Or why do they make roads (potholes), curbs and debris that destroys tires. It doesn't seem to make sense.

Everytime I hit one, I have to buy a new tire and when i get to the place they tell me that all my tires are severely worn and must be replaced asap or I risk death.

I took my flat to firestone and they quoted me 925 for 4 new tires.

I left and went to ford and they quoted me 20 to fix the flat tire.

/rant

10/22/2011 11:39:42 AM

10/22/2011 11:57:07 AM

quit yammering on the smartphone and pay attention to the road

10/22/2011 12:13:36 PM

If you don't want to replace all the tires tell them you don't want to replace all the tires. Use your eyes. If it's not showing cord, not bald, not dry-rotted, and you've got some tread left (google for what's considered a "safe" tread depth and then intepret using common sense) you're golden.

10/23/2011 1:05:38 PM

I went to a place that sold tires and they tried to sell me tires, wtf?!

10/23/2011 1:34:42 PM

why isn't this thread locked?

10/23/2011 5:36:49 PM

I wish tires were just solid blocks of rubber... just so I can do a really really long burnout without worrying about the tires blowing out.

10/23/2011 7:34:00 PM

^some of them are

10/23/2011 7:41:06 PM

the heat generated by a solid rubber tire would destroy it in minutes. this thread is shit, but I have wondered why there hasn't been any engineering in road surface material. you'd think there'd be some material science in making a grippy compound that doesn't wear tires nearly as much, though tire giants may buyout said research just to destroy it. I feel the same thing happens with battery tech - 40 years of AA batteries? wtf?

10/23/2011 9:25:35 PM

Where I'm from road construction is devolving. They take an existing asphalt road, spread pea gravel over it and sprinkle some tar on that shit. Motorcycles wreck for weeks until the excess gravel washes off, and it rides like a dirt road...which it is.

[Edited on October 23, 2011 at 10:49 PM. Reason : .]

10/23/2011 10:48:43 PM

Thread is worthless...

Quote :

"I left and went to ford and they quoted me 20 to fix the flat tire. "

Next time go to Discount Tire and they'll fix the flat for free.

10/23/2011 11:16:33 PM

I buy all my tires at the flea market on Capital Blvd.
At $25 a pop installed I can afford to shoot them and stab them when I get pissy.

10/23/2011 11:51:03 PM

Quote :

"the heat generated by a solid rubber tire would destroy it in minutes."

Not if we have a complex cooling system with water and vodka..

10/24/2011 12:12:08 AM

^4 fucking chipseal

10/24/2011 12:27:30 AM

Quote :

"this thread is shit, but I have wondered why there hasn't been any engineering in road surface material. you'd think there'd be some material science in making a grippy compound that doesn't wear tires nearly as much, though tire giants may buyout said research just to destroy it. I feel the same thing happens with battery tech - 40 years of AA batteries? wtf?"

You contradicted yourself. Thats exactly what this thread is about.

10/24/2011 6:48:08 PM

In an attempt to make this thread worth something...I have some questions about wheel and tire sizing

I bought a used trailer that has what looks like a bent wheel. I'm assuming this is the cause for the vibration I feel at around 50 and I'm going to need some new wheels.

The wheels are 5 lug, ~5" bolt spacing and measure ~15" from lip edge to lip edge. They look like some type of Chevy rally wheel. Thing is, the tire size on them is 175/65 R14. So, err, the 14 is the wheel size, right?

10/24/2011 7:45:03 PM

yes, they're 14"

they're probably 5 on 4.5", which is very common. if that's the case, you can easily find some 14" rims with that pattern. or you can go up to 15" if your fenders will clear them.



[Edited on October 24, 2011 at 8:38 PM. Reason : make sure you measure correctly]

10/24/2011 8:26:22 PM

what the hell kind of fucked up standard is that!?

10/25/2011 2:19:24 AM

that's just how it's measured

10/25/2011 8:58:55 PM

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"You contradicted yourself. Thats exactly what this thread is about."

I didn't contradict myself. OP is pure shit thus creating a shitty thread.

10/26/2011 9:55:18 AM

It makes more sense now... Since people will be measuring with a tape most likely. Hook it on one and measure to the middle of the other, which will be tangent to the tape at that point. I'm just used to seeing both inside, both outside, or center-center measurements (on things other than wheel hubs), and using calipers. I get it now though.

