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"Carrying signs that read: "Obama, Obama, we like Osama" and "Behead All Those Who Insult the Prophet," protesters gathered on the steps of the consulate."

Lovely. Attacking British and German embassies now as well. Sure, why not.

Apparently they're protesting the made by an American insult to islam in Australia now. Can't say that it makes any sense, but fuck it we're talking about a backwards ass group of ignorant fucks anyway so why should it make sense.

Clashes between Muslim protesters and police have been reported in Sidney today.

Don't worry, in 500 years or so Islamic culture will catch up to where Western civilization is now.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/15/world/meast/embassy-attacks-main/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

[Edited on September 15, 2012 at 8:04 AM. Reason : fsadfs]

9/15/2012 7:53:21 AM

Sidney

9/15/2012 9:48:35 AM

This is obviously not a demonstration of anti-American sentiment, because the Muslim world began easing its hostilities towards us when BHO was elected, and the proudest things of his three years in office has been helping to restore a sense of respect for America around the world.

9/15/2012 10:36:23 AM

^you're right. this is relevant to obama, it's all his fault!

9/15/2012 10:39:01 AM

^you obviously dont know or care to understand the background to his sarcasm. Which is justified.

9/15/2012 10:47:28 AM

oh, i thought i read his sarcasm just fine, and responded with sarcasm. Obama promised us all that if he was elected, everybody in the world would love us unconditionally. Because he's "The Anointed One", and stuff.

9/15/2012 10:50:29 AM

if you read what he said during the campaigns, and during his inauguration, you will find that is a true statement

9/15/2012 11:31:56 AM

9/15/2012 11:35:24 AM

^^i know. he said that everybody in the whole-wide world would love him and love america. even somali pirates, white supremacists, islamic fundamentalists, and extremists like yourself. it didn't happen, there are still people who don't look at him and/or america favorably, and therefore he is a liar, and these protests are all his fault. He now has the blood of the ambassador on his hands because of this movie that he allowed to be shown. For shame.

(on a side note, people that riot like this over a stupid film about a silly religion are complete idiots)

9/15/2012 11:56:41 AM

so lemme get this right. bush fucked up the economy and the united states' global reputation, but because Obama hasn't fixed it all in 4 years, he's the terrible president

whatevs

[Edited on September 15, 2012 at 1:54 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2012 1:51:51 PM

religion of peace my ass. bunch of ignorant fucking cavemen.

9/15/2012 2:19:20 PM

I think a lot of the fundamentalist Christians are cavemen. Luckily, we have a government that allows them to express their beliefs freely without letting them carry out their beliefs against others.

9/15/2012 3:30:20 PM

You mean to tell me Muslims come out and fight over a video that crosses their line...


yet fat stupid lazy Americas won't even get out of their chair knowing the entire United State's political system is corrupt and about to lead everyone off a fiscal cliff in its pursuit of imperialism and new world order?

[Edited on September 15, 2012 at 4:10 PM. Reason : .]

9/15/2012 4:09:53 PM

I love the New World Order.

9/15/2012 4:17:52 PM

Obama trying to boost security at embassies in Yemen and Sudan with Marines.

Above countries kindly saying "no thanks."

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" SyriasTruth wrote: You just can’t figure out these Muslim extremist’s..!!! A cheap film about Muslim prophet…no one killed by the film. No mosques destroyed or holy Muslim books burned. Yet Muslims riot and kill in the streets all over the world. Well let me ask…Where is the outrage and riots over the slaughter of Muslims, the destruction of hundreds of Muslim Mosques of every sect, the buring of thousands of Muslim holy books….all in Syria by Bashar Assad the ruler of Syria. TELL ME…where are the Muslim nations? Where…are the Muslim’s who are outraged? Bashar Assad has mass murdered over 39,000 Syrian Muslims !! Butchered unarmed Muslim civilians…men, women, children and babies. Assad has arrested or disappeared over 235,000 other Muslim Syrian people. He has slit their throats after capture, burned them alive in their homes, burried them in mass graves hundreds at a time. Where is this so called Muslim outrage ??? None….nothing anywhere !! Not one protest against Assad’s attackes on Muslims and Muslim mosques !! Yet…today…and I mean right now !!! Assad is shelling with artillery, and bombing with planes Muslim cities, villages and towns…just as he has for 19 months. Not one Muslim on TV, or in the streets to protest this slaughter! Yet here we have Muslims all across the world as “Movie Critics” burning and killing over the insult ??? What about the actual act, the actual destruction of Muslim People and their Holy places of worship? How can Muslim’s let Bashar Assad act..and not protest such atrocities against Muslims? If there is this little outrage over Syria’s Muslims being slaughtered …then all this rioting and outrage over an unpublished movie nad it’s trailer is just a bunch of Muslim BS! Useless waste of lives and energy. If Muslims don’t care about what is going on in Syria …..Muslim’s just don’t care…AT ALL. "

