and will admit to it?

5/8/2016 11:54:10 AM

#feelthejohnson

5/8/2016 12:25:25 PM

BigMan157

5/8/2016 12:27:26 PM

I'm voting for Trump. I don't know that I am a big fan of any of the circus clowns who ran this time, but the one person I really don't want in the White House is Sanders and it looks like we won't have to worry about that (Thank God). We need some fresh blood in Washington anyway. With all that being said, I don't think Trump is quite the train wreck people make him out to be, he just speaks the truth, but PC American has declared he is racist for it.

We need to shut down our southern border and quit letting the people from Latin America come here illegally. You shouldn't get an American citizenship just for being born on this side of the border. The illegals have undercut a lot of people in the construction industry and other fields. They are a burden on the health system and other welfare programs. I don't know if Trump will do anything about it, but he sounds more serious about it than the other clowns who have previously been in the oval office.

Obamacare is a joke and it sounds like he wants to get rid of that. Something needs to change with that. Healthcare costs have only gone up, not down.

The terrorists causing trouble in today's world are Muslims. Don't fool yourself, it isn't the IRA. I'm cool with shutting down travel from Muslim states to the USA to some degree.

Also, it was anti-Trump crowds protesting at his rallies. There would have been no violence, if they had stayed away. A black man who supported Trump knocked out a white guy carrying an anti-Trump rebel flag that was wearing a KKK robe. What do you expect to happen in that situation? The people supporting Trump, Rubio, Cruz, etc didn't charge the stage at rallies for Clinton, or Sanders. For the most part, supporters of the Republican candidates behaved themselves.

5/8/2016 2:00:41 PM

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"You shouldn't get an American citizenship just for being born on this side of the border. "

That's how you got American citizenship

5/8/2016 2:04:29 PM

^My parents were from the US, not Honduras, Mexico, Panama, etc.

5/8/2016 2:10:13 PM

^ Can your parents say that about their parents? What about your grandparents? Great grandparents?

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"The terrorists causing trouble in today's world are Muslims. Don't fool yourself, it isn't the IRA. I'm cool with shutting down travel from Muslim states to the USA to some degree. "

5/8/2016 2:25:09 PM

Although it was obvious Big4 was a closet racist in years past, at least it's out in the open now. Thank god there is little chance of him procreating.

5/8/2016 2:35:21 PM

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" Can your parents say that about their parents? What about your grandparents? Great grandparents?"

OMG! 200+ years ago people came here and they weren't Americans. Two wrongs don't make a right. Lock the borders!

5/8/2016 3:24:13 PM

Welp.

5/8/2016 4:13:17 PM

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"Obamacare is a joke"

How so?

5/8/2016 4:45:13 PM

I just can't with this

5/8/2016 4:46:37 PM

I just always assumed B4C was a troll because a college educated individual can't possibly be that racist and stupid.

5/8/2016 4:48:27 PM

^^^Tell me where all of the savings are for everyone? I got fined because I was without insurance for 5 months when I was laid off. Pre-Obamacare I wouldn't have been fined for doing that. Plenty of people I know have only had their rates go up not down. Where are all of the savings?

5/8/2016 6:08:26 PM

I'll take an immigrant any day over someone that complains every day about their shitty auto parts job

5/8/2016 6:09:47 PM

If I was voting I might go for Trump over Clinton because at least he's more transparent with how shitty he is

they're the same goddamn person

5/8/2016 6:16:53 PM

anyone who takes off the blinders should be able to realise obamacare is a joke

low income people are better off choosing the fine than buying insurance. instead of taking on the insurance industry, obamacare negotiated with it and forced the whole country to become its lifetime customers.

5/8/2016 6:52:15 PM

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"Tell me where all of the savings are for everyone?"

Free birth control.

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"I got fined because I was without insurance for 5 months when I was laid off."

You're the same type of person who'd be bitching about his appendix bursting and owing $50,000 to some Dr. b/c you didn't have insurance.

5/8/2016 6:52:27 PM

^But people's premiums have skyrocketed. My sister can't even afford the monthly premiums offered in Obamacare. The best plan she could find was over $800 a month with an 8,000 dollar deductible. That's not cheaper. A married couple I know who runs their own business went from $300 to over $1,000 a month with a $10,000 deductible for their plan under Obamacare.

As for me, not having insurance for 5 months was a risk I took and I wouldn't have complained, if something happened, I would have just paid the bill for the rest of my life.

5/8/2016 7:35:18 PM

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/oct/25/donald-trump/trump-obamacare-health-care-premiums-going-35-45-5/

5/8/2016 7:57:19 PM

Eh, I pay ~$100 a month at my job. Def something I looked for when applying to companies.

