Well, somehow some puckish folks got this question to percolate to the top on change.gov:
12/16/2008 4:39:19 PM
I don't know why all these dumbass pot smoking hippies don't just get on a boat and float away to Amsterdam. I mean damn. if you don't like it GET THE FUCK OUT!
12/16/2008 4:41:28 PM
Would have completely expected such a response to the first one... he'd lose too much credibility in the political world if he were to support legalization of marijuana, regardless of whether or not it's the right thing to do. I'd like to see the response to a question on purely medical applications of marijuana, though... I'd hope/expect a more open response, at the very least.The second one? I'm disappointed, but not really surprised. What annoys me most is that it acts like the Bush administration is the only presidency to have tried curtailing civil liberties. Fucking partisan bullshit right there.[Edited on December 16, 2008 at 4:45 PM. Reason : .]
12/16/2008 4:43:28 PM
^^lol, right...But yeah, Obama is supposedly in favor of medical marijuana, or at least ending the federal ban......or so I heard
12/16/2008 4:44:18 PM
Obama has only been president for -35 days, I don't know why you are expecting more detailed answers, particularly ones that accuse the sitting president of steam rolling civil liberties.Just even saying he's going to review the executive orders is a big enough step, that implicitly means re-expanding civil liberties.
12/16/2008 4:48:07 PM
Apparently, Obama can spare more than one sentence saying "hell no" for a plethora of other subjects.But let's all pretend that change is juuuuuust around the bend.It'll be a fun four years.
12/16/2008 4:50:41 PM
12/16/2008 4:51:14 PM
Ahaha - you're blaming the right for this one, now? When his veep is one of the biggest drug warriors / civil liberties shredders on the "D" side of the aisle?Okay, man. Whatever keeps you sane.
12/16/2008 4:53:41 PM
lol because when obama talked about change, i DEFINITELY thought he was reffering(lol see what i did there) to marijuana
12/16/2008 4:56:14 PM
^^^^Can I borrow your crystal ball when you're done with it?Or at least let me know when this economic downturn will end.[Edited on December 16, 2008 at 4:56 PM. Reason : ]
12/16/2008 4:56:16 PM
Oh, so okay. He's just too busy. I gotcha.A boot to the throat doesn't matter as long as it's a Democrat wearing the boot.Keep Hope Alive!
12/16/2008 4:58:21 PM
yeah, he is kinda busy. Why. The. Fuck. would he put leagalizing a drug on the top of his list?
12/16/2008 5:00:51 PM
Wow. It's like you guys are completely unable to read.Let's try this again.Some folks managed to get this question up-rated to the top of the forum. And his answer to it is, "Hell no, it won't happen." Not even an explanation.And all you hacks can say is, "Well he's just too busy." Then, when confronted with a dodge on civil liberties better than Bush confronted with an shoe-throwing reporter, he's just too busy.Christ, you people are topping the right-wingers right now.But hey, maybe all those people doing time for marijuana will understand, right? Or maybe you can be so kind as to bump this thread whenever you hippies even get the inkling of complaining about drug laws.Like I said, this will be a fun four years. He's not even in office and you people are ready to shill on command.
12/16/2008 5:05:09 PM
lol "not even an explanation"dude its self explanatory
12/16/2008 5:06:02 PM
Try us, then. If it's so self-explanatory, then do entertain us with your explanation.
12/16/2008 5:07:27 PM
^^^ haha, do you need an explanation about why a president won't legalize marijuana?haha I may be mixing you up with another poster, but when did you get so batshit crazy? or is this a drunk post thread?In any case, not saying much is better than saying too much, because it gives him room to change gears later on.
12/16/2008 5:08:59 PM
what do you need explained exactly? theres only one president at a time lol^lol seriously
12/16/2008 5:09:23 PM
this will be a gradual process, years in the makingit will not happen over night
12/16/2008 5:11:10 PM
^^^No, I just find it telling that all you left-wingers would step over your own mother to defend this guy, despite alllll your complaining about this issue (not even getting into civil liberties) whenever it doesn't involve Obama.Given the rather sizable contingent of people who likely comprise his supporters who seem to support legalization, and given that this question managed to get up-rated enough to make it to the very top of the queue, one might believe that more than a one-sentence answer would be in order. Given all that "change we can believe in" bullshit.Oh wait, we can't believe in reforming crazy laws?
12/16/2008 5:12:32 PM
Now that he's "The Man".. perhaps Obama doesn't have as much problem anymore with stripping away individual rights.
