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says science
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"Obesity carries an additional risk of premature death compared to that of normal-weight individuals, regardless of the obese person’s cholesterol and sugar levels, a study from Mount Sinai Hospital’s Lunenfeld-Tanenbaum Research Institute shows.
“Our research findings challenge the myth that there is such a thing as healthy obesity if people maintain normal-range readings of cholesterol, blood glucose, and blood pressure,” says co- author Dr. Ravi Retnakaran, an endocrinologist at the Leadership Sinai Diabetes Centre at Mount Sinai Hospital in Toronto, and Associate Member of the hospital’s Lunenfeld-Tanenbaum Research Institute. Co-authors are Dr. Caroline K. Kramer and Dr. Bernard Zinman, also of the Lunenfeld-Tanenbaum Research Institute.

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The compiled data of more than 60,000 people make this finding a sturdy and significant guidepost for treating physicians, says Dr. Bernard Zinman. “When we compared the three weight groups, we found that obesity stood out as the key risk factor for premature death from any cause, including cardiovascular events. That’s true for obese people with so-called healthy metabolic status as well as obese people with poor metabolic status – that is, high blood pressure, cholesterol, and blood glucose levels,” he says. Dr. Zinman is a Senior Investigator at the Lunenfeld-Tanenbaum Research Institute and Director of the Leadership Sinai Centre for Diabetes at Mount Sinai Hospital.
Additional findings in this study include:
Increased risk is presented by poor metabolic status, regardless of weight – i.e., both overweight and obese individuals are at the same level of risk “Blood pressure, waist circumference, and insulin resistance increased, and HDL cholesterol decreased, across the BMI categories” in people with both healthy and unhealthy metabolic status

The findings are also important from a policy perspective, explains lead author Dr. Caroline Kramer. “The idea that we don’t need to target health care resources toward obese people whose lab tests are ‘normal’ turns out to be false,” she says. Dr. Kramer is a post-doctoral fellow at the Lunenfeld-Tanenbaum Research Institute.
“Our message to physicians is that for obese individuals, normal metabolic status regarding blood pressure, cholesterol and blood glucose is not protective. If they can start to lose weight, that’s a benefit,” she says.
This perspective is supported by the Annals’ editorial, which says that the study “fuels the debate about the existence of a subset of obese persons who […] should not be targeted for treatment.”
- See more at: http://www.mountsinai.on.ca/about_us/news/2013-news/2018healthy-obesity2019-is-a-myth-say-researchers-at-mount-sinai-hospital#sthash.j9aSfIS3.dpuf"


(alternate link: http://time.com/82848/theres-no-such-thing-as-healthy-obesity-says-study/ )



[Edited on May 1, 2014 at 1:44 PM. Reason : Time]

5/1/2014 1:43:33 PM

moron
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Are you fat? I would not have thought that.

5/1/2014 1:45:12 PM

dtownral
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i'm not, but i feel bad for them

5/1/2014 1:46:52 PM

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not obese people, but studies also show that those with a bit of fat on them live longer than really skinny people. some fat, if it is "brown fat" (metabolically active) offers protection against heart disease.

also, it is known that if your bodyfat levels go below certain thresholds, it messes up the working of many hormones and organs.

both extremes are bad.

5/1/2014 2:11:20 PM

dtownral
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but one extreme affects such a small percentage of people that its almost not worth mentioning, the other affects every person who says they are overweight but healthy (which is like every overweight person, which is like every person)

[Edited on May 1, 2014 at 2:13 PM. Reason : a]

5/1/2014 2:13:17 PM

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I'm filing this under #noshit

5/1/2014 2:19:30 PM

justinh524
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yeah it's hard to be skinny enough to be unhealthy unless you have an eating disorder/are poor in a third world country/do drugs.

don't be a fatty, fatty.

5/1/2014 2:26:28 PM

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Study here:
http://unmhospitalist.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/71799116/0000605-201312030-00008.pdf


A few interesting quotes:
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"Eight studies (n = 61 386; 3988 events) evaluated participants for all-cause mortality and/or cardiovascular events. Metabolically healthy obese individuals (relative risk [RR], 1.24; 95% CI, 1.02 to 1.55) had increased risk for events compared with metabolically healthy normal-weight individuals when only studies with 10 or more years of follow-up were considered. All metabolically unhealthy groups had a similarly elevated risk: normal weight (RR, 3.14; CI, 2.36 to 3.93), overweight (RR, 2.70; CI, 2.08 to 3.30), and obese (RR, 2.65; CI, 2.18 to 3.12)."



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"Particular attention should be given to individuals with metabolic unhealthy status despite normal weight. In-deed, this group had a similar rate of events as that in their metabolically unhealthy overweight and obese peers. A possible explanation is that this group might represent the
most severe subtype along the phenotypic spectrum of individuals genetically predisposed to CV disease, such that they have unfavorable metabolic features, even without excess weight. This concept is supported by the surprising observation that this group had the highest weighted mean
difference in LDL cholesterol and glucose levels compared with the metabolically healthy normal-weight group (even higher than their metabolically unhealthy overweight and obese peers)"

5/1/2014 4:19:55 PM

y0willy0
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Oh look, something else dtownral obsesses over.

(im fat)

5/1/2014 4:24:23 PM

dtownral
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okay aaronburro

5/1/2014 4:29:05 PM

y0willy0
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Oh look, another obsession; how many aliases does y0willy0 have?

Answer: everyone dtownral dislikes.

5/1/2014 4:47:25 PM

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dtownral must have been large as a child. He is just toooo against overweight people. He's like the homophobic gay guy of the "being fit" world.

5/1/2014 5:55:48 PM

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wait, hashtags are for filing stuff?

5/1/2014 5:57:02 PM

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https://theconversation.com/hungry-food-choices-are-often-influenced-by-forces-out-of-your-control-46303

Hungry? Food choices are often influenced by forces out of your control

Good read.

10/5/2015 4:12:52 AM

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http://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/fda-approves-the-installation-of-stomach-taps/

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Fatties gonna fat

6/22/2016 3:50:06 PM

afripino
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liberal media SJW echo chamber false narrative blah blah blah...

[Edited on June 22, 2016 at 4:48 PM. Reason : ]

6/22/2016 4:47:53 PM

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