[Edited on September 15, 2012 at 9:16 PM. Reason : -]

9/15/2012 9:14:48 PM

I have a sneaking suspicion that you left out the link to that quote, because you don't want to admit that you found it on a right-wing blog.....Ahh...I just searched. You just quoted some worthless claptrap from the comments section of an article. Another ace post, willy!

9/15/2012 10:03:34 PM

wtf

I thought in austrialia people did not protest and shit, they just rode kangaroos and call each other mate.

9/15/2012 11:45:52 PM

There's nothing wrong with protesting, they're just protesting for what seems like a dumb reason (being offended because of religion-- is there ever a good reason to protest? seems like people call all protests dumb anyway).

The murder at the Libyan embassy is thought to have been from a planned terrorist attack, it doesn't count as protest turned rowdy.

9/15/2012 11:54:42 PM

I'm guessing nobody there saw this clip??


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIlG9aSMCpg

9/16/2012 12:50:02 AM

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"I have a sneaking suspicion that you left out the link to that quote, because you don't want to admit that you found it on a right-wing blog.....Ahh...I just searched. You just quoted some worthless claptrap from the comments section of an article. Another ace post, willy!"

You're absolutely right! Great detective work!

Now fire those same neurons and dispute it!

**Thumbs up!**

Besides, I think you embarrassed yourself enough on page 2 of the teacher strike thread to just shut the fuck up for a month or so.

[Edited on September 16, 2012 at 10:30 AM. Reason : -]

9/16/2012 10:27:40 AM

haha. telling someone to "fire up their neurons to dispute" an irrational tirade from some extremists commenter on a right-wing website against all the muslims of the world, generalizing them all as one singular people. That's rich.

(although i agree, the outrage against a stupid film is.... ridiculous and should be ridiculed)

9/16/2012 12:00:46 PM

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" irrational tirade"

Why is the main point irrational?

How is it rational that it's okay for muslims to slaughter other muslims as long they aren't criticizing Muhammad?

9/16/2012 1:02:10 PM

^^Yeah, Reuters...

What a goddamn fringe piece of shit.

9/16/2012 1:28:18 PM

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"How is it rational that it's okay for muslims to slaughter other muslims as long they aren't criticizing Muhammad?"

simple. it's not.

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"What a goddamn fringe piece of shit."

haha, back to cussing and name-calling. way to "fire up those neurons" and show how rational and intelligent you are. care to explain why you think i'm on the "fringe"? (p.s. not being an extreme right-winger like yourself isn't an explanation).

9/16/2012 3:22:58 PM

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"You're absolutely right! Great detective work! Now fire those same neurons and dispute it! **Thumbs up!** Besides, I think you embarrassed yourself enough on page 2 of the teacher strike thread to just shut the fuck up for a month or so."

It's a shame that you don't have a base level of humility. The most minimal sense of self-doubt would at least help you question your positions before spouting off emotional arguments and then declaring yourself intelligent.

You know, normally, holding a mirror up to your opinions would be enough to at least expose you to the absurdity of your own positions. Yet, you're so comfortable in your own ignorance that you've convinced yourself that you are an intelligent person. And that's really sad. Sincerely, it deeply upsets me that there are people like you walking around with a level of undeserved confidence. Truly, it cripples me knowing that you cannot argue with people like you, because you've internally shut off the mechanism for debate and dialogue. I might have to pick up a recreational drug habit just prevent myself from thinking too much about the topic.

