So we won our last conference title in football in 1979 and our last conference title in men's basketball in 1987. The following schools have won at least one conference, or national title in football or basketball since we last did in 1987. Some have won multiple titles between both sports.

Big XII/Big 8/SWC
Iowa State
Kansas
Kansas State
Colorado
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas A&M
Missouri
Houston
Arkansas
Texas Tech
TCU
SMU

SEC
Florida
Kentucky
LSU
Alabama
Tennessee
Auburn
Georgia
Mississippi State

Big Ten
Iowa
Ohio State
Michigan
Northwestern
Penn State
Illinois
Indiana
Purdue
Wisconsin
Michigan State

Pac-10
Washington
Washington State
Oregon State
Oregon
Arizona State
Arizona
UCLA
USC
Stanford
California

ACC
FSU
Georgia Tech
Maryland
UNC
Wake Forest
Duke
Clemson
Virginia
Virginia Tech

Big East
Miami
Syracuse
UConn
West Virginia
Pitt
George Town
Boston College
St. John's
Villanova
Seton Hall
Louisville
Rutgers
South Florida
Cinncinnati
Providence

Independent
Notre Dame

No Titles Since 1987
NC State
Ole Miss
Marquette
DePaul (?)
Baylor
Vanderbilt
Minnesota

[Edited on March 12, 2009 at 10:39 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2009 10:37:11 PM

This just in: we suck

3/12/2009 10:38:08 PM

Very depressing, though not suprising.

3/12/2009 10:54:23 PM

who is worse?

Baylor?

3/12/2009 10:55:38 PM

I would hope Minnesota, DePaul, and Vandy.

3/12/2009 10:56:59 PM

3/12/2009 10:57:15 PM

I will say that Mississippi State only won 1 SEC basketball title after we won one in 1987, so if you count our title then we are tied with them.

3/12/2009 10:58:56 PM

That's great news.

3/12/2009 11:00:07 PM

^No kidding!

3/12/2009 11:01:15 PM

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"I will say that Mississippi State only won 1 SEC basketball title after we won one in 1987, so if you count our title then we are tied with them."

What? Are you trying to say that Miss. St. is the only school with only one title since 1987?

3/12/2009 11:02:40 PM

[obligatory] FIRE LEE FOWLER

3/12/2009 11:05:17 PM

I'm an NC State and Cubs fan.

3/12/2009 11:05:28 PM

All this being said, I would think that we have a better chance of winning the conference in football much sooner than basketball considering the state of both our programs and the rest of the conference. So we are looking to break this streak when, this year, 2010....?

3/12/2009 11:06:30 PM

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"Matlock All American 867 Posts user info edit post I would hope Minnesota, DePaul, and Vandy."

Vandy has more of an excuse, not sure about DePaul

3/12/2009 11:06:35 PM

DePaul is a BCS school?

3/12/2009 11:07:46 PM

True, but DePaul played in conference usa when huggins was still at cincy and they were pretty nasty.

[Edited on March 12, 2009 at 11:09 PM. Reason : .]

3/12/2009 11:08:25 PM

We're a huge public university in medium-sized city in a highly-populated mild weather state. We've got great facilities, lots of rich donors and tons of fans.

We have no excuse

We're a fucking joke

[Edited on March 12, 2009 at 11:09 PM. Reason : Oh, yeah, we play in the ACC too]

3/12/2009 11:08:56 PM

^ now if I had said that...


I heard this from a guy at the game tonight who was sitting beside me:

"when did you all join the ACC?" and "you just a few years to get the program established"


[Edited on March 12, 2009 at 11:11 PM. Reason : d]

3/12/2009 11:09:25 PM

Well congratulations on sitting beside a retard

Even being the disgrace that we are, you can't blame us for that guy's ignorance

3/12/2009 11:13:24 PM

he was from "THE U"

3/12/2009 11:17:54 PM

guys, it's just college athletics. i love it as much as anyone here, but what the hell? it's not a tragedy that we suck. it is what it is.

3/12/2009 11:19:42 PM

So, what? Just shut down sports talk? No point in discussing anything now?

3/12/2009 11:20:48 PM

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"he was from "THE U""

of course he was

3/12/2009 11:21:34 PM

^^ no, but every thread these days are people crying about how it's unjust that we're bad.

3/12/2009 11:33:24 PM

Where in this thread is someone crying about injustice?

3/12/2009 11:43:03 PM

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bam.

3/12/2009 11:44:49 PM

I think (and correct me if I'm wrong here) that he is sad because we suck. Maybe you have some alternate definition of injustice...?

3/12/2009 11:46:33 PM

come on, are we going to play semantics here Ernie? you're better than that.

3/12/2009 11:47:29 PM

Look, if there's someone saying that we've been cheated out of a championship, or that we "deserve" a championship for some reason or another, then they're crying about injustice.

All we have here is a bunch of dudes who are sad because of their school's pathetic athletic program. Nothing wrong with that.

3/12/2009 11:49:20 PM

no see that's the thing, people aren't sad, they're angry. fire lowe, fire fowler, someone has to go for these atrocities.

