What are leases going for, deer only and deer with other seasons? How much are you paying to duck hunt on bottomland hardwoods? I think we are underpricing our hunting leases, these are big tracts with nice deer, tons of turkey(nuisance to the farmers) and nice duck water, internal roads, club house, two bunk houses, skinning rack.

9/24/2011 11:23:30 PM

I thought this thread was about hunting "lease prices" for houses in Eastern, NC




Here is the North Carolina Wildlife Resources Commission:

It'll tell you everything you need to know

http://www.ncwildlife.org/Hunting/index.htm

9/24/2011 11:36:22 PM

Haha, that's like him asking how much he should rent out his house for, and you giving him a link to NC tenant laws.

9/25/2011 12:54:56 AM

check out nchuntandfish.com

they have plent of people up there that would know better.

9/25/2011 1:00:55 AM

^ lol I got banned from NChuntandfish.com

I used to work for a real estate agency that leased hunting property. Shit went from less than $10 to 0ver $50 per acre for hunting land. Honestly, it just depends on what people are willing to pay. Good duck hunting should increase the value tremendously, roads and sheds will also help. How much land? are there stands in place? how are the deer genetics? what have the waterfowl migrations been like?

9/25/2011 2:47:27 AM

For forestland with some ag fields I've heard anywhere from $5 an acre for people who know each other well up to about $30 an acre for something that's well managed (thinned and burned with openings/food plots). I think most of the typical decently managed woodland around here is more along the lines of $7-10.

I have no clue about bottomlands but I'd guess they were the same price as uplands unless you've got something like a nice swamp or pond.

If you've got good access and those other goodies then you aught to be a little higher. Especially if they start fucking up your paths...god I hate some hunters. There's always a few who want to sling mud and screw some shit up.

Do you have a forest management plan for your land? If not, you should call up the forest service and get them to look at it. That would also be a good time to pick their brains about hunting lease prices. They may or may not know but it won't hurt to ask.
They can also give you wildlife management ideas that can help you jack the price up.

[Edited on September 29, 2011 at 11:29 AM. Reason : ]

9/29/2011 11:24:44 AM

http://www.ncagr.gov/hunt/index.htm

not that active, but there's something that might help.

9/29/2011 1:48:30 PM

How east are we talking? What county?

9/29/2011 2:08:35 PM

My dad has appx 100 acres in northern scotland county

No water, structures, fields or openings other than a hi tension ROW through the middle

Goes for $4/acre

9/29/2011 3:22:12 PM

Personally, we don't charge the hunt club to hunt on our land. They carry their own insurance with us also named in the policy, post the land, deal with any trespassers, and notify me of any problems so I don't have to go out regularly and walk the lines. That worth any lease money that we'd charge.

It's kinda funny this topic popped up today because the representative from the hunt club is coming out this evening to handle the paper work. This is the first year that it's been on me to take care of it. My grandmother, who died this summer, use to handle all of it.

[Edited on September 29, 2011 at 3:46 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2011 3:41:54 PM

Quote :

"along the lines of $7-10"

that's what im getting for my land.

9/29/2011 6:06:29 PM

Bottombaby you should at least get enough rent to pay the property taxes.



I am in Bladen County, we are ramping up our management right now, I have a thinning/chipping crew cutting the pulp and fuel chips out of a tract on the cape fear river. We have been behind the curve on forest management, that is the driver on my efforts but if I can reap some wildlife benefits I want to price it accordingly.

9/29/2011 10:27:03 PM

Why?

The property would be mine with or without the hunt club hunting it. A majority of the leased land is farmland and not taxed as commercial property. The hunt club that I lease to is very respectful of my property and pays for all maintenance of roads/paths through my property after negotiating with the farmer who farms the land. They also police the area for me and deal with any and all nuisances -- which I'm very happy with because one of the parcels that I allow them to hunt includes the home that I live in and damned if I don't get irritated at 4 wheelers and other trespassers. And they also carry all liability insurance on the property, including myself.

9/29/2011 11:11:19 PM

you're screwing yourself out of income

and the insurance thing is irrelevant. pretty much any hunting lease agreement i've ever seen grants the landowner indemnity.

9/29/2011 11:17:47 PM

I'm not greedy. The land would sit there anyway. Allowing them to hunt does not affect me negatively, but benefits me. Even if that benefit negligible. I'm glad to have someone else upkeep the roads and paths, deal with trespassers, and just generally keep an eye on things. And even if I wouldn't be held liable for something that happened on my land, I don't want to allow an individual hunter without insurance to hunt my property because I wouldn't be guaranteed a source of funds if they sent a bullet through my house, etc.