You've wallowed so deeply into an ideology that you've cemented at such an early age, that you've closed every possible avenue for intellectual growth. You completely lack the necessary amount of criticism that is needed for honest self examination.

Look, homey. You didn't quote Reuters. You quoted a comment made by an anonymous poster on the internet. It has zero accountability. Just because it was attached to a reputable source, you've convinced yourself that it is a worthy topic of examination. It could easily have been made by some balding, middle-aged asshole who sustains himself on Cheetos and diet soda. And worst of all, there is nothing of relevance in the post. It simply states that Assad is committing genocide against his own people, which isn't even up for dispute. But it then posits the idea that Muslim's, acting as unified bloc, are not enraged at this atrocity without offering any evidence to this claim. It completely ignores the fact that many of the people who are being exterminated, are the very ones who oppose his actions. The post literally has zero relevance to the current discussion, and only serves to deflect the honest criticism that should be directed at US foreign policy as it relates to the current wave of protests radiating outward from the Middle East.



Fuck, you're stupid.

9/16/2012 5:19:52 PM

Actually, saying that there isn't outrage from muslims about the wholesale slaughter of Syrians is pretty fair. Have you seen much in terms of criticism from muslim leaders? Have you seen much about it on Al-jazeera or other major middle east news outlets?

Maybe I've just missed it, but outside of Morsi in Egypt I haven't heard a peep from any other muslim middle eastern leader. The most positive statements coming out in favor of the anti-Assad "rebels" seems to be coming from groups like Al-Qaeda who are pretty supportive of any instability. Maybe that explains some of why the rest of the arab world is so quiet, but honestly the lack of outrage from the Muslim community about what's happening in Syria vs. the world wide furor over a low budge movie trailer is pretty astonishing.

It does seem that culturally muslims seem to accept violence between muslims a lot more readily than they'll accept any slight to their religion from outside the muslim world.

[Edited on September 16, 2012 at 6:05 PM. Reason : sdfsadf]

9/16/2012 6:05:11 PM

http://www.aljazeera.com/programmes/insidesyria/

9/16/2012 6:14:44 PM

Yes, I know Al-jazeera has a whole page about Syria, that's not what I was asking. What I was asking is, have you seen much on Al-jazeera, the best source for this kind of news, about criticism of Assad from muslim leaders. I have not.

9/16/2012 6:30:28 PM

Yeah, Al-Jazeera sure is on top of things.

First page:

"Is Syria in a state of Civil War?"

"Is al-Assad Losing Controls?"

Turkey-Syria relations: Taking a nose dive?"

"How can peace be brought to Syria?"

Great minds are surely toiling over these issues at Al-Jazeera for sure; maybe you should be an official contributor!

9/16/2012 6:57:08 PM

you should post the dates of those headlines, as well as the descriptions. Great post, willys

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""Is Syria in a state of Civil War?""

As fighting escalates, we ask why the international community is reluctant to call the conflict a civil war. 26 Aug 2012

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""Is al-Assad Losing Controls?""

As the fighting has reached Damascus, we ask if it is a sign that the war in Syria is moving towards a resolution. 22 Jul 2012

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"Turkey-Syria relations: Taking a nose dive?""

As Syria shoots down a Turkish jet, we ask if the incident will escalate into more violence between the two countries. 24 Jun 2012

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""How can peace be brought to Syria?""

As violence continues despite a UN peace plan, we ask what other options are left to end the bloodshed. 28 May 2012

9/16/2012 7:06:54 PM

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"Yes, I know Al-jazeera has a whole page about Syria, that's not what I was asking. What I was asking is, have you seen much on Al-jazeera, the best source for this kind of news, about criticism of Assad from muslim leaders. I have not."

Other than the defectors within the Assad regime?

9/16/2012 7:08:04 PM

^^And again, I point out that there just isn't much from the Arab world decrying the violence or condemning Assad, who is pretty clearly in the wrong.

^Yeah, I mean Iran is still fully supporting Assad and most of the rest of the Arab world is non-commital and silent. Again, maybe I've been missing the calls from other muslim leaders for assad to step down and stop slaughtering people.

