http://msn.foxsports.com/collegefootball/story/jason-whitlock-expose-ncaa-not-reggie-bush-072210Thank you Jessie Jackson for once again inspiring pure blatant stupidity combined with racism.
7/23/2010 9:28:00 AM
7/23/2010 10:43:56 AM
His analogy is a bit over the top, but it's true.NCAA college football makes billions off the backs of Black athletes. There's no denying that.
7/23/2010 10:50:05 AM
i think reggie bush got paid a whole lot better than kunta kintebut then again, whitlock is not trying to make sense, he's trying to get people talking about his column
7/23/2010 11:01:47 AM
The funny thing is that 99% of the people reading this have no fucking clue who Kunta Kinte is.
7/23/2010 11:04:03 AM
God get the fuck out of sports talk
7/23/2010 11:05:35 AM
What an insightful post! Tell me more...
7/23/2010 11:11:40 AM
you do know the poster child for college football for the past 3 years was a white guy, right?
7/23/2010 11:18:38 AM
Jason Whitlock is a fucking dumbfuck who just tries to stir up shiti remember he was guest hosting on Rome a few years back when Ball St. was undefeated at the time, and he evidently either graduated from there or some shit. anyhow, he was going ON AND ON about how Nate Davis deserved the heisman and how Ball St. should be in the running for the title game and how it was criminal that noone respected Ball State blah blah blahand then I believe Ball St lost their conference championship game.[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM. Reason : he literally took a whole hour on a national show to talk his bullshit]
7/23/2010 11:20:13 AM
No I've never heard of Tebow
7/23/2010 11:24:58 AM
I don't disagree that the NCAA makes a shit load of money off college athletes, specifically college football.I don't however think this is a race issue.I don't know the percentages of players by race, but football has always seemed like one of the sports that has about half black and half white players, give or take.For every Reggie Bush or Calvin Johnson that the NCAA makes money off of, theres a Tim Tebow and a Colt McCoyAlso who is Kunta Kinte? Are you talking about Tobe? Tiger? Kobe? Tobe?]
7/23/2010 11:33:32 AM
Well, I was just referring to the actual Kunte Kinte.
7/23/2010 11:48:17 AM
7/23/2010 11:50:13 AM
^^the one who was forced to take the slave name of Toby in the book/movie Roots? Did you not get the Toby reference? Do YOU even know who Kunta Kinte was?
7/23/2010 11:52:58 AM
College athletes get free educations. Only a small portion of athletes ever go professional, so the education (anywhere from 40K - 400k), plus the degree they will take when they go to get a job is more than enough compensation if you ask me.
7/23/2010 12:13:21 PM
7/23/2010 12:14:48 PM
god called out ITT
7/23/2010 1:49:13 PM
I'm not calling anyone outI'm just saying that making a statement like "The NCAA treats black athletes like slaves and profits from them" is just as moronic as it sounds. The majority of NCAA athletes are NOT black and no one treats anyone like a slave. I am so god damn sick of the fucking race card.
7/23/2010 1:55:44 PM
racist-ass clownsorracist ass-clowns?I like #2.
7/23/2010 2:12:30 PM
agreedthank you #2
7/23/2010 2:30:56 PM
I think most of this column is sensationalist bullshit, but he does make one interesting point. The athletes in revenue sports, when you combine basketball and football, are going to be predominately black at most schools. The athletes in non-revenue sports are, with the exception of perhaps track & field and women's basketball, overwhelmingly white. (Assuming we're not talking about a HBCU or something similar here). So while the whole slaves analogy is a way over the top playing of the race card, it could be said that the funding for many of the white athletes is made on the sweat of the black athlete. I'd never really considered that before.
7/23/2010 2:33:19 PM
7/23/2010 2:33:22 PM
7/23/2010 2:40:01 PM
7/23/2010 2:44:17 PM
^ 2 of those guys are already making millions, the other one will. I feel sympathy for the 3-4 years of college they werent making millions.
7/23/2010 2:51:22 PM
If you're good at something, why do it for free?Football is the only profession in this country when you can't get paid for something right out of high school or one year removedIts really a silly system, but there's no clear solution in sight
7/23/2010 2:55:05 PM
trying to keep 18 year olds from going to the league and getting slaughtered by Ray Lewis-types. Thats not a fear in any other sport.
7/23/2010 2:57:52 PM
What you're talking about is physical maturity and development, and that is a fear in almost every sport.[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 2:59 PM. Reason : x]
7/23/2010 2:58:52 PM
its not a silly system at all99% of high school athletes aren't physically big enough by a mile to play in the NFL let alone college. Two years is absolutely perfect for development. Look at how many people get tossed out of the NFL every season. Allowing people out of high school would be a flat out joke. No one would EVER make it on a roster.