Do you feel the same way about automobile insurance?

5/8/2016 7:57:36 PM

^^4.4% is still an increase and some have had higher rat increases. Like I said, Obamacare is a joke.

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"I'll take an immigrant any day over someone that complains every day about their shitty auto parts job"

If we're in a situation like that in the future then you are more than welcome to hire an immigrant from central America and I won't be upset as long as they are here legally. We just need to keep the illegals out! There is nothing racist about that at all.

5/8/2016 8:15:32 PM

^^I'm not going to get into the ACA debate, but I will say that I can't stand it when people use car insurance as their example. You aren't required to have auto insurance by virtue of being born. You can choose not to drive.

5/8/2016 8:31:47 PM

^ yep, and you're also only required to have liability insurance in case you fuck someone else up.

That said, I'm OK with the individual mandate as a least-bad option. The employer mandate is stupid, and the law goes about things in a wrong way and largely missed the point.


Also, fuck you if you actually like Trump. I automatically pass judgment on your intellect, judgment, and as a human being in general, and feel quite comfortable doing so.

5/8/2016 8:41:30 PM

humans do not have a right to health care services

5/8/2016 8:50:34 PM

what DO humans have a right to?

http://www.un.org/en/universal-declaration-human-rights/

[Edited on May 8, 2016 at 9:10 PM. Reason : a]

5/8/2016 9:07:21 PM

life, liberty and the pursuit of hap-penis, or something

my BCBSNC policy was originally gonna go up about 300% until i called them and bitched. Who wouldn't be a little perturbed about that type of increase?

5/8/2016 9:12:09 PM

negative rights like life (the right to not be killed by someone else), freedom of movement, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, a fair trial, etc.

humans do no have rights to positive rights, rights that would require someone else to act to fulfill that right. healthcare, education, housing, etc.

[Edited on May 8, 2016 at 9:14 PM. Reason : ^^fuck the UN]

[Edited on May 8, 2016 at 9:15 PM. Reason : i know it'd hard to wrap your head around, but think about it]

[Edited on May 8, 2016 at 9:16 PM. Reason : the right to healthcare essentially conscripts physicians. wtf mate?]

5/8/2016 9:13:54 PM

B4C is really stupid.

5/8/2016 9:55:18 PM

My line of thinking is this: How much would Donald Trump have to personally write me a check for in order for me to vote for him?

I'm hovering between 8-16 grand.

5/8/2016 10:04:40 PM

27 dollars

5/8/2016 10:15:47 PM

This is a horrible question to answer. There is no good option for 2016. I don't want to throw my vote away on Johnson, because let's face it, he doesn't have a chance. Trump's foreign policy and trade ideas will end up being a nightmare, and we don't really know who he is politically, and Hillary will just end up being more of the same.

I'm leaning more toward the devil that I know.

5/8/2016 10:48:30 PM

:munching on hypothetical popcorn:

5/8/2016 10:53:03 PM

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"I don't want to throw my vote away on Johnson"

It's not a vote thrown away. It's a message to the other parties, primarily the GOP, that they need to start trying to get some votes from folks who are socially liberal and fiscally conservative. Imagine what the GOP would do next time around if they lost this election because a candidate running on the principles of liberty pulled 10% of the popular vote.

5/8/2016 10:57:15 PM

Why does the lesser of two evils become even worse every 4 years?

Fucking entropy.

5/8/2016 11:08:57 PM

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"I don't want to throw my vote away on Johnson"

Who the fuck is Johnson?

5/8/2016 11:24:23 PM

he'll be on the ballot in all 50 states

5/8/2016 11:29:24 PM

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"If I was voting I might go for Trump over Clinton because at least he's more transparent with how shitty he is they're the same goddamn person "

This is bullshit. The same kind of thinking got us Bush. The chain reaction of bad things that could be unleashed by either candidate are wildly different. Hillary is a run of the mill politician, she'll stay within the lines.

Trump is mentally unstable, and will push the country against the bounds of stability.

5/8/2016 11:41:27 PM

This is bullshit. The same kind of thinking got us Clinton. The chain reaction of bad things that could be unleashed by either candidate are wildly different. McCain is a run of the mill politician, he'll stay within the lines.

Obama is mentally unstable, and will push the country against the bounds of stability.

[Edited on May 8, 2016 at 11:57 PM. Reason : #willfulignorance #sameshit]

5/8/2016 11:57:02 PM

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"This is bullshit. The same kind of thinking got us Bush. The chain reaction of bad things that could be unleashed by either candidate are wildly different. Hillary is a run of the mill politician, she'll stay within the lines."

