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sumfoo1
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List them up.

Almost all mods done purely for style frustrate me. Especially if it was originally done for speed. (Bbs lms)

Things that are multiplied purely for penis extending reasons

I.e. 10" of lift will fit the biggest street legal tires on x truck
But someone lifts it 18" and runs those same tires

Or double blowers are better than 1 etc.

10/8/2013 1:44:57 PM

Dr Pepper
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- inefficient traction bar designs (see 'pullin' trucks)

- suspension members with ridiculous design which were built by someone who thinks its functional (saw a 'rib' on the top side of an axle one time intended to be a truss)

- Adding the "HP" of modifications to guess one's power

- open exhaust on slow cars at drag strip

- modifications that make it harder/unpleasant to drive street driven vehicles (I'm guilty of this, and want to do better)

- any one thing that falls under the term "Oraler" for a diesel enthusiast

10/8/2013 1:50:46 PM

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people who drive trucks or suvs to transport children and groceries

BMW moving the window controls from center console beside the gear shift to the door

salt-life window decals

[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 1:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 1:52:56 PM

sumfoo1
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Oh

Open exhaust made me want to add

What ever the fuck those people do to make their trucks sound louder than the thing would with straight pipes.

Sounds like an engine running through a tuna.

10/8/2013 1:55:25 PM

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The bulbous front ends of all cars now, courtesy of the European Pedestrian Crash Regulations.

10/8/2013 2:21:12 PM

Dr Pepper
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What ever the fuck those people do to make their trucks sound louder than the thing would with straight pipes.
"


talking about ferds and chervies with the obnoxious turbine whissle?

10/8/2013 2:38:49 PM

sumfoo1
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Nahh sounds like a diesel using an exhaust brake when they are lightly accelerating.

10/8/2013 3:20:16 PM

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People with their shit cars, lowered, with a custom exhaust for their 4 cylinder, biggest ass spoiler imaginable for a car with a top speed of 90, with unpainted, yet primed, front and rear facias that appear to have been run over every object imaginable. Oh yeah, throw in that they have a K&N sticker on the window.



[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

10/8/2013 4:34:59 PM

tchenku
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please give me all your lame, unwanted BBS LMS wheels kthx

my pet peeves are more general:

people who drive under the speed limit on a 2-lane road
cars that smoke oily blue all the time
obnoxiously loud Harleys (WTF is up with that? It's as loud as open downpipe...)

10/8/2013 5:31:54 PM

tchenku
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240sx ad:

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"For sale is a project I've had sitting around for a few months that I do not have time for, and I need money for a family emergency.
The bad:

The car is NOT running. Needs a starter and battery. I have not had any luck push starting it.

Once the car is running, it will need a new steering rack. I wouldn't recommend driving it until this is done because of the nasty play causing the front wheels to shake after 35+ MPH. Apprx $300

Next, a bolt hole where the intake manifold meets the cylinder head is stripped out. Until this is fixed, the car won't make boost. Cheap to fix parts-wise, but it's kinda tricky if you've never retapped/helicoiled a bolt hole before.


Those three things will get the car running and earning you speeding tickets.

The less critical issues that should still be addressed:

The turbo needs to be rebuilt. It's a T3/T4 and frankly isn't that big a deal. Probably the cheapest and simplest turbo to rebuild.

The head gasket is a little goobered. I recommend replacing it.

At some point the whole motor could use a freshening up with new gaskets and a good clean/rebuild

The headlights are HIDs with cheap ballasts. One got wet and blew. Fortunately, they're cheap ballasts. $16 will have both headlights back up.


Now for the goodies.

Motor

SR20DET
HKS 264/264 (I believe!!) cams
CP Pistons w/ Nitrided rings
T3/T4 60 Trim @ 18lbs/12lbs/7lbs (Three programs on controller)
Apexi AVC-R Boost Controller
Larger injectors (I can't remember the size, I believe 550s)
Spitfire Ignition
Apexi PowerFC engine management with FC Commander
Aftermarket radiator with electric fan. I recommend switching to dual fan
Nice big front mount intercooler

Suspension/Brakes

Full Cusco coilover suspension
Rear swaybar
Custom driveshaft
300ZX brake conversion - Could use new pads
180sx LSD

Interior

Assorted gauges that fell in to disrepair and I never bothered to fix them. The wideband isn't hooked up, the boost guage needs to be calibrated, and I just don't trust the oil pressure or water temp gauges. I use the AVC-R and PowerFC for all my data. They are much more accurate. Get used to metric, though!