[Edited on October 26, 2011 at 6:55 PM. Reason : d]

10/26/2011 6:54:51 PM

Quote :

"Why do they make tires that can't withstand roads? "

They build things just long enough to last longer than the warranty that's provided so that you'll have to buy more tires. More tires = more revenue.

Also, they build cheap tires to get the price down. If I were about to sell a car and it had to pass inspection, I would by the cheapest things that "looks and felt" like tires, but not exactly perform like tires.

Quote :

"Or why do they make roads (potholes), curbs and debris that destroys tires."

Potholes are created by the natural movements in Earth, contraction and expansion from change of temperature, age, sun damage, wear and tear, sinkholes, plants, insects, etc... technology isn't advanced enough to last a long time without repair.

curbs are not supposed to be run into.
debris fall off trucks, blow into the street, etc... nobody can prevent all debris from ending up in the road..self explanatory.



There is such thing as a quality tire.

You can't judge a good tire by price.
You can't judge a good tire by testimonials. (unless you have enough experience to know when people are telling the truth)

The only way to find a good tire is by experience. When you find a tire that you like, keep buying that brand of tire until you are dissatisfied. Takes money to save money and you don't learn by making the same mistakes twice.

[Edited on October 26, 2011 at 7:13 PM. Reason : .]

10/26/2011 7:11:51 PM

Quote :

"They build things just long enough to last longer than the warranty that's provided so that you'll have to buy more tires. More tires = more revenue."

Wow. Just wow.

So I swiped a credit card today, like usual.

The screen becomes all black and reboots itself. Then the screen says "system halted, system tampered" exactly 1 year and 1 month after I purchased the machine.

The warranty only lasted for 1 year (which is weird for a credit card machine that usually lasts 20 years)

How goddamn convenient that it's an "unfixable error" and that they can't fix it and I'd have to buy a whole new terminal ($182)


Thing is, I've never once had a problem with the machine the whole time I've had it.

10/27/2011 11:47:32 PM

it went black because of the carlface of death. it was declined and its okay

10/28/2011 12:14:47 AM

I have to literally sit on the phone and give them the last 4 digits and total of all 86 credits cards in order to run the batch through. It'll take approximately 2 hours.

10/28/2011 1:05:28 AM

Quote :

"86ed credits cards "

10/28/2011 8:55:04 AM

I got a flat on 540 on the way to work this morning.

TIRE Y U NO GO FLAT YESTERDAY WHEN SUNNY AND 75?!

10/28/2011 4:46:01 PM

Quote :

"Where I'm from road construction is devolving. They take an existing asphalt road, spread pea gravel over it and sprinkle some tar on that shit. Motorcycles wreck for weeks until the excess gravel washes off, and it rides like a dirt road...which it is."

they do this all the time on the country roads around my mom, she's out in the sticks outside mt. airy. Beautiful country to ride around but I'll be damned if I take my bike out there while they're making sporadic dirt roads

10/28/2011 5:38:03 PM

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"technology isn't advanced enough to last a long time without repair."

not buying this.

Quote :

"curbs are not supposed to be run into"

which is exactly why they shouldn't surround the drving area with them. might as well surround every road with spike strips. It also makes you think when the law can charge you 50 dollars for not bringing your tires to the edge of hitting the curb. You have to come right up to it yet a tire whose outer edge can rub against pavement for thousands of miles with a ton of force but if the side of the tire so much as touches pavement, its going to lead to the destruction of the tire. All I'm asking for is one of these things:

A. make a tire that has legit sides that can rub against pavement
B. don't make sharp curbs at all (why do we need them??)
C. don't force me to get right near the curb when i drive

10/28/2011 9:04:58 PM

^you're either an idiot or a horrible driver.


Possibly both.

10/29/2011 1:04:01 AM

the curb is the boundary between vehicles and pedestrians. The middle zone is before you hit the curb. The lines are poisonous, as they say.

10/29/2011 1:33:58 AM

Quote :

"don't force me to get right near the curb when i drive"

No one is forcing you to do shit. Driving is a privilege and not a right. Stop complaining and if you can't stay in your lane, either downgrade the size of your vehicle, take a different route, and/or learn to drive better.

What the fuck man. This is what our society has become? Blame someone else for our troubles?