3/12/2009 11:52:03 PM

I still don't see how that's crying about injustice. And, to a reasonable extent, there's really nothing wrong with giving the boot to the people responsible for failing to bring the program out of the shitter.

3/12/2009 11:54:16 PM

i'm all for firing fowler, but this isn't SFN. we don't need to repeat the same stats over and over and over.

3/12/2009 11:56:28 PM

I can agree with that. And I'm pretty sure this list has been posted before (with baseball championships added in), but it's Big4Country. The guy's a bit slow.

3/12/2009 11:58:47 PM

pretty interesting to look at anyway

3/13/2009 12:03:20 AM

^^ word.

[Edited on March 13, 2009 at 12:03 AM. Reason : ^]

3/13/2009 12:03:34 AM

I always get you two confused. Its fun to see you fight

3/13/2009 12:04:35 AM

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"DePaul is a BCS school?"

They play Big East basketball.

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"I can agree with that. And I'm pretty sure this list has been posted before (with baseball championships added in), but it's Big4Country. The guy's a bit slow."

I've never seen it here before. I spend most of my time in chit chat though.

3/13/2009 1:47:26 AM

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"every thread these days are people crying about how it's unjust that we're bad."

When UNC, Duke, and WF are all at the top, then yes, it is unjust. Wake was shit in both football and basketball 3-4 years ago, and they turned both programs around. We however promise improvement every year and other than the somewhat successful football season we just had (with success = bowl invitation), we never deliver.

3/13/2009 2:08:31 AM

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"When UNC, Duke, and WF are all at the top, then yes, it is unjust. Wake was shit in both football and basketball 3-4 years ago, and they turned both programs around. We however promise improvement every year and other than the somewhat successful football season we just had (with success = bowl invitation), we never deliver."

The sad part is even Duke and Wake have managed to win football titles since we last did. As for the argument that we can't compete because we are located too close to UNC and Duke, I say BS. All teams that play D1 basketball have to try to out recruit Duke, UNC, Kentucky, UCLA, Indiana, Kansas, UConn, etc., if they want to compete on a national level.

3/13/2009 2:13:59 AM

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"guys, it's just college athletics. i love it as much as anyone here, but what the hell? it's not a tragedy that we suck. it is what it is. "

fer real.

[Edited on March 13, 2009 at 8:20 AM. Reason : .]

3/13/2009 8:20:35 AM

We may never be competitive with Duke and Carolina in basketball ever again. Wake, who knows. Maybe not with them either. All that aside it would be nice, and achievable, to pull ourselves out of the bottom third in the conference in at least one watchable sport.

3/13/2009 8:25:27 AM

^ I agree.

For those of you familiar with my recent posts, don't mistake my optimism and "giving coaches/players/etc the benefit of the doubt" attitude for an "acceptance of mediocrity." Nothing could be farther from the truth. State has a great academic program, a huge fanbase, excellent facilities and an enviable basketball history. I don't "accept" State being Duke and UNC's doormat. Never have and never will.

True State's overall record against its Tobacco Road rivals is an eyesore no matter what time period you look at, but the Pack is most certainly had the 3rd-most success in the ACC historically. We're in the best conference and we have a huge fanbase that spends $texas$ every year watching even BAD Wolfpack teams. No one's should EXPECT Lowe or anyone else to start beating the Tarholes or dookies immediately, but ALL of us should expect progress toward that goal.

Lowe has at least next season to prove himself. If he fails to develop his incoming talent, then I'll understand him getting booted. But for now I'm just going to deal wuth the fact that we've got a promising but under-performing coach that deserves a shot to prove that the predecessors' recruits, instead of coaching quality, have in fact been the underlying problem.

3/13/2009 10:04:07 AM

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"No Titles Since 1987 NC State Ole Miss Marquette DePaul (?) Baylor Vanderbilt Minnesota"

Explain to me how schools without a football program are "BCS Schools".

3/13/2009 10:18:34 AM

^The list was schools that have won titles after 1987 in football, or men's basketball. Right now Marquette and Depaul play Big East basketball and have yet to win a conference title, or national title while doing so. Right now it looks like Marquette has a better chance at win the BEC, or NCAA's than we do at winning the ACC, or NCAA's. Notice how I also listed SMU, TCU, and Houston who won SWC football titles after 1987 before that league split and joined C-USA, The Big 8, and SEC.

[Edited on March 13, 2009 at 12:49 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2009 12:48:25 PM

Basketball Championship Series?

3/13/2009 12:58:54 PM

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"guys, it's just college athletics. i love it as much as anyone here, but what the hell? it's not a tragedy that we suck. it is what it is."

i, too have started telling myself this

3/13/2009 1:12:16 PM

1. We have a reg. season title

2. Some of these teams won their titles in lesser leagues (come on, I went to USF at one point, USF was in the Sun Belt when they last won theirs)

[Edited on March 13, 2009 at 1:21 PM. Reason : .]

3/13/2009 1:20:51 PM

There is no such thing as a regular season championship.

3/13/2009 1:22:58 PM

we have a state championship in football

3/13/2009 1:26:03 PM

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"There is no such thing as a regular season championship."

UNC disagrees

3/13/2009 1:28:51 PM