Skyline GTS seats

There are obviously lots more mods than these, I just pointed out the key ones. Feel free to shoot me questions.

$2900"


[Edited on October 8, 2013 at 6:34 PM. Reason : ]

10/8/2013 6:34:25 PM

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fucking rickies and their damn "carolina squat" trucks with the obnoxious mufflers and the headlights that point directly into my eyes. these fuckers are scum.

10/8/2013 6:48:49 PM

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Dual CB antennas on anything other than an 18-wheeler.

Retards that drive old ass hoopties with 24" rims and shitty paint.

Carolina Squat

Ricers ( I respect actual HP, not fart cans)

Motorcycles that are too loud

Loud bass stereos at red lights

Fake HID's

10/8/2013 7:34:16 PM

sumfoo1
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^^

Pioneer!!

10/8/2013 8:05:40 PM

TKE-Teg
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I hate (seemingly) how almost every car under the sun has a dual exhaust. Pretty sure the Miata, Mazda3, Mazda6, Mazda CX-5, Scion FRS/Subaru BRZ, Nissan Altima, Sonata/Optima, insert random SUV here: ______ , etc, etc don't need dual exhaust. In most cases it's just extra weight.

(just the cars that came to mind immediately)

10/9/2013 8:46:25 AM

sumfoo1
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Part of me hates... Part of me
Likes symmetry...

On some cars I don't know what wins.

On my subie it aggravated me because the split made a funky sound that stis didn't have and ruined the boxer burble.

I guess that's my opinion if it ever goes down to 1 pipe it should stay there.

10/9/2013 8:51:34 AM

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automatic transmissions in a sports car

10/9/2013 9:04:27 AM

smoothcrim
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convertible 911 turbo
deep dish wheels
drifting
things being marketed as performance when really they're just a slight step up from complete trash, but are still mostly trash
cars that cost a metric fuckton but still have super cheap plastic parts in places where they shouldnt

10/9/2013 11:31:39 AM

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"Signature" styling elements added on cars they don't belong to. E. g. portholes on anything that isn't a Buick or Maserati, M3-style fender vents on other cars, GT-R emblems on things that aren't even Nissans, etc.

10/9/2013 12:22:35 PM

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skinny tires on narrow rims that have obviously been "upgraded" from what came from the factory

cambered out to just get the car lower, not for performance driving

10/9/2013 1:45:40 PM

sumfoo1
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I'm actually cool with any mods for any kind of Motorsport I'm cool with aesthetic mods that don't mimic Motorsport mods or have performance consequences.

Slicks and skinniest... If your car needs it go for it. Now if you did it on a stock Camaro v6 I'd want to slap you. Or worse yet a car that used to handle well like a stock 2sk or something.

10/9/2013 2:15:17 PM

Hiro
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Cars "stanced" Out.

More specifically, rims wider than the tires fitted to it.

10/9/2013 8:02:01 PM

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Pretty much everything about this truck:



[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 8:53 PM. Reason : .]

10/9/2013 8:52:24 PM

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Their tag is out

10/9/2013 9:03:13 PM

optmusprimer
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"Cars "stanced" Out.

More specifically, rims wider than the tires fitted to it."


that is stretched not stanced

10/9/2013 11:55:51 PM

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"cambered out to just get the car lower, not for performance driving
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stanced

[Edited on October 9, 2013 at 11:59 PM. Reason : lots of sandy vaginas in this thread! but seriously death to anyone with a squat truck]

10/9/2013 11:56:57 PM

Hiro
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I mean stuff like this:





I mean, what are these guys doing running an 9.5"-10" wide rim with a 245/40R18 tire? Bragging rights that they got a really wide rim to fit under their fenders?

[Edited on October 10, 2013 at 1:07 AM. Reason : .]