[Edited on September 16, 2012 at 7:16 PM. Reason : asdfs]

9/16/2012 7:12:14 PM

^^^Thanks for illustrating in more detail what I hoped everyone would infer (in the first place).

Front page of the link you provided; old-ass shit that everyone on God's green Earth already knows.

9/16/2012 7:17:59 PM

^I.....seriously? This is your argument? They can't be trusted because they archive their stories? This is the crux of your argument?

I mean, good God. Do I really need to explain why that's stupid? You can't be this stupid. Honestly, you just can't. There's no way you can sit here and be more critical of Al-Jazeera, who has been covering the events unfolding regularly than you are of some anonymous post by some schmuck on the internet about his opinion of Muslim's worldwide. I..I...can't even...fuck me.


I hope you realize that the link I showed you was to ONE program that is dedicated to covering the Syrian conflict. This is in ADDITION to their regular news coverage, which can mostly be found in their Middle East section of their homepage.

[Edited on September 16, 2012 at 7:30 PM. Reason : ]

9/16/2012 7:27:39 PM

I doubt extremist protestors responding to an Islamophobic amateur movie represents all 1.6 billion Muslims or Islam. There is a lot of nutjob extremists here too, but no one thinks they represent all Christians. If anyone has such simple views of the world they are either ignorant or hate filled like the nut jobs protesting the movie.

Interesting article about the dumb movie: http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/report-softcore-porn-director-behind-innocence-of-muslims-film-that-sparked-anti-u-s-protests-1.465188

9/16/2012 7:38:44 PM

^^Archived on the front page.

I see.

No, you're right.

Fuck you.

That schmuck's opinion of Muslim's worldwide is true, and you can't prove otherwise.

I suggest you just take a break and wait for Bullet to provide me with more Engrish to make fun of. By the time I'm finished with that ill have completely forgotten you even posted here.





^They don't necessarily, but the majority of them sure as hell turn a blind eye and don't police their extremists the way we do ours. Christianity threw its little temper tantrum hundreds of years ago. Islam sure as hell isn't going to be allowed to have theirs in the 21st century.

[Edited on September 16, 2012 at 7:44 PM. Reason : -]

9/16/2012 7:40:49 PM

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"They don't necessarily, but the majority of them sure as hell turn a blind eye and don't police their extremists the way we do ours. Christianity threw its little temper tantrum hundreds of years ago. Islam sure as hell isn't going to be allowed to have theirs in the 21st century."

The compulsive need to declare that regular, violent outbreaks over nonsensical stuff like cartoons, movies, books, etc. is somehow ok because most muslims aren't actively involved in it is ridiculous.

The fact of the matter is that culturally it's acceptable because there is no backlash from the rest of muslim society for doing it. I think we all know that most muslims aren't burning property and killing people, but that doesn't change the fact that this is almost an identical reaction to a newspaper cartoon 7 years ago. Where are the signs of growth and maturity, why has no lesson been learned about appropriate reactions? If it's not a culture wide issue then why is there no self-policing? These are fair questions to ask, and the conclusions that were posted in the text that y0willy0 quoted are not unreasonable conclusions to draw given what you see and don't see.

9/16/2012 7:52:50 PM

Recent Western extremist events such as the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting and Norway shooting show what Islamophobia results in.

There is a lot of poverty and lack of education in the Middle East which will take time to fix. Just because Arab Spring is over doesn't mean all the problems were solved. I think extremists need to be dealt with and terrorists need to be hunted.

I'm just saying people need to be careful when they make broad generalizations about a group of people...

9/16/2012 8:12:16 PM

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"Recent Western extremist events such as the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting and Norway shooting show what Islamophobia results in."

This will fall on deaf ears, unfortunately. People would rather selectively pick and choose which incidents to draw their conclusions. Christian fundamentalist violence occurs often, as is the case with most forms of fundamentalists. The Norway shootings, the Sikh temple shootings, religious temple vandalism, abortion clinic bombings, and many others are done in the name of Christianity, and nobody requests that all Christian's everywhere condemn the violence, because it should be obvious that they are opposed to it. Yet we hold Muslim's to a different set of standards, which is not constructive.



