http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7174851/

Owner Patrick O'Leary. Owns a $1.4 million dollar home and obviously a lot of dominos franchises. Says the delivery employee of the Knightdale store owes him $60 in stolen funds when he was beaten and mugged. The reason: We tell them not to carry anymore than $20 in change.

Good move, major asshat. This is going to cost you a LOT more in negative publicity.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2010 4:18:07 PM

wow. what an asshole

3/5/2010 4:20:10 PM

While this treatment is wrong, the owners own success and wealth has absolutely nothing to do with it.

3/5/2010 4:31:32 PM

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""No final decision has been made yet, but there is a companywide policy that says drivers are not supposed to carry more than $20 on them at any time," storeowner Pat O'Leary said Friday. O'Leary said the policy is in place to help prevent drivers from becoming robbery targets. He's waiting until the police investigation is complete before deciding whether the money has to be repaid."

3/5/2010 4:33:26 PM

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"companywide policy that says drivers are not supposed to carry more than $20 on them at any time"

It's not like the local owner told him that, it's Dominos everywhere.

Patrick O'Leary?

Big whoop! Wanna fight about it?

3/5/2010 4:36:07 PM

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"While this treatment is wrong, the owners own success and wealth has absolutely nothing to do with it."

The hell it doesnt. Thats flat out greed.

If the dude broke a policy, then fire him. But charging him for a lousy $60 after he has been mugged and beaten in just ridiculous and flat out greedy.

3/5/2010 4:36:42 PM

Good thing pizza guys don't accept cash for payment

3/5/2010 4:37:45 PM

The owner wins the idiot award of the year, regardless of the investigation. When WRAL calls you, and asks you about making the individual pay back $60, you say "Absolutely he wont have to pay it back." This guy must have been handed money, because it looks like he has an IQ of 40.

3/5/2010 4:39:59 PM

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"If the dude broke a policy, then fire him. But charging him for a lousy $60 after he has been mugged and beaten in just ridiculous and flat out greedy."

Maybe he wants the money because it goes to pay for other employees salaries, health insurance, unemployment, and store overhead.

3/5/2010 4:40:20 PM

how the hell is a pizza delivery guy expected to always have less than $20 on him? Just one deilvery could put him over $20...and they don't just go to one house each run.

3/5/2010 4:41:22 PM

How's he going to fire a guy who quit, anyway?

3/5/2010 4:41:53 PM

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"Maybe he wants the money because it goes to pay for other employees salaries, health insurance, unemployment, and store overhead."

$60 goes VERY far towards each of those, I'm sure.

In fact, I'm sure it goes farther than the money he'd have earned from the business that's now lost.

3/5/2010 4:42:05 PM

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"how the hell is a pizza delivery guy expected to always have less than $20 on him? "

Because you can leave the rest of your money locked in your car.

3/5/2010 4:42:26 PM

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"In fact, I'm sure it goes farther than the money he'd have earned from the business that's now lost."

This is true.

3/5/2010 4:42:50 PM

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"how the hell is a pizza delivery guy expected to always have less than $20 on him? Just one deilvery could put him over $20...and they don't just go to one house each run."

Its NOT possible. what happens when they need to deliver pizza to a party? "Uhm, excuse me sir, I can only sell you one pizza at a time... I'll bring the rest one at a time during the next 2 hours"

Alk: You're an idiot

3/5/2010 4:43:15 PM

3/5/2010 4:43:48 PM

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"Because you can leave the rest of your money locked in your car."

Yeah, we know criminals won't touch you in the car! Its a magical safety area. I also hear it protects you from lightening...

3/5/2010 4:44:20 PM

Hey man, I just answered the question.

3/5/2010 4:45:15 PM

Break Company Rule

Lose Company $

Must Repay Company $

pretty simple.

3/5/2010 4:48:42 PM

Simple if you have no common sense or ability to do basic math...

3/5/2010 4:49:35 PM

call me crazy but i think getting beaten and mugged is outside the usual scope of "break company rules"

especially when it seems nearly impossible for a pizza delivery person to always have $20 or less on them. i just don't even understand that policy AT ALL.

3/5/2010 4:52:02 PM

he also isnt going to lose shit for business. People are going to order their pizza, get it delivered like normal. They aren't going to to through the trouble of making sure to not call the exact one(s) that this guy owns if its the one that will deliver.

In short, enjoy getting mad at the mean rich guy. rawr rawr, etc

3/5/2010 4:53:43 PM

Yeah, from seeing comments online from carriers, they are saying it is a policy that is simply an 'ass covering' policy for the franchise. They state there is no way to comply with that.