10/10/2013 1:05:33 AM

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car club & 'catchy' stickers.... and the larger they are, the more pissed I get.

- "Torqued Atmosphere" local club, fucking windshield banners. Bunch of imports.

- Diesel Oralers... from the Cummins "C" to the stupid sexual innuendo phrases like "Cum on this" or the like. Saw a guy at a dyno day with his back glass covered in some stupid vinyl sticker saying something to that effect, who laid down 3xx whp.

- imports with random sticker placement (see pic above)

- cheap/fake wraps

- LKN & Salt Life stickers

10/10/2013 7:40:08 AM

sumfoo1
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And obx

10/10/2013 8:10:54 AM

TKE-Teg
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^^^I believe the kids these days call that "Hella Flush".

10/10/2013 8:23:38 AM

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Power seats, especially in combination of some mechanical, some electric. just do all mechanical for fuck's sake. I'd like to lump power windows in here too, but they are pretty convenient.

Poor visibility. Those 2' wide c-pillars sure look dope. Too bad you can't see through them.

Touch-screen stereo head units. Thanks for making me HAVE to look to accomplish anything other than changing the volume. Great.

Shitty cup holders. More like drink-spillers. "I'm sure this spindly piece of plastic will hold a container full of liquid in a moving car." they said. Assholes.

Fucking rear windows that don't go down all the way. WTF? This has been pissing me off since I was a kid. Actually it might have pissed me off more then because I was more likely to be back there, but still, I don't get it.

VW rear doors that make you pull the handle twice to get out. All the time people ask me why the child lock is on. I have to explain that you just have to pull twice and no, I have no idea why they do that.

It really irks me that you can't get a decent CRX anymore. RIP

10/10/2013 12:18:01 PM

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I will also submit I hate car magazines that talk about "track performance", coffee and cars, and the people that participate with both.

[Edited on October 10, 2013 at 12:20 PM. Reason : grassroots motorsports and d-sport get a pass]

10/10/2013 12:19:48 PM

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coffee and cars is fine to me, i think the problem is just people who take it too seriously

10/10/2013 1:02:55 PM

Dr Pepper
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"It really irks me that you can't get a decent CRX anymore. RIP"


yeah, goddamnit. Every one I've seen looks like dog shit and the guy wants $3500 for it.

10/10/2013 1:31:28 PM

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^^^I don't know why anyone has a problem with C&C's, as a whole. And magazines that talk about track performance, wtf mate?

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"Fucking rear windows that don't go down all the way. WTF? This has been pissing me off since I was a kid. Actually it might have pissed me off more then because I was more likely to be back there, but still, I don't get it."


Usually the rear wheel well shapes the back end of the rear door and thus, you cannot put the window down all the way b/c there physically is no room for the glass.

[Edited on October 10, 2013 at 3:33 PM. Reason : k]

10/10/2013 3:29:47 PM

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^I was going to point out the same thing. If you want rear windows that go all the way down usually you get split glass in the bargain, which looks kind of crappy. (But I'lll deal with a slim black bar in return for the window going all the way down, in most cases.)

10/10/2013 3:58:22 PM

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^^ I have no desire to go to a gathering where people show off street legal cars, meet me at a track or before a group ride/drive through the middle of nowhere at high speeds.

also, i've yet to read a magazine that was remotely accurate or worthwhile as a reference to track capability. if such a thing existed, it would hate 90+% of all cars and would never make any money. the magazines are all sales and advertising vehicles and nothing more.

10/10/2013 7:37:03 PM

tchenku
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^the track stuff has a lot of objective in addition to the subjective though

car shows are pretty boring though

10/10/2013 7:51:29 PM

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convertibles with the top down and the windows up

people not pulling into the intersection while waiting for a break in traffic to turn left

people pulling out in front of me in traffic and then not hitting the gas and getting the fuck out of the way. if you pull out in front of someone and they have to let off the throttle to keep from hitting you, you are fucking wrong.


and people driving in the left lane when they aren't passing. goddammit that pisses me off. it is one of my biggest pet peeves in all of life, let alone specific to automotivedom.