Edit: Actually, I should rephrase that. We hold Muslim's to a different set of standards because it excuses our continued occupation of the Middle East. It's much easier to reconcile the damage we are causing by our continued presence if we view all of our 'enemies' as savages who need to be civilized by our empire.

[Edited on September 16, 2012 at 9:45 PM. Reason : ]

9/16/2012 9:38:29 PM

We hold Muslims to a different set of standards because of the scale of violence.

You listed domestic criminal issues.

Not the topic of discussion at all.

These savages need to be civilized by their own government and peers. You're right, we shouldn't be over there at all.

9/16/2012 10:15:43 PM

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"I doubt extremist protestors responding to an Islamophobic amateur movie represents all 1.6 billion Muslims or Islam. There is a lot of nutjob extremists here too, but no one thinks they represent all Christians. If anyone has such simple views of the world they are either ignorant or hate filled like the nut jobs protesting the movie. "

Very true.

And on top of this, the "Islamophobic" response only serves to stoke existing anger and create new anger.

However, governments based on theocracies, like many of the mid-east countries including Israel, are dumb ideas. You'll always have these types of problems as long as government and religion stick too closely together.

9/16/2012 10:51:19 PM

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2012/09/chinas-anti-japan-protests-attract-some-chinese-criticism/262481/

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" On Saturday protestors in dozens of Chinese cities took to the streets to voice their anger at the Japanese government's nationalization of the Diaoyu Islands (Senkaku Islands in Japanese) in the East China Sea as a flagrant violation of Chinese sovereignty. In Beijing, thousands of protestorsbesieged the Japanese embassy, hurling eggs, bottles and anything else at hand - sometimes hitting unfortunate reporters stationed nearby - and tried to storm the barricades manned by hundreds of riot police."

Some Chinese getting rowdy over some dirt.

9/17/2012 3:40:09 PM

Some might find this a little humorous

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gregorymcneal/2012/09/16/pakistani-protester-burns-american-flag-and-dies-from-smoke/

9/18/2012 2:59:51 PM

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"The protesters, demanding respect for and tolerance of Islam, threatened to destroy the U.S. consulate in Pakistan if the United States does not publicly hang the movie’s producer, director, and “all those involved in the production and release of the movie” (which would presumably include Google and YouTube employees). The protesters also will not be satisfied until the United States makes a “law against blasphemy.”"

Respect and tolerance! And for those who don't respect and tolerate us, death!

9/18/2012 3:20:05 PM

Needless death caused by superstition and irrationality? hilarious

9/18/2012 3:21:38 PM

^well, he caused his own death by superstition and irrationailty. if he'd been rational, he'd still be alive. but i know, it shouldn't be funny.

[Edited on September 18, 2012 at 3:24 PM. Reason : ]

9/18/2012 3:22:09 PM

It's funny in the same way that the Darwin Awards are funny.

9/18/2012 3:55:32 PM

Looks like tomorrow is going to be #EveryonetweetMuhammadday (crap, how is twitter going to even decide which hashtag to use to insult the prophet when no one can even agree on how to spell Mohammed??)

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2012/09/french-mag-to-publish-cartoons-of-prophet-mohammed/

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"A French satirical magazine is set to publish several cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed on Wednesday, a move that is likely to inflame the Islamic faithful and militants who have already rioted in more than 20 countries over a movie mocking the prophet."

There are going to be Muslim heads exploding all over France! And Australia! And other countries where Muslims congregate together to assemble!

[Edited on September 18, 2012 at 8:11 PM. Reason : .....]

[Edited on September 18, 2012 at 8:21 PM. Reason : ....]

9/18/2012 8:10:37 PM

Great, that's all we need in this world now... some rich liberal shitheads to intentionally insult a figurehead for the sake of insulting, and the figurehead's poor conservative wild followers to run amok destroying public property and killing people.

Looks like the prophecy in Islam saying there will be an epic showdown (towards the end of times) between Muslims aligned with good Christians and evil people (bad Christians aligned with Jews and Atheists) is going to be realized one day. Wonder how many people will die

9/19/2012 3:06:34 AM

I think the conservative wild followers will find something to be offended by regardless.

9/19/2012 8:26:41 AM