in many places, car free cities are still decases away but these can do the trick for high profie soft targets

they should be at every major pedestrian areaby now and a a cheap, non intrusive solution

8/17/2017 1:11:14 PM

Had the police not stood down, there would have been barricades in Cville.

They knew that protest was going to happen for a long time. There was a federal hearing to allow the thing. According to the event organizer, police were to setup barricades at 11:30 but didn't show. When they did show an hour later, they shut down the event. Afterward BLM took to the streets. In fact, there was so little police presence that it took about 5 min for them to arrive on scene after the car came. That sounds very suspicious.

In this vid, the car plows in at around 2:30. First cops show around 6:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9nwl6qTdPs

8/17/2017 1:37:01 PM

Bollards can prevent vehicles from passing? You don't say!

8/17/2017 1:39:13 PM

neither cheap nor practical.

8/17/2017 1:43:11 PM

I thought this was about Barcelona.

RIP

8/17/2017 2:09:51 PM

cities are already putting up bollards (although usually less expensive kinds than what is shown here), and state and federal property started adding vehicle protection after 9/11

in raleigh we use planters on fayetteville st and park city vehicles at the ends of the mall for large gatherings

bollards would not have helped in charlottesville, that attack was on a public street and not a pedestrian area

[Edited on August 17, 2017 at 2:10 PM. Reason : .]

8/17/2017 2:10:09 PM

Ban cars.

8/17/2017 2:25:15 PM

you may have meant that as a joke but banning cars is actually a great idea and preventing attacks is low on the long list of reasons why
http://www.businessinsider.com/cities-going-car-free-ban-2017-8

8/17/2017 2:32:31 PM

Legalize the carrying of concealed bollards.

8/17/2017 3:00:58 PM

^ I think bollets (or bullards?) would be better as they can be used to stop car attacks as well as fire with a gun

8/17/2017 3:04:22 PM

Now who's the real victim, can you answer that?
The nigga that's jackin, or the fool gettin' jacked

8/17/2017 3:35:09 PM

maybe stop killing people for global economic reasons to prevent retaliation

8/17/2017 7:49:20 PM

those reacting bollards aint cheap. cool though

8/17/2017 8:07:49 PM

8/17/2017 8:15:52 PM

raise gas prices

8/17/2017 9:11:44 PM

2 people saying they arent cheap yet givimg no examples of less costly alternatives.

8/18/2017 5:54:20 AM

basic folding bollards are way less expensive, removable bollards that fit into sockets are a bit less expensive

8/18/2017 9:01:21 AM

Quote :

"maybe stop killing people for global economic reasons to prevent retaliation"

Agreed. That's totally what caused the Charlottesville car attack.

8/18/2017 9:36:27 AM

build a wall

8/18/2017 9:37:58 AM

and make the terrorists pay for it

8/18/2017 9:39:34 AM

I know this is an Earl thread....

But you can't. Anyone who wants to run people down with their car could go do it right now.

8/18/2017 12:54:46 PM

well they can do it on streets but im talkimg about stopping them from high volume pedestrian areas like in nice and barcelona

8/19/2017 6:47:45 AM

if every man, woman, and child had their own car this wouldn't happen

[Edited on August 19, 2017 at 9:37 AM. Reason : deregulate driving]

8/19/2017 9:36:46 AM

I have two cars. I am ultra protected.

8/19/2017 9:39:34 AM

/thread

8/19/2017 10:08:30 AM

Barrel Monster will save us all!

8/19/2017 1:14:26 PM

I know this is a joke thread, but you can contact your local state reps: Justin Burr and Chris Millis who are trying to pass unnecessary legislation that encourages this type of attack:

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/state-politics/article167100452.html

https://theintercept.com/2017/08/14/backed-by-police-unions-legislators-standby-laws-to-protect-drivers-who-kill-protesters/


Justin Burr:

N.C. House of Representatives
300 N Salisbury Street, Room 307A
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
919-733-5908
Justin.Burr@ncleg.net
@RepJustinBurr


Chris Millis
N.C. House of Representatives
300 N Salisbury Street, Room 633
Raleigh, NC 27603-5925
919-715-9664
Chris.Millis@ncleg.net
@RepMillis

8/19/2017 7:02:22 PM

Also, I think it's a sad day on tww when nobody recognizes Warren G lyrics.

8/19/2017 7:09:27 PM

its not a joke. its literally impossible for vehicles to move through these things.

8/19/2017 7:46:03 PM

Those are not my local state representatives. In fact, they aren't even from my state of residence.