^ Think again... You have no appreciation of the damage a story like this can do. If even 10 families decide not to order dominos for the next few months, it cost him a lot more money than what this was worth.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:54 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2010 4:53:53 PM

the domino's in knightdale was the one where the manager was beaten to death a couple of months ago. i wonder if it was the same one?
http://www.ncwanted.com/ncwanted_home/story/6774882/

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:56 PM. Reason : ]

3/5/2010 4:56:13 PM

and he was attacked and robbed on the job

jesus

i feel like the owner is the worst kind of person

3/5/2010 4:57:13 PM

I can almost guarantee this guy is already begging WRAL to run a revision stating he wont ask the guy to pay back the money.

3/5/2010 4:57:19 PM

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"Coincidentally, the Domino's Pizza where Johnson worked is the same store where Kenneth "Kenny" Ring was found beaten Jan. 9. He died from his injuries two days later."

3/5/2010 4:57:53 PM

^



[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2010 4:58:32 PM

Yeah, they run a great tight at that Knightdale store...

wonder if it is against company policy to get killed on the job, as well.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 4:59 PM. Reason : .]

3/5/2010 4:58:39 PM

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"Lemme tell you how we bout to get paid We gonna order pizza and when we see the driver We gonna stick the 25 up in his face Lets ride, stepping outside like warriors Head to the notorious Southside One weapon to the four of us Hiding in the corridor until we see the dominos car headlights White boy in the wrong place at the right time Soon as the car door open up he mine We roll up quick and put the pistol to his nose By the look on his face he probably shitted in his clothes You know what this is It's a stick up Gimme the do' from your pickups You ran into the wrong niggaz We running down the block hot with these pizza boxes So we split up and met back at the apartment Hell yeah (yo ain't you hungry my nigga?) Hell yeah (you wanna get paid my nigga?) Hell yeah (ain't you tired of starving my nigga?) Hell yeah (well lets ride then) Hell yeah, Hell yeah "

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 5:00 PM. Reason : I blame rap music]

3/5/2010 5:00:07 PM

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"how the hell is a pizza delivery guy expected to always have less than $20 on him? Just one deilvery could put him over $20...and they don't just go to one house each run."

well, considering they take your credit or debit card number when you call b4 the pizza is made and the run is delivered (in which a tip can be added on the signed receipt when your driver arrives), it's possible that the driver does deliver one cash paid pizza and multiple CC paid pizzas in one delivery run.

plus the policy may read "$20 to make change when you exit the vehicle" or something more elaborate than what his quote implies

3/5/2010 5:06:25 PM

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"The hell it doesnt. Thats flat out greed."

lol? You can't be serious...Are you going to feel differently if the store owner was broke and had declared bankruptcy? No. Like i said...his wealth has nothing to do with it. But if you want to get into it, store policy is very clear and $60 > $20

3/5/2010 5:13:35 PM

There is something more to this story that is not out yet.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 5:44 PM. Reason : s]

3/5/2010 5:44:44 PM

^Is that a hypothesis or a fact?

3/5/2010 5:52:48 PM

made it onto the consumerist
http://consumerist.com/2010/03/burgled-dominos-delivery-guy-ordered-to-pay-back-money-stolen-from-him.html

3/5/2010 6:15:03 PM

Don't have enough facts.

If he was robbed of $60 then the owner is retarded.

If he was robbed of $150, and $60 what basically what if left over after deducing the cost of the runs, the $20, and the mileage and tips for the night, then I have more sympathy for the owner. If your drivers are being robbed with that much on them the rest of your drivers are bigger targets. If he stays on I could see making him pay back the other $60 over time.

That said, the guy quit, so as an owner you gotta just let it go.

3/5/2010 6:29:55 PM

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"If your drivers are being robbed with that much on them the rest of your drivers are bigger targets."

So what you're saying is that after the first one goes, the rest will surely fall......like dominos.

3/5/2010 6:37:42 PM

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"O'Leary said the policy is in place to help prevent drivers from becoming robbery targets."

he broke company rule, he got robbed, end of story, end of thread

why do people keep wanting to blame others before admitting their own mistakes.
the fact is a lot of robbers now are looking at pizza delivery boys as targets cause of this idiot.
he not only should pay the money back but also go to domino's jail.

