Anyone had a negative experience with this one? I'm generally of the opinion that less is better with pet vaccines, but my vet pushed this one like crack and we do frequent the dog park, so I caved. He got the intranasal version and was totally not himself the day after (really dead to the world). Now, a week later he is kinda brain dead again, seems to have joint soreness(but he is a huge growing boy) drooling, and his nose is running. Some google resources mentioned bordetella reactions occuring 7 days after, but they usually involved face swelling or contracting kennel cough. Anyone had a negative experience?

1/10/2009 1:47:52 PM

Ask for the SQ version next time, see if the same thing happens.

1/10/2009 1:54:11 PM

It's not uncommon for dogs to have drug/vaccine allergies like humans. Did you call the vet to ask?

I think the pros out weigh the cons. I've seen a dog die of bordatella and it is disgusting and painful...tons of bloody, smelly anal leakage and lots of pain.

1/10/2009 2:06:47 PM

I was a vet tech for years, so I'm making my own judgment here on if he NEEDS a vet. My cat is severely allergic to vaccines, so I'm familiar with that.

Thanks for the input, but in my experience bordetella is no worse than a cold if caught early, and if that dog was bleeding out of its ass it had something a lot worse than bordetella.

1/10/2009 2:10:12 PM

^^ If it was that bad they brought the dog in way too late. In the early stages a dog with bordetella will just sneeze a lot. Most owners I would hope would recognize that their dog needs to be seen if they are sneezing significantly above normal.

1/10/2009 2:15:03 PM

that's awfully weird for an bordatella vaccine. i don't think i'd attribute the joint soreness to that.

have you checked his temp?

1/10/2009 2:16:19 PM

It was definately too late, the person brough the dog in as a last resort because they thought bloody diahrea was cause for alarm. The dog died, supsequently.

I usually do the vaccine simply because when I take my dog for a walk, lots of people let their dog come up and sniff my dog, and you really just never know. Otherwise, it's such a cheap vaccine and it's easier doing that than having to pay huge bills later if she does get sick.

[Edited on January 10, 2009 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]

1/10/2009 2:21:22 PM

1/10/2009 2:23:30 PM

The joint soreness we're mainly contributing to the fact that he's growing like kudzu. Normal temperature. He's just "off" and I wondered if others had experienced this, I've been skeptical of the bordetella vaccine in the past. It might very well just be growing pains, and he is teething now, so he might just not feel like doing much. It's my first puppy, always had adult dogs in the past, so I'm not entirely sure what to expect.

1/10/2009 2:32:36 PM

did you get the puppy from the shelter?

1/10/2009 2:34:11 PM

vaccinations gave your dog autism.

1/10/2009 3:37:13 PM

My dog's had this vaccine every year and its never adversely affected him.

1/10/2009 4:20:47 PM

^^^No. We've had him two months, so I doubt he had it before the vaccine.

1/10/2009 7:00:54 PM

The intranasal (IN) bordetella vaccine is probably one of the safest vaccinations a vet will ever give your dog. Because it is given "topically," contacting the mucous membranes of the nasal cavity, it doesn't stimulate a systemic immune response and you aren't introducing any 'contaminants' so the risk of reaction to this vaccine is very very low. Bascially the vaccine works to coat the point of entry of the bacteria, which are mucous membranes, usually inhaled through the nose. In the small chance that a reaction does occur, it should be very typical, will occur within 24-48 hours and will present as facial swelling, drooling, increased temperature and lethargy. Your dog's symptoms (joint pain, lethargy) this long after the vaccination could be due to it's immune system finally mounting a response and producing antibodies to a low-lying infection, but this is what you'd like to occur and subsequent vaccinations should not elucidate the same results. If you decide to continue getting this vaccination, which seems appropriate if you frequent the dog park, I wouldn't reccomend getting the injectable bordetella next time since it doesn't sound like your puppy is having an allergic reaction to the IN. The risk for reaction is higher with the injectable because it is given with an adjuvant.

One thing I would suggest since it sounds like your dog is young, is to get it on a 3-year distemper routine, if you're concerned with limiting the amount of vaccinations it needs to get every year. If your vet doesn't offer this, go to one that does...it's been proven that there is no logical reason to be administering a yearly distemper vaccination to dogs that have had a normal puppy series.

[Edited on January 11, 2009 at 12:26 AM. Reason : and another thing...]

1/11/2009 12:13:13 AM

^Thanks. He's teething right now, so I'm suspicious that that might have to do with the crankiness and drooling more than the bordetella. I plan on putting him on 3 year vaccines if at all possible, but I am highly cautious of adjuvants and I know most long term vaccines have them (our cat is highly reactive). I'm not sure yet what adult canine vaccines they offer, but I know the vet mentioned a 3 year non-adjuvent feline rabies vaccine coming out soon.

1/11/2009 8:37:04 PM

^^ Thanks for posting that.

1/11/2009 8:54:06 PM

Both of my dogs received this vaccine today (intranasal), and both of them are doing well - behaving as they usually do with regard to appetite, playfulness and general demeanor. One is approximately 9 years old, and the other is 6 1/2 months old.

1/12/2009 11:09:31 PM

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"elucidate the same results"

i believe you meant to say elicit.

1/13/2009 3:15:20 PM

I do believe you're right!

1/13/2009 5:34:01 PM