12/16/2008 5:18:57 PM
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12/16/2008 5:34:28 PM
^^ that statement echoes his campaigning, where he specifically has stated he's going to throw out ones that violate the constitution, with his AG.
12/16/2008 5:36:03 PM
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12/16/2008 5:51:30 PM
i know, right? I can't even remember the last time the Democrats followed the Constitution. Or the Republicans, for that matter
12/16/2008 5:59:08 PM
12/16/2008 6:11:52 PM
12/16/2008 6:19:17 PM
noone cares about your goddamn pot habit right nowwe've got an economy to fix
12/16/2008 6:25:36 PM
Whatever, hippie douche. I don't even smoke weed, I just like to smoke out hypocrisy.I think I'll ask theDuke866 to bump this thread whenever you assholes decide to complain about civil liberties or the War on Drugs. Or partisan right-wing hacks.Like I said, this is going to be a fun four years.
12/16/2008 6:28:08 PM
i live in a state that recently decriminalized weed up to an ounce, so i'm getting a kick out of these replies/just kidding, i didn't read them
12/16/2008 6:42:23 PM
NEWS FLASHOBAMA NEVER, EVER EVEN SUGGESTED HE WAS GOING TO "LEGALIZE MARIJUANA". HE NEVER DID.obviously you've got a raging hardon for everything Obama, DR. STEVE.sorry its become so personal for you. and by the way, dipshit, "Legalization" and "Medical Marijuana" are TWO TOTALLY SEPARATE ISSUES. I'm just sayin' because i know you're loading up some red herrings.
12/16/2008 8:21:24 PM
you know how some teams/groups say "you guys can have him [back] because we sure don't want him"i'm fairly certain that's how people associated with DrSteveChaos feel]]
12/16/2008 8:34:28 PM
during the primary Obama clearly stated he was NOT in favor of drug legalization, but emphasizing that he was inclined to support Medical Marijuana.while on the other hand,Dr.Steve has abundantly and consistently demonstrated that he's a complete choad.
12/16/2008 8:43:53 PM
Last I checked, "civil liberties" and "the war on drugs" were also two separate issues. But oh well, thanks for playing.Stay classy, Obamaphiles - I just know things are going to be so much different when you act exactly like Bush supporters. You know, liberal with the insults and short on arguments.
12/16/2008 10:11:38 PM
thanks for the red herrings.you never fail to disappoint.
12/16/2008 11:12:35 PM
I do not think that word means what you think it means....but thanks for playing.
12/16/2008 11:15:53 PM
12/16/2008 11:25:09 PM
I know, I know, reading words and actually getting meaning from them is hard. Ask joe_schmoe if you don't believe me.Especially when the pertinent issue is, "Uh, hey, Obama's really, really hedging on civil liberties when confronted directly and doesn't seem to want to promise squat aside from 'reviewing' some executive orders." And, you know, the fact that he unequivocally takes drug reform off the table with zero qualification or even explanation. Which is totally irrelevant to a set of people who have spent the last eight fucking years bitching about these things.What terrible arguments! And how difficult they are to understand!
12/16/2008 11:31:03 PM
^ are you new to politics?the statement "Obama is not in favor of the legalization of marijuana" in no way completely takes it off the table because "legalization of marijuana" is a relatively vague term, especially when there is no real context to the statement. All that says is that he's not going to push for it, which is perfectly understandable. He's obviously thinking about 2012.
12/16/2008 11:40:42 PM
dude if our policy on cuba isnt changed in 5 milliseconds i'm gonna be mad
12/16/2008 11:48:32 PM
12/16/2008 11:51:12 PM
I've supported the war on drugs throughout the bush administration. If he were to legalize it on the national level it would still not do anything to state laws. decriminalization is what you idiots need to be looking at.
12/17/2008 12:02:55 AM
...what?
12/17/2008 12:05:01 AM
^^^ you know, there's not really much he can do before he becomes president, espcially given that the current President still has one month to implement whatever secret measures he wants. At this point,when his transition team is working closing with the Bush Admin, it really won't do him any good, politically, to just flat out say "i'm going to unto this and this and this and this that Bush has done, and by the way, i'm going to meet Pres Bush tomorrow and I think we'll have a good chat"give the guy a chance, once he gets some actual power.[Edited on December 17, 2008 at 12:07 AM. Reason : .]
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12/17/2008 1:01:13 AM
As was noted earlier, Obama isn't president yet.Besides, I don't recall there being great outrage over the Bush administration supporting the drug war; how often has there been commentary regarding increased military spending in Colombia?
12/17/2008 3:58:58 AM