3/5/2010 6:40:27 PM

isnt this exactly like the time at 2am when i first got out of college and was working the late shift at steak n shake and a crew of about 20 kids cleaned the place out when i went back to make their 2nd round of shakes

they took the silverware, the plates, the glasses, their food, and never paid a dime

do you think i worried for one second if i was responsible for that? nope, and honestly i half expected the owner to argue with me about it

3/5/2010 6:44:12 PM

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"If the dude broke a policy, then fire him. But charging him for a lousy $60 after he has been mugged and beaten in just ridiculous and flat out greedy."

Rich people gotta stay rich.

3/5/2010 6:55:37 PM

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"lol? You can't be serious...Are you going to feel differently if the store owner was broke and had declared bankruptcy? No. Like i said...his wealth has nothing to do with it. But if you want to get into it, store policy is very clear and $60 > $20 "

The point is that the store policy is obviously dumb, and not meant to be enforced. It’s meant to deter would-be thieves from targeting drivers because they aren’t supposed to have more than $20.

But anyone with more than 2 brain cells (which excludes plenty of criminals) is going to know that it’s impossible for this to actually be the case.

The fact that the manager is so adamant to the media that he’s going to make good on this might all be part of the show Dominoes has to put on, but if he actually tries to collect on it from the employee, that IS very dumb, and pure greed.

Jeez, if you would have just thought ahead 1 more step, you would have realized this.

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"Break Company Rule Lose Company $ Must Repay Company $ pretty simple. "

I hope you realize that it’s not actually that simple.

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 7:23 PM. Reason : ]

3/5/2010 7:22:41 PM

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"Owns a $1.4 million dollar home and obviously a lot of dominos franchises."

well, i'm sure he didn't get that way by giving it all away.

its still an asshole move on the owner's part.

3/5/2010 7:53:56 PM

Even if the owner was dirt poor, it'd be a dick move to ask his employee who just got mugged to pay $60. He probably gets paid minimum wage.

The fact that the owner has a $1.4 million home just makes hims a SUPER DICK.

3/5/2010 7:57:28 PM

cancel thread

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7176557/

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"Domino's driver won't have to repay stolen money"

3/5/2010 7:57:33 PM

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"The point is that the store policy is obviously dumb, and not meant to be enforced. It’s meant to deter would-be thieves from targeting drivers because they aren’t supposed to have more than $20. But anyone with more than 2 brain cells (which excludes plenty of criminals) is going to know that it’s impossible for this to actually be the case. The fact that the manager is so adamant to the media that he’s going to make good on this might all be part of the show Dominoes has to put on, but if he actually tries to collect on it from the employee, that IS very dumb, and pure greed. Jeez, if you would have just thought ahead 1 more step, you would have realized this."

Like I already said twice now. This is a dick move by the store owner, his personal wealth and success is meaningless in this situation and bares no weight in judging if this is indeed a dick move or not.

Its a dick move because the kid got mugged and was asked to repay the money back to the store NOT that the kid was asked to give a multi-millionare $60 out of his own pocket.

3/5/2010 8:02:18 PM

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"cancel thread http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/7176557/ Quote : "Domino's driver won't have to repay stolen money" "

Just as I predicted, the asshat reversed course as quickly as possible when he saw the consequences. Damage already done.

3/5/2010 8:08:04 PM

obviously nobody read the entire article, the original story stated that the owner was waiting for the police investigation to make a final decision, and was just enforcing/making the employee aware of company policy.

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""No final decision has been made yet, but there is a companywide policy that says drivers are not supposed to carry more than $20 on them at any time," storeowner Pat O'Leary said Friday. O'Leary said the policy is in place to help prevent drivers from becoming robbery targets. He's waiting until the police investigation is complete before deciding whether the money has to be repaid."

i'm sure more than one employee has claimed he was robbed to keep some money. the fact that he came back and immediately quit, while understandable, could be seen as slightly suspicious.

3/5/2010 9:15:47 PM

^As someone who used to deliver pizza, I can confirm that this is a legit concern. I only did it for one summer, and during that time 3 employees (out of about 12) got fired. One for directly stealing (he was overcharging customers and pocketing the money), and two for falsifying their time cards, which is guess is just indirect stealing. While I would be inclined to believe someone who told me he'd been robbed, if I worked at that pizza place much longer I'd probably start to doubt the sincerity of everyone around me.

I also know someone who got shot delivering pizza, but I'm pretty sure he didn't have to pay any money back.

3/5/2010 9:33:10 PM

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"While this treatment is wrong, the owners own success and wealth has absolutely nothing to do with it."

3/5/2010 10:02:22 PM

no one reads 49

[Edited on March 5, 2010 at 10:24 PM. Reason : ]

3/5/2010 10:24:02 PM