10/11/2013 12:12:59 AM

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"convertibles with the top down and the windows up"


What's so wrong with that? I would do it all the time. Sometimes I don't want a roof, but I also don't want the wind blasting me in the face. And if it's hot out, leaving the windows up makes the AC more effective at keeping you cool. And in the winter time when it's 40-50° outside it makes the heat more effective as well. And if you're on the interstate and have a weak stereo (hello S2000) leaving the windows up makes it much easier to hear the music. Nevermind driving for extended amounts of time on the interstate with the top down & windows down can lead to permanent hearing damage.

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"I have no desire to go to a gathering where people show off street legal cars"


You're doing it wrong. People gather at C&C to share their passion for all things automotive. Sure some assholes/poseurs show up, but that happens with any large group of people, regardless of topic/interest. Don't like it don't go, big whoop.

[Edited on October 11, 2013 at 9:21 AM. Reason : f]

[Edited on October 11, 2013 at 9:22 AM. Reason : k]

10/11/2013 9:20:05 AM

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convertible in the winter with top down, windows up, and heat going = win

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"people not pulling into the intersection while waiting for a break in traffic to turn left"

its against the law to enter the intersection if you can't clear the intersection

10/11/2013 9:41:52 AM

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It's also only illegal to enter the intersection before the light turns red.

I.e., they'll be able to clear the intersection, even if they have to wait until the light turns red.

10/11/2013 9:45:40 AM

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My driver's ed teacher back in the day instructed us on multiple occasions to pull forward when attempting to turn left on green for the same reason described above. I always figured that excuse wouldn't fly if I ever got in trouble for it.

I'll add a couple of my pet peeves...
Off-center decals/stickers that the person meant to center but failed miserably
The monograms that are way too spread out and typically uneven like x____X______x.
Slappy, hollow sounding exhaust on trucks just so they are louder... you've got a nice V8 that could sound wonderful and you go and pull that bullshit.
Spoilers on pickup trucks
6" dia. vertical stack(s) exhaust on diesel pickups, especially the ones without flappers or bends that they cover with a bucket when it rains.

[Edited on October 11, 2013 at 3:28 PM. Reason : .]

10/11/2013 3:26:41 PM

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Quote :
"6" dia. vertical stack(s) exhaust on diesel pickups, especially the ones without flappers or bends that they cover with a bucket when it rains."


10/11/2013 4:22:42 PM

smoothcrim
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I don't go. the mere idea bugs me

10/11/2013 4:57:52 PM

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i hate how stupid fucks feel like they need to putz around with 4000 pounds of shit everywhere they go.

get a fucking bicycle god DAMN! idiots


"but whah! it's not safe!" fuch you, heart disease and pollution isn't safe either.
"but whah im tired" fuck you it's because of your fucking car you stupid shithead
"but whah it's not bling" fuck you yes it is. just not in the suburban shithole you live in because of your car
"but whah it's expensive" HAHAHA!!!! because its so cheap you can't get it financed you think its expensive!! go die in a fire you creditcard FUCKTARD
"but whah i cant go very far" fuck you, rent a car when you need it and learn to order shit online.
"but whah, niggers" ok you got me there. thats why i moved to china. just stay out of shitty neighborhoods as best you can. i think GPS tracking thingys are cheap now, not sure

10/11/2013 5:11:43 PM

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I hate how a lot of cars don't weigh around 3200lbs w/500+hp and rear engined, that really blows.

10/11/2013 5:12:53 PM

sumfoo1
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^^ lol

^ agreed


It pisses me off ford doesn't have a sedan on the mustang chassis do want.

10/11/2013 7:06:14 PM

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Quote :
"It's also only illegal to enter the intersection before the light turns red."


Actually its illegal to enter enter an intersection on green/yellow/red without due caution.

10/12/2013 7:08:04 PM

theDuke866
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Eh...ok?

10/12/2013 7:30:26 PM

sumfoo1
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Nice gotta love ambiguous terms that allow you to ticket for whatever the fuck you want. Like speeding for conditions " dude I was going 45 in a 45 " I'm sorry it was unsafe for conditions ... Mother fucker I didn't crash how unsafe could it be ?

10/12/2013 8:18:42 PM

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