So... Where could I go about finding a BP-ZE crate engine (shortblock preferred)? Any places anyone can recommend? I've contacted Japan Direct but haven't received a response yet.

I know this engine was found in the following cars:
'91-'96 Ford Escort GT
'90-'94 Mazda Protege LX

8/27/2009 9:54:39 AM

I think it's time to cut your losses and get rid of the MX-3.

8/27/2009 10:42:48 AM

Why do you assume it's for the mx3 huh buddy? HUH?!




































yeah, it would be Well, I figure it's about a grand for a complete rebuild. It doesn't need it right now. Compression has been fine and everything runs normal. It just started showing signs of wear, which I guess is to be expected from a 160k miles on a 17 year old mazda engine. I really want to get my hands dirty and open me up an engine and tinker with it. Bonus points for me because:
1) I already have a car, so I don't have to pay for a junker
2) I know this car's history, what's been done to it, etc
3) Pretty simple engine. Parts are available and inexpensive
4) I wouldn't get shit if I sold it.
5) For the money I'd put in to rebuild a lowly 1.6L 88hp 4 cylinder, I can probably find a BP shortblock, maybe spend a little more and freshen it up, and have a 1.8L 130hp 4 cylinder.
6) Swapping is a direct fit with the only required modification of adding 2 more wires to the stock wiring harness. It's not going to be anywhere as complicated as a v8 swap in a Porsche...

Besides, I like what Quinn has done with his turbo'd civic, and I've contemplated inviting him over for a boost party

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 11:58 AM. Reason : .]

8/27/2009 11:55:21 AM

make it a threesome with my GSR.

then we could rule these streets!

8/27/2009 12:12:22 PM

HELL YEAH! Now that's the spirit!

8/27/2009 12:14:56 PM

hahahahaha a hat trick of b00sted shitboxs

8/27/2009 12:35:24 PM

how much would it cost to boost my engine? I don't think I need any internal work, since I've got a 9.7:1 compression ratio

8/27/2009 1:06:55 PM

mazdaspeed motorsports....

8/27/2009 2:00:54 PM

dont boost a mazda. boost a honda much more info out on 'em

8/27/2009 2:21:17 PM

Mazdaspeed motorsports? I'm looking to spend no more than $1000 on either a fully rebuilt shortblock or $300 for a used shortblock. I just haven't found any BP motors in the local salvage yards

I'd imagine Mazdaspeed being expensive, but I'll give them a shot...

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 2:22 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2009 2:22:36 PM

so the bp block was in the miata and the 323gtx. the 323gtx was factory boosted with forged internals.

8/27/2009 3:52:49 PM

Per Japan Direct:

Quote :

"Thank you very much for your inquiry, but we are sorry that we cannot help you with this request, as we do not have access to this engine or swap. Good luck with your search and let us know if we can help with another request in the future. Johnnie "

FUUUUUUUCK. I guess it's salvage yard hopping time

However, there is irony; he has the same last name as me

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 8:37 PM. Reason : .]

8/27/2009 8:37:21 PM

i've learned to stick to 1 head ache project at a time

8/27/2009 9:34:19 PM

^

8/27/2009 9:43:33 PM

^ ^

8/27/2009 10:04:35 PM

^^^

[Edited on August 27, 2009 at 10:07 PM. Reason : ]

8/27/2009 10:07:36 PM

get a BP Kia 1.8L

those 94-97 sephias are everywhere totaled out with low mileage motors

i sold an entire car (97 kia sephia) with 90k on it for $600 a while back

8/27/2009 11:25:20 PM

why are you wasting money on this again? seriously, just give me the money. i can't waste it any fucking worse than this

even on blow and hookers.

8/27/2009 11:29:49 PM

blow and hookers is never a waste of money.

8/27/2009 11:55:00 PM

^bingo

8/27/2009 11:57:04 PM

^^ That's helping out the economy. Obama would approve of this type of spending...

Quote :

"why are you wasting money on this again? seriously, just give me the money. i can't waste it any fucking worse than this"

Wait what? How is this a "waste"? I want to use this semi-unfortunate opportunity to actually learn and get hands on experience working on car engines. This turn around would cost no more than $2k. I'm not rich by any means, but I can afford $2k on a worthwhile experience. Plenty of people take a week vacation in NYC spending $2k (or more) in shopping and living expenses and say, "Hey, that was awesome." I guess anytime anyone spends money on something they want it's a waste...


abbradsh

Thanks... I've found quite a few Sephia's... Now that I know I can source an engine easily, I'll have to plan out how I'm going to make this all work.




[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 8:35 AM. Reason : .]

[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 8:45 AM. Reason : .]

8/28/2009 8:28:39 AM

THROW AN LT1 IN THAT BITCH

REAR

WHEEL

DRIVE

8/28/2009 8:30:16 AM

^

[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 9:00 AM. Reason : ps i was drunk as fuck last night so i apologize for any comments ]

8/28/2009 9:00:43 AM

It's all good This is t-dub. I expect to get some shit from you people now and then.
I forgive you.

[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 9:25 AM. Reason : .]

8/28/2009 9:08:18 AM

Another Mazdevy to be born????

8/28/2009 10:34:32 AM

how about twin engines. FRONT & REAR!!!!

8/28/2009 11:11:33 AM

.

[Edited on August 28, 2009 at 11:15 AM. Reason : made no sense lol.]

8/28/2009 11:12:43 AM

i started to read about this thread again when i heard bout blow and h00kers

that is all.

