Been banging on Deepsek 4 Flash for the past few weeks but finally jumped over to GLM 5.2.

But I'm thinking about OpenAI Terra and wondering if I'll ever get to try Fable 5.

6/28/2026 5:52:29 PM

Did a bunch of experiments building Powerpoint decks with Sonnet, GPT5.5, GLM 5.2, Grok, and Deepseek. Grok cost me $10 because it got stuck in a loop when it couldn't git push and the quality was bad too. GLM 5.2 was totally acceptable qualtiy.

6/28/2026 7:57:51 PM

I spend most of my time these days in Codex. i've been using more of my long neglected GPT-5.3-Codex-Spark quota the last few days. it's quick and good for when I need to do rapidfire small fixes and tweaks. sama says we're gonna get 750 tok/s on Sol next month. that's gonna be fun

I also use OpenCode free tier sometimes and have had good results with DeepSeek v4 flash. MiMo v2.5 also was pretty good at getting the job done.

6/28/2026 9:30:09 PM

for work we are a heavy claude code shop - mostly 4.8 opus high or sonnet 4.6 high but highly task dependent

we're on a 2-month free codex trial with unlimited tokens which is impossible to ignore - so far I highly prefer claude code but to be fair that's where i've been living so i'm more comfortable there

personally I tend to bounce between chatgpt auto for general questions and grok for anything that needs real-time info

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"wondering if I'll ever get to try Fable 5"

we used it for the short amount of time it was available for teams customers - it found quite a number of interesting security-related findings when we had it do some sweeps that we've been following up on - would love to have access back to see what else we've missed

6/29/2026 10:24:15 AM

^ We're also a Claude shop, so I reach for Opus by default, but I've found myself trusting its outputs less and less as the months go by. I use Codex to red-team nearly everything Opus produces to try and close that gap.

But Claudio feels like my buddy, so I'm not gonna put it out to pasture just yet.


I will say, however, it's gotten nearly unbearable to use with how it speaks - pure unfettered inside baseball gibberish. I probably tell it "speak like a normal fucking human being" at least 3-5x a day. I heard Fable was even worse about this.

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"Grok cost me $10 because it got stuck in a loop"

I've never once been impressed with anything from Grok, and I'm disappointed that SpaceXFirstSolarTeslaScamoftheCenturyCorp swept up Cursor into their fold. Dogshit company, dogshit products.

[Edited on June 29, 2026 at 1:52 PM. Reason : .]

6/29/2026 1:47:52 PM

https://opencode.ai/data

interesting data. cool of them to publish it

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"and grok for anything that needs real-time info"

me too. the models themselves aren't particularly impressive (although given the level of investment I won't be too too surprised to see them leap ahead for a minute or two at some point(s) over the next few years) but the integration with Twitter, which remains for better or for worse a key (the best?) source of realtime conversation online especially for certain topics, is compelling. but it won't be the only game in town much longer, I reckon

[Edited on June 30, 2026 at 2:05 AM. Reason : tokens]

6/30/2026 2:05:31 AM

Old TWW would have started the obvious posts by now.

7/1/2026 1:08:04 PM

bro i am so horny for models

[Edited on July 1, 2026 at 11:48 PM. Reason : TACB]

7/1/2026 11:48:28 PM

i have suckled from the sweet Fable 5 teet and I dont know how I’ll ever work without it



also Sonnet 5 is pretty great, yaps less than Opus, already a good player IMO

7/2/2026 4:20:42 PM

before long you'll scoff at the idea of using such an underpowered model



[Edited on July 2, 2026 at 8:30 PM. Reason : see y'all in 2050]

7/2/2026 8:30:26 PM

I asked Fable to build me some skills based on my prior sessions with other models. They were pretty dope.

Then, I asked it to build me a way to force Opus-level models to work with me the same way I had been working with Fable, since I was losing access.

That plugin is driving all kinds of performance lift for me atm. I know the rage is to say "move from in the loop to on the loop," but this elevated me out of the critical path; it's dope as hell.

[Edited on July 7, 2026 at 4:23 PM. Reason : now I need to port it to Hermes]

7/7/2026 4:22:38 PM

I understood a few words in that post!

7/7/2026 6:02:11 PM

Lol this is the new music thread

7/9/2026 1:13:48 AM

I know what you are suggesting there, but not really.

7/9/2026 5:49:35 AM

How so?

7/9/2026 10:59:56 AM

Because I don't disrespect these people. It's just a different world entirely.

That, and I'm not trolling -- I just have nothing of value to add to the discussion.

7/9/2026 7:38:39 PM

A former TWW'r friend ran Fable for 12 hours and ended up with a product he is selling for $120k. It's a giant Kanban board that does logistics for trucks. It has automated flows, "truck dropped load at client" and auto dispatches them to get a new load. People can move the cards around if something needs to change.

He's been singing its praises. I didn't get to do much fun with it. I had Hermes watch my brisket cook overnight. I'm running OpenAI models since they allow agents.

[Edited on July 12, 2026 at 7:54 AM. Reason : A]

7/12/2026 7:53:19 AM

^ It's still around; Anthropic's doing some weird edge-marketing around it, where they keep saying they're gonna take it away and then extend it by a few more days. It's pretty fuckin wack, but whatever, Fable is still good.


Apparently "Grok Build" is uploading folks env vars and whatnot to their cloud. Huge surprise. You gotta be a real stupid mf to trust Elmo.

7/13/2026 12:40:36 PM

New Kimi is supposed to exceed fable level?

Side note if anybody has a lead on roles holla @ your boy, my position unexpectedly got eliminated because of budget constraints today.

7/17/2026 5:11:48 PM