http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/01/30/mother.octuplets/index.html

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"The mother of a woman who gave birth on Monday to octuplets said her daughter already has six children at home and was undergoing fertility treatment"

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" The woman declined to have the number of embryos reduced when she discovered she was carrying multiples, the Times reported. The six older siblings range from ages 7 to 2, according to the newspaper. she was concerned about her daughter's homecoming because her husband, a contract worker, is due to return to Iraq."

What the fuck is wrong with people. The woman already has 6 children yet was taking fertility drugs to have another?

I am sure she choose to keep all 8 octuplets b.c. aborting some is against her religious beliefs and abortion is evil; against
"gods wishes".

On the other hand perhaps it was against gods wishes for her to get pregnant if she had to take fertility drugs to get pregnant.

I have no sympathy for the "hardships" or money trouble this woman will face after choosing to have 14 kids. I wouldn't be
surprised though if the tax payer gets charged with subsidizing her litter of children.

Why do people choose to have so many fucking kids? This girl i'm friends with has an aunt with 8 kids (6 with her 1st husband, 1 with her 2nd husband, and one love child) and
her uncle has 7 kids with an eighth on the way. Really it just BLOWS my mind that people choose to have so many kids.

Funny thing about the aunt is 3 of her eldest daughters were pregnant before the age of 20. One got married at 18out of high school had kids. One got pregnant at 17 followed by a shotgun wedding. The 3rd daughter got knocked up at 16 and is giving the kid up for adoption. I suppose some people just do not believe in contraception.



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1/30/2009 10:23:05 AM

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"BITCHES ARE CRAZY"

1/30/2009 10:27:03 AM

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" WELFARE IS AWESOME "

1/30/2009 10:32:28 AM

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"CLOWN CAR VAGINA"

ibtchitchat

1/30/2009 10:34:31 AM

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" TLC TELEVISION SERIES "

1/30/2009 10:50:46 AM

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"I wouldn't be surprised though if the tax payer gets charged with subsidizing her litter of children."

good, b/c they are. the total hospital care is going to run into the millions and don't think for one second that the parent's are going to pay. they keep having kids b/c the government enables them.

1/30/2009 11:06:23 AM

yeah, she'll most likely get a reality series or at least one show and then get a ton of free shit from it like jon and kate plus 8. They get a ton of free shit.

1/30/2009 11:20:36 AM

If i found out my wife was pregnant with octuplets we are heading to the "clinic" so that we will only be having twins. I do not care if she is the mutha fucking niece of the Pope.

Nature or "God" if your beleif did not design people to have litters of children. Only with modern medical technology do most of the babies in such case survive birth in the first place.

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1/30/2009 11:51:20 AM

^^ nah, this is old news now. people only care about the first set of octuplets. The 2nd set will not get a TV show or lifetime supplies of dipers or whatever

[Edited on January 30, 2009 at 11:52 AM. Reason : .]

1/30/2009 11:52:17 AM

she is trying to beat the duggers

1/30/2009 12:43:47 PM

Imagine, if you will, how k-razy it'd be if she had 8 kids every year...

1/30/2009 12:59:24 PM

but

but
but

each one is a gift from god!

1/30/2009 1:03:39 PM

Why the fuck was she having fertilty treatment if she already had a couple of SIX kids???

If those octuplets were her first kids, sure, go ahead and bring them into the world... but she already had 6 kids, so why did she want more?

And the father won't even be around...

This is just wrong.

Making kids is not a game. It is better to bring up 2 kids properly with love who would become good human beings and benefit the world, than to bring 10 kids who are half-neglected.

She should be prosecuted for child neglect and child endangerment.

1/30/2009 1:10:23 PM

Apparently this idiot declared bankruptcy, and she lives with her parents in a 2-3 bedroom house:


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/30/octuplets-conceived-throu_n_162571.html

1/30/2009 1:52:50 PM

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"My family and I are ecstatic about all of their arrivals the welfare money we'll be receiving for the 14 children over the next 10+ years."

this bitch should be giving these kids up for adoption.

1/30/2009 2:38:31 PM

someone just ran up a hefty child support bill.

1/30/2009 2:41:11 PM

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"The babies grandfather is reportedly going back to Iraq to earn money for the doubled family."

1/30/2009 2:58:11 PM

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"If those octuplets were her first kids, sure, go ahead and bring them into the world... but she already had 6 kids, so why did she want more? And the father won't even be around... This is just wrong. Making kids is not a game. It is better to bring up 2 kids properly with love who would become good human beings and benefit the world, than to bring 10 kids who are half-neglected. She should be prosecuted for child neglect and child endangerment."

some people in this country are absolute idiots. This woman should be court ordered to refrain from future use of fertility drugs. I don't want to be paying for her next litter of 7-8-9 babies.