8/28/2009 3:47:34 PM

Found a rebuilt BP-T for $1,700.... That's $10/hp. And since it's already setup for boost, more power is easy and around the corner. But I want it for CHEAPER

8/28/2009 3:54:32 PM

biggest lesson in cars:


gotta pay to play.

8/28/2009 4:07:55 PM

Quote :

"323gtx"

i've always kinda wanted one of these. one of my friends in high school had one, it was a fun car.

8/29/2009 6:48:49 PM

hey smores, whatever you do, you make too much money.

8/29/2009 8:48:23 PM

^ I wish... In about 3 years, I'll hopefully double my income. heh, we'll see though...


lol I like that name... smores... lolz

Ebay ain't got shit either btw... That BP-T looks very tempting... I'll let you guys know what happens when it happens... This might be another Porscheve where I'll do something completely different from planned last minute

[Edited on August 30, 2009 at 6:44 AM. Reason : .]

8/30/2009 6:40:32 AM

please do me a favor and start of with a better platform. just bc u've had the car for a long time and have all the records and have emotional attachment doesnt mean shit. go fast, go cheap get a turbo'd civic hatch with a built b18 and call it a day, if importing it out is ur thing.

I honestly would buy another 800 dollar dd beater car, drive.. then throw all the money u would at a shitty mazda turbo at the porscheve instead and make it an even bigger monster.

that porscheve is not done yet bro. dont mark that off as a finished project, it's sweet but it still needs body work. nice paint. sweet rims. better tranny and a 383 stroker thrown into it with a super charger.

[Edited on August 30, 2009 at 9:46 AM. Reason : .]

8/30/2009 9:37:55 AM

I need to stop desiring more power... All I wanted was a triple digit horsepower mazda It doesn't have to be fast. ah fuck it all

8/30/2009 10:39:34 AM

A fast MX3 would be funny. 200HP was great for around town and would be a blast in that car.

8/30/2009 10:43:09 AM

it would be pretty fun. but a 383 stroker with a supercharger on an old school porsche would be even better..




k thx for playing!

8/30/2009 10:51:01 AM

Haha. Awesome...

a 383 stroker is going to be awesome for the 944. Ron said he could fix the driver's side exhaust for $400. I'm going to see if I can get some nice block huggers for the passenger side to add clearance. Otherwise, it's going to be about $2000 for a set of new headers for this car. Fuck that. There won't be any power gains, it'll just look nice. So I'm going the cheap route on that...

a fast mx3 would be fine. But I do want to get my hands dirty. I desperately want experience doing this kind of stuff...

8/30/2009 1:51:59 PM

in large part, the experience sucks balls. it's cool for the easy bolt-on stuff, then it's a royal asspain for the stuff that doesn't go exactly according to plan. then you realize, fuck I'm really good at X, it's a lot cheaper to just do more X and pay someone who does Y all day long to do Y for $rhodeisland while I make $texas doing X.

8/30/2009 2:38:45 PM

get good at workin on ur porsche urself dood.

8/30/2009 6:15:06 PM

Besides the welding required to fix the exhaust and door, I can (or at least believe ) do the rest. I now have a garage as well as most of the tools...

8/30/2009 10:11:53 PM

nice cant wait to c what u do

8/31/2009 10:01:03 AM

Sorry I missed this thread before, but have you talked to the guys at corksport.com?



I used to be an MX-3 owner, and the guys at corksport were great when it came to sourcing parts.



(and for the record for the naysayers, this is not a PITA project, it's straightforward and easier than shit *IF* you can find a BP-ZE)

[Edited on September 19, 2009 at 2:21 PM. Reason : .]

9/19/2009 2:13:47 PM

Putting a turbo on a car without one and programming a stand alone EMS is a PITA. If you just mean placing another FWD engine by the same company in with the same mounts I agree with you. That isnt even worth doing though.....

9/19/2009 3:59:24 PM

yes corksport I think do have access to JDM engines. they do a lot of Mazda stuff

9/19/2009 4:09:02 PM

Yeah. Screw the engine swap... for now...

He was referring to the engine swap. It's almost a direct drop in. You can retain the OEM wiring harness. You have to add 2 wires in addition, but otherwise is a direct swap. BP_ZE's seem hard to come by... I called Corksport last week in regards to some suspension components... Aftermarket Mazda Speed and Corksport parts are cheaper than OEM!!! Hell, they don't make springs for the MX3 anymore. The dealership said the warehouses are just about empty (no rear springs available, only fronts ), thus, a set of front springs was going to run $380. I can get a complete set of H&R lowering springs for $150

Car is doing fine. I've beat the piss out of it on occasion and it's holding up great. I'm in no rush to do anything with it. If something happens, I've got 2 other cars...

9/19/2009 8:40:44 PM

We should organize a beater race of some kind. Your MX-3 and my GS-R being involved goes without question.

9/22/2009 2:38:59 PM

Be glad my e30 went to the crusher. She would destroy *all of you in the beater rally.

* unless Quinn's turbo hatch counts as a beater.

9/22/2009 2:53:06 PM

I'm talking on and OFF road!

I'm still knocking dirt off my undercarriage from last spring's muddy trails when camping. And I need a new header. A rock hit mine and it looks like someone took a sledge hammer to it

9/22/2009 3:15:48 PM

The mx-3 is in need of tires and suspension. Rears are like 95% bald. Fronts have about 90% tread though. I really would like to see how well this car could handle with Mazdaspeed/Corksport suspension... After I fix the Porsche up to where it's auto-x ready, I'll be throwing money at this beast for fun

9/22/2009 3:38:02 PM