7/23/2010 2:59:16 PM
7/23/2010 3:02:17 PM
The biggest issue that Slave would need to come up with a solution for in order for a system that he is advocating to work is a sort of development league. You are right, 99.9% of kids out of high school won't be able to physically match up with NFL players. There will always be genetic freaks that can those are who Slave's argument is focused on. So what happens with those kids who theoretically get drafted and have no business being on a roster? That is the biggest issue.It's also not an issue unique to football, as stillrolling was saying. Hockey and baseball each of deep developmental leagues so a pitcher, for instance, doesn't go from throwing 85 innings in high school to 200 innings in the majors. Instead he adds about 25 innings each year in the developmental leagues because the maturing body at that age simply can't perform at the major league level.[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 3:06 PM. Reason : V ok, well there are those who advocate that an age-limit should not be allowed]
7/23/2010 3:04:49 PM
I'm not arguing for high school football players to be allowed to go right to the NFLThey would mostly get crushed, save for freaks like Julio Jones and Jackson JeffcoatI'm saying that while they're in college earning millions for their school, they should get a piece of the pie[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 3:06 PM. Reason : x]
7/23/2010 3:05:37 PM
7/23/2010 3:07:14 PM
this thread makes my head hurt
7/23/2010 3:13:47 PM
The NCAA makes nothing off of you and me. We pay money to get a degree that enables us to get decent jobs afterwards. While we're in school, we're completely anonymous, and provide no value to the university as individuals. Just 30,000 douchebags in the same place at the same time.While these players are in school, from the moment they step on the field at 18 years old, they are bringing in revenue to the school in the form of ticket sales, apparel, TV rights, etc. They are providing value to the school, and they are being compensated for pennies on the dollar for that value. The fat cat administrators and coaches are reaping the rewards of these kid's labor while they hardly get anything in return. Its really a glorified sweatshop.I know it prepares them for the NFL, I know they enjoy playing the game...but it doesn't make sense for other people to get rich off of their efforts, while many players are still driving around 93 Neons and eating at Taco Bell.
7/23/2010 3:15:38 PM
^ if they don't feel like we are helping them then they shouldn't come to school. most of them aren't stars. most of them don't go pro. what they do receive is a degree; something many of them wouldn't get if it wasn't for our university. even arguing this is stupid. the ones who do go to the pro's get better at school through the coaches we hire and pay for. they NEVER give money back to the school and most feel as if they did us a favor for going there.
7/23/2010 3:21:58 PM
They did do the school a favor by going there.120 schools wanted Terrell Pryor. He went to Ohio State. He did them a favor.
7/23/2010 3:24:46 PM
Does anyone else find it ironic that Slave Famous is arguing that the NCAA is a glorified sweat shop?[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 3:26 PM. Reason : lol]and even if it is, which I absolutely do not agree that it is, what does ANY of that have to do with race[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 3:27 PM. Reason : nothing]
7/23/2010 3:25:14 PM
Never once did I mention raceand my name precedes me
7/23/2010 3:29:09 PM
^^^ look i apologize for using the statement. that being said yeah and we gave him 30,000 dollars a year and a future in the NFL. I think its a fair statement that says he wouldn't have done anything if he went straight to the pro's. Hell I am still unconvinced in college. So no, OSU is doing him a favor.[Edited on July 23, 2010 at 3:32 PM. Reason : ']
7/23/2010 3:31:50 PM
good point
7/23/2010 3:33:38 PM
7/23/2010 3:34:27 PM
Jim Tressel and Gene Smith wipe their ass with $30,000. They make that in the first half of their first game of the season. Its like being in sales and selling $5,000,000 worth of product one year, then getting a commission check for $30,000. It wouldn't exactly make you feel all warm and fuzzy.And of course its not the same ratio's in college...have you ever seen Creighton vs Wichita State?
7/23/2010 3:37:37 PM
Also despite what you may believe if you grew up in North Carolina, college football, not basketball, is the NCAA's major cash cow
7/23/2010 3:48:19 PM
Right, which is why Kansas was in danger of being left in the dust in the proposed conference shift.People valued Texas Tech football over Kansas basketball.That should tell you all you need to know.
7/23/2010 3:49:46 PM
you're wrong there. football is the big conferences and schools cash cow. the NCAA makes its bank from basketball. remember, the NCAA doesn't have a football tournament.
7/23/2010 4:15:59 PM
7/23/2010 4:20:12 PM
the NCAA doesn't make shit off of football... the multi-billion TV agreement for the NCAA Basketball Tournament is what gets them the $$$$
7/23/2010 4:21:49 PM
Schools and Conferences make money from footballThe NCAA makes money from basketballSeparate entities
7/23/2010 4:26:52 PM
iop1
7/23/2010 4:27:35 PM