http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-isat-answers-20101018,0,308277.storyhttp://www.parentdish.com/2010/10/18/no-child-left-behind-because-tests-are-dumbed-down/?icid=main%7Cmain%7Cdl7%7Csec3_lnk2%7C178705
10/19/2010 2:38:25 PM
UPDATE - Schools and Hospitals are bad...Breast Cancer Standards Not Being Met in Chicago http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local-beat/Breast-Cancer-Standards-Not-Being-Met-in-Chicago-105428583.html
10/21/2010 10:05:35 AM
I had a 63 yr old black female last week that came in because she could no longer see. This was her FIRST eye exam in her life. Simply amazing. Best corrected was 20/400 in one eye and Hand motion in the other, she has end stage glaucoma that any 20 dollar walmart OD would have picked up and treated, but in this case she will spend the next 20 something yrs legally blind when this could have been prevented had she gone to a doctor. Sad, she had the money, im not sure if it was a fear of doctors or just ignorance.Ive only seen 3 people go blind from glaucoma, all black. One was in memphis in school and he refused to take his drops bc he wanted disability. (amazing) The other was here, was diagnosed with glaucoma and treated while in jail (its free), got out for 8 yrs, didnt get checked or take medicine, got back into jail and wanted me to fix his eye. (luckily, the other is working well). And she would be my third. Glaucoma occurs a lot more in minorities, esp blacks, however its treatable/preventable.as a whole, that group just doesnt seem to take care of themselves. Of course you could point to many reasons, I think education would probably be the most accurate.[Edited on October 21, 2010 at 11:51 AM. Reason : .]
10/21/2010 11:29:47 AM
^? I don't understand why you're talking.Norrin Radd's article was about how facilities in Chicago that serve black women provide less and lower quality services. It had nothing to do with this notion that black people don't take care of themselves.On the business of glaucoma...black people for whatever reason are waaay more likely to get glaucoma in the first place. So it's not surprising that all your patients that went blind from it were black. Basically, your little anecdote says more about glaucoma than it does about black people. Furthermore, it's not called the "sneak thief of sight" for nothing. If you don't get routine eye exams (lots of people of all races don't), then yeah, it can creep up on you before you know it.If you wanna talk about black people not going to the doctor, we can do that. But you gotta come with more than a few stories about glaucoma. And you should probably start a new thread to do it in.
10/21/2010 1:18:27 PM
I was explaining my experience with one aspect of these type of "gaps". As long as I can remember they have been trying to explain why there are these differences. It is not just in chicago but a nationally, and just not with cancer either.Here is one article talking about chicago compared nationally.http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2009-12-18/news/0912170917_1_disparities-health-care-health-insurance"Nationally, the racial gap got worse from 1990 to 2005 for six of the 15 health indicators researchers studied.""While it is important to measure an urban city like Chicago against national numbers," Benjamin said, "the national statistics include lots of places where some of the challenges of racial disparity don't exist."Now to address the article directly. One of the factors for the article was being notified on the same day of abnormality. While nice, it does not affect outcome.I suppose you missed me saying that "Glaucoma occurs a lot more in minorities, esp blacks,"I think its important to find out what can be done to "fix" the gap, but in my last case money, access were not factors. My patient in memphis had free health care and free medicine, just chose not to take it. Glaucoma, unlike ARMD, is something we can control very well and hopefully give them their sight and they never realized they had a problem, but it requires action on the patients part.
10/21/2010 2:08:29 PM
^Racis...nah, too easy.
10/21/2010 2:22:32 PM
^one of the first things we have to overcome to address the issue is being able to actually talk about it without the fear of being called racist.Here is a good website talking about some differences.http://www.closingthehealthgap.org/What/index.html[Edited on October 21, 2010 at 2:41 PM. Reason : .]
10/21/2010 2:28:59 PM
OMG BLACK PEOPLE DONT GIVE A SHIT AND THEY JUST WANT DISABILITY MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!1Signed,"Doctor" In-about-an-Hour(TM)
10/21/2010 2:47:04 PM
I never said that at all. Certainly ONE patient in memphis fit that discription. I do get all sorts wanting me to fill out their disability forms though. But as a group you can look at the statistics and draw certain conclusions. Like I said earlier, I think education is the key to shrink the gap. Or just lower overall health care to everyone...its worked so well in schools. (joking)that continues to be so funny joe, keep it up.Sorry to hijack your thread Norrin, i wont post anymore in it.
10/21/2010 3:30:27 PM
No problem - you actually circled back to topic with the joke about the schools...since that was the topic of the first post.
10/21/2010 5:44:01 PM
Why is eyedrb lecturing us about how to close the health gap?Dude blathers about black people dying of glaucoma and comes to the conclusion that "that group just doesn't seem to take care of themselves" as if it's some kind of mysterious thing...And then he posts info about health disparities. I thought he would post about something he's doing to close the health gap, but nope, just a comprehensive list of health disparities that everybody already knows about.Do eye doctors go to medical school?
10/21/2010 11:06:51 PM
no. they do not. optometrists are like chiropractors. you get a four year degree in anything, then pay for some specialized training at a special "optometry school". then they get a job at LensCrafters where they spend their days shining lights in peoples eyes, interpreting the results of standard vision tests, and pass out contacts and bifocals.real doctors, ophthalmologists, are actual M.D.s ... they are the ones who go to an AMA accredited medical school for four years, do a residency for four years, as well as additional education and training in their specialization. they are the ones who diagnose, prescribe and operate.[Edited on October 22, 2010 at 10:42 AM. Reason : ]
10/22/2010 10:33:36 AM
^^AHA, going blind, not dying.^I knew it! I mean, he just doesn't talk like any doctor I know. I only know a few, but none of them make contributions or observations as mundane/pointless as this guy. And none of them are afraid of being called racist.
10/22/2010 12:40:07 PM
Not a good time to live in Chicago...Survey Shows Rise in New Antibiotic-Resistant Bacteria in Chicago Areahttp://www.healthcanal.com/infections/11860-Survey-Shows-Rise-New-Antibiotic-Resistant-Bacteria-Chicago-Area.html
10/22/2010 4:24:38 PM
you sir, are a fucking idiot.antibiotic resistant bacteria strains are a global health crisis, and are a problem for every single hospital in the nation.
10/22/2010 4:29:49 PM
yes, as i'm sure the...
10/22/2010 5:02:28 PM
10/28/2010 3:17:39 PM