This, and it really is as simple as that.

5/9/2016 12:36:04 AM

^^^I hear ya, but the chain reaction has already begun. The interesting times are now.

If Lewinsky had never talked to Linda Tripp, or if those old people in Florida had a little more upper body strength to actually punch out those stupid chads, we woulda had a boring Gore presidency. Or maybe McCain coulda played just a little dirtier, and we wouldn't have had Rove's Bush bumbling his way through a terribly difficult decade.

And they shoulda gleefully continued accepting donations from Wall Street, but Clinton and Co. could have at least kept half an eye on them before we all got robbed.

Genuine outsider, Sarah Palin, should never have been a thing--she's a total buffoon whose impact has been enormous. Whoever was behind the Palin idea should be ashamed of themselves. And, while a black presidency is pretty awesome, I suspect a white version of Obama would have calmed the Tea Partiers better. And folks should have taken a short break from their Obama celebrations to go vote in 2010...cause a bunch of bitter racists who probably hadn't voted with any regularity saw Obama get inaugurated and decided to take the country back! by electing a bunch of random idiot lunatics.

And y'all remember that nasty senator who made everybody sign the agreement that they wouldn't be friendly across party lines? What was his name? Holy shit, what an asshole.


We got ISIS. Some states now have just one clinic that is able to provide abortions. The city of New Orleans no longer has a single traditional public school, and other cities are on the path to joining them. We've seen weeks of race riots. In addition to having no direction on the broader environment, we apparently can't even handle the provision of clean drinking water anymore. And Donald Trump sauntered to the nomination without even having to disavow support from the KKK.

The rich white dudes were supposed to meet up in the boardroom to secretly run the world, but I think they went on strike or something.

[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 1:06 AM. Reason : It's crazy out there.]

5/9/2016 1:04:52 AM

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"Why does the lesser of two evils become even worse every 4 years?"

because people refuse to hold them accountable and oblige themselves to vote for one of the two no matter how bad they get.

5/9/2016 1:24:03 AM

you commies do not want the country to be great again?

5/9/2016 2:44:53 AM

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"But people's premiums have skyrocketed."

Mine are down 65%, FWIW.

5/9/2016 3:37:32 AM

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"In fact, a similar anger exists within segments of the white community. Most working- and middle-class white Americans don't feel that they have been particularly privileged by their race. Their experience is the immigrant experience - as far as they're concerned, no one's handed them anything, they've built it from scratch. They've worked hard all their lives, many times only to see their jobs shipped overseas or their pension dumped after a lifetime of labor. They are anxious about their futures, and feel their dreams slipping away; in an era of stagnant wages and global competition, opportunity comes to be seen as a zero sum game, in which your dreams come at my expense. So when they are told to bus their children to a school across town; when they hear that an African American is getting an advantage in landing a good job or a spot in a good college because of an injustice that they themselves never committed; when they're told that their fears about crime in urban neighborhoods are somehow prejudiced, resentment builds over time. Like the anger within the black community, these resentments aren't always expressed in polite company. But they have helped shape the political landscape for at least a generation. Anger over welfare and affirmative action helped forge the Reagan Coalition. Politicians routinely exploited fears of crime for their own electoral ends. Talk show hosts and conservative commentators built entire careers unmasking bogus claims of racism while dismissing legitimate discussions of racial injustice and inequality as mere political correctness or reverse racism. Just as black anger often proved counterproductive, so have these white resentments distracted attention from the real culprits of the middle class squeeze - a corporate culture rife with inside dealing, questionable accounting practices, and short-term greed; a Washington dominated by lobbyists and special interests; economic policies that favor the few over the many. And yet, to wish away the resentments of white Americans, to label them as misguided or even racist, without recognizing they are grounded in legitimate concerns - this too widens the racial divide, and blocks the path to understanding."

-BO

5/9/2016 6:50:51 AM

Pissing down your back and telling you it's raining.

5/9/2016 6:59:32 AM

5/9/2016 7:08:45 AM

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"I don't want to throw my vote away on Johnson"

voting for the lesser of 2 evils is the thinking that got us in this mess. Heads they win, tails we lose

5/9/2016 7:10:37 AM

wrong thread nm

[Edited on May 9, 2016 at 7:34 AM. Reason : d]

5/9/2016 7:34:12 AM

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"This is a horrible question to answer. There is no good option for 2016. I don't want to throw my vote away on Johnson, because let's face it, he doesn't have a chance. Trump's foreign policy and trade ideas will end up being a nightmare, and we don't really know who he is politically, and Hillary will just end up being more of the same"

I concur

5/9/2016 7:42:04 AM