1/30/2009 3:27:37 PM

Wait, why do you think the government is paying for her to have children? I missed the part where is says that. I am assuming they have health insurance. If they dad is a contractor in Iraq, he probably makes over 100k a year. If they can support the kids, then more power to them. Not something I would do, but last time I checked we did live in a country that values freedom.

1/30/2009 4:58:58 PM

I don't think the government should ever limit people from having kids... but they certainly shouldn't be giving them financial support. This was a serious mistake.

1/30/2009 4:59:22 PM

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"She is single. She used a sperm donor, someone she knew, who donated sperm a long time ago"

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"She lives with her parents in a 2-3 bedroom house, and a year-and-a-half ago the family declared bankruptcy and abandoned another home"

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"The babies grandfather is reportedly going back to Iraq "

^ I believe it is the governments, yours, and my business when she has to go on welfare or the bank gets a bailout due to her family being one of the homes forclosed b.c they can't pay the mortgage due to exorberant child care cost.

1/30/2009 5:34:23 PM

If this continues I see a baby limit happening like in China but maybe two children instead of one.

This is ri-god damn-diculous.

1/30/2009 5:51:02 PM

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"I believe it is the governments, yours, and my business when she has to go on welfare or the bank gets a bailout due to her family being one of the homes forclosed b.c they can't pay the mortgage due to exorberant child care cost"

It is my god damn business.

The people who are gonna pay for the kids well-being should have a say about whether they are brought into the world or not.

1/30/2009 6:29:54 PM

I feel sorry for the older children. While already growing up in a fatherless home with a mother whose attention and limited money was divided among their other 5 siblings. Now many of the older ones instead of being a kid or teen will likely end up doing a shit load of nannying and care in order to help raise the octoplets. This woman is not only irresponsible but it seems neglectful and selfish. Lets also not forget grandma forced to help out and grandpa who is stuck going back to IRaq to help out Ms. Breeds like Rabbit

1/30/2009 8:46:09 PM

She sounds mentally ill.

1/30/2009 9:51:46 PM

http://abcnews.go.com/Video/playerIndex?id=6767753

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1/30/2009 9:58:12 PM

now i see why she didnt want her identity released nor any other details surrounding her pregnancy released.


really depressing that she would do this.

1/30/2009 11:49:13 PM

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"This woman is not only irresponsible but it seems neglectful and selfish."

I also have to wonder about the ethics of the fertility clinic that went ahead with the procedure. Did she just lie about her living situation when she went to the clinic or did they know full well what was going on?

1/31/2009 12:08:16 AM

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"Only with modern medical technology do most of the babies in such case people survive birth in the first place for as long as they do now."

i guess you've never been the recipient of any type of modern anything that would prolong your life past the average life expectancy of a stone age person, yeah?

1/31/2009 12:55:03 AM

^^it's not their responsibility to police how many kids people have.

1/31/2009 9:58:20 AM

yeah, but it is their ethical responsibility to refuse service if they feel like the kids wouldn't be put into a good environment. Just like adoption agencies approve or deny an adoption applications, or how a bartender can cut a drunk off from the bar.

1/31/2009 10:30:47 AM

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"^^it's not their responsibility to police how many kids people have."

First: do no harm

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"Nadya Suleman holds a 2006 degree in child and adolescent development from California State University, Fullerton, and as late as last spring she was studying for a master's degree in counseling, college spokeswoman Paula Selleck told the Press-Telegram."

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1/31/2009 10:32:07 AM

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"When these social programs were first dreamed up we opposed them for two reasons: 1. They would be abused by the beneficiaries. 2. They would be used as an argument to limit the personal freedoms of everyone. Now, I see you here bitching about #1 and advocating #2. Where's your outrage for the program itself?"

Yet another good reason to discontinue social programs entirely.

1/31/2009 12:26:42 PM

the whole thing is ridiculous.

first off, the woman is 33 years old and has the following kids: a 7 yr old, a 6 yr old, a 5 yr old, a 3 yr old, and 2 yr old twins. and now the 8 babies.

she filed for bankruptcy a year and a half ago and lost her "big home" that her father was telling the media that they're all going to go run off to. she is currently living with her mom and dad in their 3 bedroom home. all of them.

on top of it, home girl isn't even married. her father is going back to iraq as a contractor to make some money to provide.

it blows my mind that this single parent who already has 6 kids would choose to pay for IVF rather than providing for her own children. i mean i dunno she could have possibly gone and got them their own place to live. there's something shady about the situation......there's some sort of underlying agreement made between the doctors and the woman.