8/19/2017 8:25:39 PM

if someone didnt stand in the road they would be less likely to be hit by a car i suspect

8/19/2017 11:14:26 PM

also cars should have an automatic 5 minute shutoff adter a crash.

10/31/2017 4:25:48 PM

^Especially when a murderer is after you

10/31/2017 4:30:57 PM

home depot not going to give this guy his deposit back i bet

10/31/2017 4:55:13 PM

^^ Every solution has a wild trolley-problem excuse

they have the barriers at time square but needed them on the bike path. If I was in charge, I would have made sure these were in place all over the city back in August when I made this thread. This attack was preventable.

[Edited on October 31, 2017 at 8:30 PM. Reason : pull the fucking lever]

10/31/2017 8:28:10 PM

Yeah so this happened directly outside of my office. I guarantee you that these things are *everywhere*

https://www.google.com/maps/@40.713866,-74.0141837,3a,75y,29.92h,85.1t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sQVqIPHcuHCeyquFT7-TQ7Q!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo3.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DQVqIPHcuHCeyquFT7-TQ7Q%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D61.868393%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

10/31/2017 8:40:49 PM

Quesion: Do you know if those are financed by the city or the buildings that they are in front of?

10/31/2017 9:07:33 PM

It's a mixture. Some barricades, particularly around 1WTC and Wall street are definitely city maintained. This particular greenway is a popular bike path that runs parallel to West Street/West Side Highway and in general is pretty well protected. I'm generally aware that when I'm getting ready to cross the street I'm always mindful to stand behind the bollards or stanchions or whatever is there. That being said the ones in my example above are probably private.

10/31/2017 10:31:42 PM

did earl just recently learn about the trolley thing?

11/1/2017 11:39:14 AM

It's so obvious there were two drivers. Why is the MSM trying to cover this up?

11/1/2017 12:31:41 PM

why haven't they released time-coded video from security cameras

11/1/2017 12:35:36 PM

I've been obsessed with ethical dilemmas and thought experiments since psychology at state. It probably has a lot to do with why I am such a free thinker who doesn't follow a herd.

Recently, I've come across trolley problem memes and it made me think about how the trolley problem could be used as a tool in today's polarized political climate. The problem is that most people on both sides can't understand the other side and breaking it down to a trolley problem can help people see the other side. Its funny he brings it up, because people like dtownral immediately come to mind when I think about people who can't fathom the other side. I'm an educator so anytime I see a tool that can help people understand things, I adopt it.

Anytime you bring up solutions to problems, people immediately dismiss them because of the one, rare circumstance that will inevitably cause the solution to make the problem worse.

Trumpism (in the minds of trump voters)
Ending the war on drugs
Legalizing drugs
Security measures
Ending wars
Housing first programs for the homeless
Social welfare in general
Taking guns from the population
Taking guns from beat cops
Abortion
Early sex ed
Rehabilitation instead of punishment

These are all amazing solutions that would save/enhance so many lives but people immediately dismiss them because of the anticipated inevitable sacrifice involved.

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 12:45 PM. Reason : woah]

11/1/2017 12:45:26 PM

oh, you learned it from a meme

that makes a lot of sense actually

11/1/2017 12:58:56 PM

i dont think memes existed when i learned it in 06.

memes do open my eyes to the way a lot of people think though. the notion that you cant learn anything from a meme is exactly what i would expect from a closed minded individual. take this meme as an example


this meme taught me that we've been taking the wrong approach in vaccine debate and havent done a good enough job teaching the other side about people who cant be vaccinated and how those people depend on herd immunity.

11/1/2017 1:30:32 PM

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 1:41 PM. Reason : ]

11/1/2017 1:40:58 PM

11/1/2017 1:46:24 PM

Wonder if Earl is aware kids whose parents choose not to vaccinate their children can and do come into contact with those who are not the appropriate age for all vaccines.

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 1:49 PM. Reason : But no one is talking about those who have medical reasons not to]

11/1/2017 1:48:28 PM

thats what my post was about

11/1/2017 4:16:17 PM

I misread it. My bad.

Also, relevant to this thread, I just saw Gillibrand just introduced some legislation about barriers that will surely not pass..

[Edited on November 1, 2017 at 4:18 PM. Reason : X]

11/1/2017 4:17:15 PM

https://www-m.cnn.com/2018/06/02/us/maine-woman-drives-car-on-ball-field/index.html

6/3/2018 12:17:33 PM