[Edited on September 29, 2011 at 11:25 PM. Reason : .]

9/29/2011 11:24:39 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opportunity_cost

generally, the lease agreements also hold the hunters liable for any damages they cause. hunters are very territorial about their hunting leases and would do all that shit even if you were charging them. i can't think of any negatives associated with leasing the hunting privileges to your land.

pretty much anyone who's serious enough about hunting to spend money on a lease is gonna treat you and your land with respect. if they don't, they don't get to hunt it next year and any work they've put into that tract is lost.

[Edited on September 29, 2011 at 11:33 PM. Reason : afds]

9/29/2011 11:31:28 PM

In 50 some years, my grandmother has never charged them for hunting her land. I'm sure that some of it has to do with old fashioned neighborliness and some of it has to do with preserving a dying culture, etc. Now that it is mine, I don't see any sense in changing things up just to make a dollar. It doesn't really cost me anything to allow them to hunt and on top of everything else I've mentioned, they really kiss my ass.

9/29/2011 11:38:57 PM

economics 101 says it does cost you something to let them hunt for free

[Edited on September 29, 2011 at 11:41 PM. Reason : they kiss your ass b/c they know you should be charging them]

9/29/2011 11:40:15 PM

I know, but even if hunting didn't exist, the property would be mine. Charging them money to hunt doesn't affect my ownership of the property. It's not like I keep the land just to make money off of hunters. That's negligible in my eyes. Man, if I were queen some poachers could really make some money off of me.

9/29/2011 11:46:12 PM

we need more discussions about the vast amount of land bottombaby inherited, there aren't nearly enough

9/29/2011 11:54:02 PM

it's come up all of twice in totally relevant threads? so sue me along with everyone else who talks about anything in context more than once.

9/30/2011 12:04:22 AM

Myself and three other guys pay a total of 10 per acre for a 76 acre parcel in Franklin county. It's nearly all freshly logged pine forest and hardwood bottoms. We have deer and turkey on the property but no waterfowl. 10 per acre for the 4 of us for the year is really low in my opinion but I'm not complaining. I would truthfully pay 15 or 20.

9/30/2011 5:59:07 AM

I know where you're coming from, bottombaby. My grandmother didn't charge people to hunt on her land either. As long as they managed upkeep of the property and gave her some meat every year she was happy. I think it's just a cultural difference.

9/30/2011 7:58:43 AM

not so much a cultural thing as a supply and demand thing

back in the day, there was plenty of "public" land to hunt. it wasn't really public, like NCWRC gamelands, but lots of folks hunted it and no one really cared. as hunting got to be more about trophy hunting and less about feeding your family, folks started caring and posting the land. combine that with the fact that lots of land has been cleared for development, and suddenly folks are willing to pay. and they'll pay big bucks for the right land.

9/30/2011 11:39:49 AM

My hubby used to be part of a club in the Green Swamp (Columbus County). I think the price is around $750. If I remember correctly it was near 1000 acres. He hasn't joined in two years because the price went up (less members jacked the price). To him a few weekends out wasn't worth the money.

10/1/2011 3:19:10 AM

Dear bottombaby,
It is not in any way bad to use your assets to generate income.
Respectfully Yours,
Rich People Not Poor People

10/1/2011 3:09:41 PM

but its always been done a different way! And it saves her from walkin' the line

10/1/2011 3:12:43 PM

I can respect having other priorities than money and I feel what bottombaby is saying. However I still wonder if it is really as much of a mutually beneficial relationship as she thinks. People will totally kiss your ass while walking all over you when it is financially beneficial to do so. That doesn't mean they're not joking on you when you're not around. If I were in that position I would not feel bad about giving them the bill for property taxes. Whether we like it or not, we live in a world where you have to pay to play. People are used to that and a small fee to hunt, split among friends, probably isn't going to run anyone away.

[Edited on October 1, 2011 at 3:23 PM. Reason : l]

10/1/2011 3:18:13 PM

All depends on what it is and where it is.

In eastern NC, good deer hunting land with bottomland hardwoods, some crop fields and such will typically be around $8-$15 per acre. If it's managed with lots of nice stands and other stuff the price can run as much as $20 or so per acre. A lodge/house or RV hookups of course will also add to the price.

10/2/2011 6:50:30 PM