was way dirty the last time i shot it in my 9mm... with that said i shoot primarily winchester or remington at the range

we're probably going to be taking a CCW class here within the next few months but definitely before summer. Has anybody taken it at the Wake County Range and can compare it with the one at PDHSC?

2/21/2008 10:45:34 PM

wow has anyone read what you have to do to get a Pistol Purchase Permit in Orange County?!

You have to have lived there a year, only 2 at a time, DWI disqualifies you, 30 day wait period, your application must be notarized and to top it all off, 3 notarized non-family references who must sign affidavits as to your good character!


Wake seems like a cakewalk.

2/22/2008 1:25:53 AM

^yeah, apparently the purchase permit is just an old jim crow law that nc passed to give county sheriff's complete and arbitrary control over who was able to purchase guns.

2/22/2008 7:16:49 AM

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"It was either a P7 or a P30. I made my decision."

Seotaji, do you shoot at PDHSC? I would love to shoot the P7 someday if its cool. I have a P30 and M&P Compact you can shoot.

2/22/2008 6:20:08 PM

yeah man, you can shoot it. i've wanted to shoot both those guns for a while. i primarily shoot at eagle1, just b/c it's a lot closer.

Quote :

"i don't buy blazer anymore, it was way dirty the last time i shot it in my 9mm..."

i wish i had known that before wasting my money. the .40s&w box that i bought had decent looking bullets, but the 9mm was something else entirely. i'm now not looking forward to the extra cleaning i'll have to do.

[Edited on February 23, 2008 at 12:23 AM. Reason : wh]

2/23/2008 12:22:02 AM

so quick Q.

say i leave my pistol at a friends house, who cannot get his permit because of a pending traffic stuff.

say someone breaks in and he used the gun on them in the most legal way.


am i still safe?

2/23/2008 9:24:37 PM

no, b/c they "the police" could/would cite you & said friend for breaking the law.

what exactly is the "most legal way"? other than hitting the assailant with it.

2/23/2008 10:06:06 PM

self defense

2/23/2008 10:08:00 PM

yeah, but they aren't allowed to possessssss a pistol without a valid permit. that in itself is illegal. they don't live with you and had no reason to have your gun. you and your friend would be cited/arrested.

hell a court could convict you of buying a gun for someone else. another offense entirely.

[Edited on February 23, 2008 at 10:26 PM. Reason : eh]

2/23/2008 10:25:12 PM

Yeah, you'd have to tell the court that your friend stole the gun from you to be off the hook. Then he'll be put away for at least 10 years

2/23/2008 10:48:32 PM

turns out he has a Browning break apart 22 rifle, the other is a 30 cal Mauser...

but yeah, .22 rifle will be first shoot that a lot some then get a bolt action NATO round rifle... (7.67) and a SKS (less kick)....

2/23/2008 11:14:04 PM

My new addition

Went and shot it today and had zero complaints. Really loved the trigger pull and the interchangeable backstraps (grips) make it really comfortable to hold




[Edited on February 23, 2008 at 11:18 PM. Reason : pic]

2/23/2008 11:17:23 PM

went shooting today...ran 100 rds through my 1911

also shot a SIG P226, a Beretta .45, and a Makarov (all belonging to other people)


then put about 10 rounds through my Remington 700 (7mm REM)

then about 25 rounds through my Marlin 882SSV (.22 WMR)

2/24/2008 12:02:19 AM

Lobes85, the m&p 40 is nice. I tried one the other day. The $50 rebate and the 2 free mags are just icing on the cake. I still want a HK .40 that looks exactly like a P30.

2/24/2008 12:56:12 AM

Quote :

"yeah, but they aren't allowed to possessssss a pistol without a valid permit"

There's no permit for possession, only concealed handgun licenses and purchasing permits.

If the friend lawfully shot an intruder then it would probably stop at that.

The worst case scenario would be the intruder's family filing a wrongful dealth lawsuit, in which case the family'a attorney would most likely try to find out how the friend got a hold of the gun.
Best case scenario after that would be the jury understood that the gun was simply left at the friend's house. Worst case scenario would be the jury determined a pistol transaction occured without a purchasing permit.

2/24/2008 1:28:51 PM

word.

2/24/2008 3:13:46 PM

Quote :

"what exactly is the "most legal way"? other than hitting the assailant with it."

the most legal way is while they are in the act of breaking in.

once they are inside they have to be posing a threat for you to shoot them.

2/24/2008 3:30:52 PM