Would you rather have brad lidge or a rod?

12/29/2008 8:38:02 PM

You have to be trolling with a question like that....seriously

12/29/2008 10:24:40 PM

I think I'll take the guy who hits 50 HR, draws walks, hits for average, runs fairly well, and can play two key positions in the infield.

Over some guy who over the course of the season saves 40 games when a below average closer could convert on 93% of those.


Really?

12/29/2008 10:26:34 PM

a-rod

12/29/2008 10:48:28 PM

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"You have to be trolling with a question like that....seriously "

12/30/2008 2:54:56 AM

12/30/2008 3:00:51 AM

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"what is a DH?"

12/30/2008 3:02:47 AM

^ ?

12/30/2008 3:32:06 AM

go phils.

12/30/2008 3:54:20 AM

WE MAKIN A-ROD MONEY

12/30/2008 4:31:27 AM

If you wanted more responses you should have posted the question under every single baseball thread that we have on TWW for every team. Making a general MLB thread is way to easy, and asking a general question is also way to easy

12/30/2008 8:58:12 AM

Didn't need more responses. Just a few are fine. It was an argument myself and The Dude had down in Birmingham yesterday. The reason the question is so short is it is difficult to type on an iphone.

The scenario is you have a closer and 3rd baseman of equal talent at their position. Would you rather have Alex Rodriguez or Brad Lidge. I took Lidge because he actually produces in the post season, stats are up across the board (including an era under 2.0 and perfect 41/41 saves), is a year younger, and is rather injury free (except for the torn meniscus the one time).

A-Rod's stats are down in every category, does not do shit in the playoffs (Romo syndrom), and missed more games last year than any season he was a starting player but one. But The Dude, like that Glavin and Maddox commercial years ago, digs the long ball.

But hey, I look to be wrong here. The few posts so far have pointed the people preferring Rodriguez.

[Edited on December 30, 2008 at 11:08 PM. Reason : sd]

12/30/2008 11:08:15 PM

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"^ ?"

before your time

12/30/2008 11:10:20 PM

12/31/2008 12:01:55 AM

I wasn't going to reply to this thread, I thought it was a joke, then I saw hershculez's post above.

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"I took Lidge"

Lidge Win Shares -- 2008: 13, career: 64
A-Rod Win Shares -- 2008: 25, career: 407

There's no way you can take a guy who appears in less than half of his team's games over a guy who was second in the AL in OPS (and he had a down year!)

12/31/2008 1:31:17 AM

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"The scenario is you have a closer and 3rd baseman of equal talent at their position."

i don't think you can quantify that without some extremely complicated statistic that, judging from the display of your baseball knowledge, you clearly don't have.

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"I took Lidge because he actually produces in the post season"

a-rod wasn't that bad in the 2007 playoffs. he was better than jeter who just gets a free pass for being on the dynasty teams from 10 years ago despite his absolutely atrocious defense. i know in previous years a-rod hasn't really pulled through in clutch situations, but he's the guy that helps get you to october every year by playing day in and day out. a-rod led the majors in 2007 with 39 win shares. the previous post already showed you a-rods' career win shares compared to lidge's.

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"A-Rod's stats are down in every category, does not do shit in the playoffs (Romo syndrom), and missed more games last year than any season he was a starting player but one."

not sure if you realize this, but players have down years. did you completely ignore brad lidge's performance in 2006? apparently you did. a-rod's "down years" are still better than most players in the MLB's best seasons.

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"stats are up across the board (including an era under 2.0 and perfect 41/41 saves)"

unlearn everything you know about baseball stats and start over with some of the ones that have surfaced in recent years thanks to stat nerds like bill james. ERA can be very deceptive when judging a reliever, and saves are just about the most worthless statistic in baseball along with wins and losses.

[Edited on December 31, 2008 at 2:51 AM. Reason : .]

12/31/2008 2:32:16 AM

Gold star for Rat Soup

12/31/2008 6:18:57 AM

The Dude won this thread before it even started

12/31/2008 8:49:34 AM

I'd still take A-Rod

2/10/2009 8:27:39 AM

... to poooooop on

2/10/2009 8:37:00 AM

How is Lidge looking now?

2/10/2009 8:48:07 AM

Still like a douchebag who chokes when it matters.

2/10/2009 9:10:01 AM

hershculez - Lidge still is a ok RP so he still looks like nothing compared to A-rod, and you look stupid for asking the question. A-Rod by a landslide with or without the juice.

2/10/2009 9:16:09 AM

Lidge isn't even a top 5 closer. Maybe borderline top 10.

Did you seriously ask this?

GG FeebleMinded, that's my favorite Cardinal memory even though we lost that series.

2/10/2009 9:18:57 AM

The answer is David Wright.

2/10/2009 5:12:47 PM

2/10/2009 5:22:49 PM

^^He would be a top 5 pick but I would probably take Hanley Ramirez over anybody

2/10/2009 6:43:39 PM