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moron
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wtf nato... I've always thought Pakistan was perceived as mostly a "friend" I don't see how border crossing guards get mistaken as militants.

they have a right to be pissed if our drones killed their troops.

11/26/2011 10:17:47 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Why are we still there? We killed bin laden. Bring our troops home.

11/26/2011 10:20:54 PM

bbehe
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Holy fuck, I agree with GeniuSxBoY

11/26/2011 10:23:32 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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You'd probably agree with me a lot more if we were to sit down and talk in person. It just gets lost in translation on the Internet.

11/26/2011 10:28:11 PM

red baron 22
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Id say thats true about most soap boxers

11/27/2011 1:05:13 AM

Mindstorm
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We're claiming they shot first.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204630904577061270317324992.html

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"Afghans Say Pakistan Fired First in NATO Attack

Afghan and Western officials on Sunday said NATO and Afghan forces on a nighttime operation Saturday came under fire from across the Pakistan border before they called in a deadly airstrike on two Pakistani military posts, in an incident has left U.S.-Pakistan relations in tatters.

Pakstan's military denied firing on NATO forces, calling the "unprovoked" raid on the border posts an "irresponsible act." The army questioned why the coalition undertook a sustained two-hour attack on well-known border positions, involving helicopters and fighter jets, which left 25 soldiers dead and another 25 injured.

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11/27/2011 4:31:37 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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We need evidence...


not he said/she said bullshit they always feed us

11/27/2011 5:42:16 PM

d357r0y3r
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Really, imagine if 24 soldiers, based in the continental United States, were killed. It would be a complete outrage. We would be going to war with someone.

What the fuck is our military doing? We desperately need to elect Ron Paul to put a stop to this shit. Totally unacceptable.

11/27/2011 6:57:56 PM

kdogg(c)
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a little more than a kerfuffle, even

11/27/2011 7:08:01 PM

GeniuSxBoY
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Setting up for WWIII on Dec 21, 2012, one month after the election.

11/28/2011 11:29:10 PM

crazy_carl
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"I've always thought Pakistan was perceived as mostly a "friend""


you cant be serious

sure they have a right to be pissed, but stuff like this happens

11/30/2011 10:57:04 PM

wdprice3
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Pakistan is a friend indeed. One that while jerking you off, surprises you with a dildo up your ass.

12/1/2011 8:51:28 AM

theDuke866
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This smacks to me of some Pak soldiers firing on us and getting fucking dealt with.

12/1/2011 4:24:10 PM

Maverick
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How can border crossing guards be mistaken for militants?

Try reading the news once in a while.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/17/world/asia/cross-border-fire-frustrates-american-troops-in-afghanistan.html?_r=1&ref=cjchivers

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"Ground-to-ground rockets fired within Pakistan have landed on or near American military outposts in one Afghan border province at least 55 times since May, according to interviews with multiple American officers and data released in the past week. Last year, during the same period, there were two such attacks.

“The level of command and control, and the level of sophistication of the IDF, is showing that there is some type of expertise being employed,” said one American officer, using the acronym for indirect fire, the term the military uses for mortar, artillery and rocket attacks. The officer spoke on the condition of anonymity because of the diplomatic tensions.

Another officer, who analyzed each incident, said attacks often come from positions next to Pakistani military or Frontier Corps border posts. He said there has been no sign of Pakistani units trying to stop the firing, or of willingness to help American units identify who is shooting at them.

He offered a commonly held assessment: “They are getting help,” the officer said of the insurgents. “It’s PakMil,” he added, using the acronym for Pakistani military.

Asked what evidence supported this claim, he said: “Contact with the PakMil when these incidents are going on is often nonexistent. We usually can’t get a hold of these guys. When we do get a hold of these guys, they say they are not aware or can’t see it. Looking at the terrain, it is very hard to believe.”

The officer pointed on a map to several frequently used firing sites. Then he pointed to Pakistani military positions. Some Pakistani military positions were less than a mile from insurgent firing positions — and had clear line of sight. The officer asked not to be identified.

One recent attack — which both marked an escalation from Pakistan and hinted at the coordination and expertise behind it — occurred on Oct. 3, when four 122-millimeter rockets were fired at one of the outposts.

These rockets, known as Grads, are larger, more lethal and have a greater range than 107-millimeter rockets. They had not been fired at the American outposts here in recent memory, officers said, and perhaps had not been fired before.

Each round struck closer than the previous one, which indicated, four military officers said, that whoever fired them from Pakistan was communicating with a forward observer near the outpost, and adjusting the fire.

The Americans’ counterbattery radar indicated that the firing position was less than 100 feet from a Pakistani Frontier Corps border post, several officers said.

The Americans contacted a Pakistani military officer who lives on Forward Operating Base Tillman and serves as a liaison between the two militaries. His answer cast the episode into gray.

“He called me back a few minutes later and said that border position is unoccupied and empty, and has been for years,” Colonel Bohnemann said. “That may be an absolutely true statement,” he added. “I don’t know.”"

12/3/2011 2:37:28 AM

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