10/29/2011 2:00:46 AM

I did some research on the topic

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"In low-speed environments, curbs are effective at channelizing motor vehicle traffic. On higher speed roads, curbs should not be used because they can destabilize vehicles that strike them. A high-speed vehicle that hits a curb may actually turn towards the sidewalk, rather than be directed away from it. A vehicle that strikes a curb can be tripped into a rollover crash or vaulted into the air. The vehicle could be vaulted over a traffic barrier into the object the barrier is intended to shield. This is a reason why they are rarely used on rural or high speed roads. Where curb is used with a traffic barrier, the barrier should be close to or well behind the curb to reduce the chances of a vehicle going over the barrier.[1] Depending on the area and the distance between the travel lane and the edge of pavement, the white edge line that normally indicates the outside (shoulder) edge of the road may or may not be present where there is a curb. Reflectorized road marking material can also be applied to the curb itself to make it more conspicuous."

It actually turns out that curbs were integrated into road construction of many states by the tire lobby and now it has caught on and is used for aesthetic purposes. It adds a lot of cost to the road so isn't used in rural areas.

Basically we pay extra money to surround our roads with tire-destoryers so that these companies can make more money...as if our entire society revolving around the auto industry wasn't enough.

Smooth incline cubrs are now used in some areas because they look nice, deflect drainage and provide elevation for raised sidewalk all without destroying tires.

10/30/2011 1:17:18 PM

Quote :

"Basically we pay extra money to surround our roads with tire-destoryers so that these companies can make more money..."

You may want to seek mental help. There are a lot of conspiracies out there that are real, but "curbs being put into place for the purpose of destroying tires" isn't one of them.

11/1/2011 6:00:30 PM

Why else would they be the height and angle they are?

11/1/2011 9:51:26 PM

Without looking, I would guess that curbs form an aqueduct-like avenue to aid in storm water drainage.

All streets have a degree of tilt to them for rain to run off.

It's important that rainwater that trickles from the road to the curb is funneled toward the sewer drain.
Chemicals, oils, and other toxic elements that cars drip or exhaust onto the ground create a health hazard to all things living near the roadside if not properly controlled.

[Edited on November 1, 2011 at 11:07 PM. Reason : .]

11/1/2011 11:03:54 PM

None of that explains why the curbs are sharp as opposed to the smooth inclines that are being used in new designs (pareas that said fuck the tire companies)

11/1/2011 11:47:36 PM

Back in the day, drivers didn't run into curbs on purpose. It sound like curbs started jumping into the middle of the road when you're driving. You make it seem like you can't drive without hitting a curb.

The difference between you and I is personal responsibility. Everything you do wrong is someone else's fault...

[Edited on November 2, 2011 at 2:12 AM. Reason : .]

11/2/2011 2:10:30 AM

I've been driving for 16 years and only once did a hit a curb enough to damage a tire. And it was totally my fault for cutting the corner too sharply. As already stated curbs serve several important functions.

What are you going to complain about next, guard rails? Because let's be honest, what purpose do they serve? They damage body panels if you wander slightly off the road and make contact with them. Sounds like another conspiracy to me.

11/2/2011 8:49:55 AM

this thread is full of troll


psi, get rid of this shit.

[/executive order, just what the Dr. Ordered.]

11/2/2011 9:14:38 AM

Yeah, they are trolling me because they keep talking about things that are off-topic. Nobody has named a purpose a sharp curb serves. Smooth-incline cubrs fulfill the smae functions without putting safety and property at risk.

Not only do sharp curbs destroy tires in the long-term but they send cars into midair during collisions.

It is not about personal responsibility when the law requires you to park on the curb. If you are more than 6 inches away, you will be fined in most cities. Theres no way around rubbing against the curb from time to time if you frequently park on the street. Maybe you suburbia garage parkers don't understand what that is.

11/3/2011 10:07:41 PM

The law is not 6 inches.

11/4/2011 8:26:38 AM

in raleigh, it's 18

11/4/2011 8:56:34 AM

I don't drive like a tard cake. OP fails at driving. You're a girl aren't u

11/4/2011 10:19:56 AM

The curb serves not only as a channeling device for heavy rains to the nearest stormdrain, but also as a visual distinction between car-space and pedestrian space. Low profile curbs have been used in places that don't recieve a lot of rainfall per year, but they still delineate the pedestrian space from the car-space with color...

11/4/2011 11:50:28 PM

Quote :

"this thread is full of troll psi, get rid of this shit."

but it's full of hilarity.

11/5/2011 9:17:59 PM

Quote :

"I have wondered why there hasn't been any engineering in road surface material. you'd think there'd be some material science in making a grippy compound that doesn't wear tires nearly as much"

And watch taxes go up for covering roads with this new (so probably expensive) material!

11/6/2011 1:25:33 AM