1/31/2009 12:39:05 PM

1/31/2009 12:55:42 PM

^ as much as I find it horrendous having that many children, at least they're providing a good home and such for their children.

This case is wholely different....

1/31/2009 12:58:50 PM

^ i dont know if i agree with that

when you have that many children, how do you spend enough time with all of them

there are only so many hours in the day

1/31/2009 3:09:35 PM

I imagine that ^^^ family is able to live so well because they are famous and probably have sponsorships with lifetimes supplies of diapers and food and clothes and stuff. From what I recall, the father has some normal job, so they obviously have some other significant forms of income (inheritence, sponsors, trust funds, etc)

1/31/2009 3:28:04 PM

Yes, the Duggars (giant family pictured above who have a show on TLC) make money from the show and from donations by various organizations - not the govt. I don't see why everyone gets all grumpy about this. As long as the parents are taking good care of the kids, they can have as many as they want. Not my business.

I do agree that the octuplet mom sounds like a dirtbag

1/31/2009 3:41:08 PM

^ well, it's one thing to be responsible parents and to raise a good family, and be reasonably self-sufficient (even though the Duggars aren't really self-sufficient, as it is other companies who are profiteering off of their own freakshow and sharing some of the profits with the family).

However, in the bigger picture, it is simply socially irresponsible. The population of the whole earth is simply growing way too quickly, and the bottom line is the country and the world cannot afford to have familys with 10 or 20 kids. Yes, this is a one-in-a-million (or, one in 100 million) situation, but that doesn't make it right. Furthermore, the Duggars are overtly religious and anti-contraceptive, claiming that each child is just "another miracle from God", and if God doesn't want them to have more children, then she won't get pregnant. Even putting aside the religious foolishness, that's just simply a flase statement - if you keep fucking like rabbits, you will continue to have kids. End of discussion. God doesn't need to "bless" you with another kid to get pregnant - it's a pretty well known biological function that requires no devine intervention.

1/31/2009 3:56:05 PM

I think we all agree that this woman is mentally ill and probably a doucher.

But let's not limit everyone's freedom to have kids based on this retard. America is supposedly a free country.

1/31/2009 6:23:16 PM

THEY TOOK 'ER FREEDOM RAWR RAWR RAWR

this woman has 14 kids, all of them conceived through IVF, and she is living on welfare.
Maybe Spiderman's mantra should have been "with great power freedom comes great responsibility"

1/31/2009 6:37:06 PM

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"THEY TOOK 'ER FREEDOM RAWR RAWR RAWR "

No one is RAWRing besides you Mr. boldface and all caps.

Anyways, if the children are being neglected then arrest them for that. Arbitrarily setting limits on numbers of kids is something commies and fascists do.

1/31/2009 6:49:44 PM

it's one thing if you're financially sound or keep having children naturally, like the Duggars (i, personally, still don't think it's right, but also don't agree with an arbitrary limit).
But this woman has had at least 7 successful IVF treatments, accounting for 14 kids. It's not unreasonalbe for an IVF clinic to be allowed (or required) to allow or deny IVF treatments, just like adoption agencies do when looking at prospective parents.

1/31/2009 7:32:08 PM

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"it's one thing if you're financially sound"

1/31/2009 7:33:27 PM

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"America is supposedly a free country."

i'm SO free.

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"but last time I checked we did live in a country that values freedom."

i'm confused as to why everyone keeps saying this and if they really believe it. but that is another topic altogether. and i am a cynic. but yea, let freedom ring.

and the other thing i'm wondering is how has this woman's uterus not run screaming from her body. if i was any part of her reproductive system i'd be like, hell no. closed for business.

1/31/2009 7:42:26 PM

As long as this woman can support her 14 kids without government assistance....more power to her

But I sure as hell don't feel like giving my tax $$ to her

1/31/2009 7:46:50 PM

according to this article, she is already on welfare
http://tinyurl.com/aeftq6
so who do you think is goign to pay for the 46 physicians and staff it took to perform the deliveries.

and forget about the estimated $100,000 for each kid's expenses until they're 18.

1/31/2009 8:05:46 PM

First 5 posts for the win.

1/31/2009 8:28:20 PM

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"Nadya Suleman, 33, has been obsessed since her teens with being a mother and had eight embryos implanted because she wanted "just one more girl" to add to her existing brood of six children aged two to seven, according to her mother. She "is not evil, but she is obsessed with children. She loves children, she is very good with children, but obviously she overdid herself." "

This story keeps getting worse and worse. Don't these fertility clinics do any sort of psychological screenings? It seems like its much easier to get your uterus pumped full of embryos than to adopt an already existing kid

1/31/2009 9:13:01 PM