I did also test drive the 135i and holy shitballs I enjoyed it. It reminded me a lot of my 944's low end torque. GOD THAT low end torque is incredible and sooooo smooth... There really wasn't any turbo lag that I could notice. The model I drove had the sport package. Very agile vehicle and the transmission was a smooth, though a bit "slow" maybe in allowing me to smoothly shift the gears. The engine didn't rev as freely as I thought it would (took me a second to get used to the delay in the rev matching on downshifts). Very nice interior, hardly any lean in some mild curves yet still smooth over bumps/potholes. BMW did a great job on that vehicle. I'd recommend. Hearing the engine screaming at 6,800rpm was so sweet. While I didn't really feel like I was getting tossed in the back of my seat from all the power, I did notice that the speedometer hit 100 without any hesitation along the way. While the vehicle doesn't have a mechanical limited slip, the car still felt planted even under heavy load at low speeds (I never disabled TC). I felt sexy in the car. There I said it.

And while this review may suck, I can only say this... Go out and test drive it for yourself, and maybe some of this will make sense.

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[Edited on December 6, 2008 at 10:59 PM. Reason : ./]

12/6/2008 10:59:45 PM

I just can't get over how ugly that damn car is

12/6/2008 11:57:54 PM

The 135i isn't that bad in person. I actually kinda like it... The 128i is though (it's ugly next to the 135i)

12/7/2008 12:12:39 AM

maybe not as bad as photos, but i've seen plenty in person.

12/7/2008 12:13:40 AM

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"screaming"

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"6,800rpm"

lol, come on now! that's not even a raised voice!

12/7/2008 8:32:08 AM

Quinn, he's not in the 10k redline club like you and I.

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 9:52 AM. Reason : hah, wait, you aren't either.]

12/7/2008 9:51:03 AM

oh yeah we're in the zero torque club together

12/7/2008 9:59:38 AM

^^i thought the RX8 had a 9K redline?

12/7/2008 1:00:19 PM

ugliest bmw ever.

12/7/2008 1:30:40 PM

^^it does, I'm guessing he modded it.

^yup.

12/7/2008 2:27:32 PM

I don't care if it's ugly. It was fun to drive imo. The guy was a total prick, although he did just let me do my own thing with the car. I wish he would have talked about it more since I don't know much about it. Oh well.

12/7/2008 4:14:57 PM

*shrug*

RX-8:



S-2000:



[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 7:15 PM. Reason : you say "redline" I say "the last number on the tachometer"]

[Edited on December 7, 2008 at 7:17 PM. Reason : ]

12/7/2008 7:14:53 PM

^kinda ugly interior

12/7/2008 7:30:53 PM

Ugly interior my ass.

Enjoy your souped up VW!

12/7/2008 7:34:31 PM

umm

thats doesnt make sense Mr. God.

if my tach went up to 20K, but realistically i could only rev to 8, then you wouldnt go around saying you have a 20K redline.

12/7/2008 7:43:12 PM

my A20A3 buried an 8k tach... to the tune of 8300ish

12/7/2008 7:54:50 PM

^^^^ no way man, it's one of my favorites.

12/7/2008 8:41:27 PM

I just realized that pic shows an S2000 CR going 72mph with nobody driving it

12/7/2008 8:58:55 PM

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"kinda ugly interior"

It's on the label of every armor all product. Not a joke.

12/7/2008 9:15:26 PM

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"umm thats doesnt make sense Mr. God. if my tach went up to 20K, but realistically i could only rev to 8, then you wouldnt go around saying you have a 20K redline."

I guess. What's the difference between "redline" and "max RPMs" then? I know the latter isn't a term, but realistically the RX-8 can go up to 10,000 as well as your hypothetical car that can go up to 20,000.

12/7/2008 9:34:58 PM

LOL


on topic: I think the 135i is sexy!

12/7/2008 11:20:03 PM

^^my head's spinning over the argument being made here.

12/7/2008 11:22:22 PM

well why not just make ten louder?

well, because its one more. its one more.

12/7/2008 11:24:42 PM

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"I guess. What's the difference between "redline" and "max RPMs" then? I know the latter isn't a term, but realistically the RX-8 can go up to 10,000 as well as your hypothetical car that can go up to 20,000."

im speechless...

12/7/2008 11:31:28 PM

:carlface:

12/7/2008 11:47:01 PM

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"What's the difference between "redline" and "max RPMs" then? I know the latter isn't a term, but realistically the RX-8 can go up to 10,000 as well as your hypothetical car that can go up to 20,000."

this guy must be a Poly Sci or Communications major haha

12/8/2008 12:17:09 AM

WTF?

Here is some info though.....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redline

12/8/2008 12:33:02 AM

I guess by gronke's logic...a cars top speed is whatever the speedometer can go up to.

12/8/2008 1:26:15 AM

^

Or what the tires are rated for, lol

12/8/2008 7:56:01 AM

I'm upgrading my speedometer so my car can go faster!1

12/8/2008 8:01:31 AM

I'm nominating that post for the DUMBEST POST OF THE YEAR AWARD.

12/8/2008 11:31:26 AM

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"What's the difference between "redline" and "max RPMs" then?"

hahaha

12/8/2008 9:16:42 PM

Good god its hard to tell sarcasm with some of you, but I hope this thread is floating with it. Bragging about ANYTHING to do with a RX8 is just stupid.

12/8/2008 11:11:06 PM

i can assure you Mr. Diggler, that none of that is/was sarcasm.

12/8/2008 11:12:20 PM

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"i can assure you Mr. Diggler, that none of that is/was sarcasm."

12/8/2008 11:17:35 PM

diggler my niggler

12/8/2008 11:24:44 PM

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"What's the difference between "redline" and "max RPMs" then?"

I don't know much about cars, but damn, that's just... wow.

12/9/2008 2:27:21 AM

Can we just go ahead and ban God from posting in the Garage? At least DNL doesn't pretend like he knows his stuff.

12/9/2008 2:54:36 AM

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"The engine didn't rev as freely as I thought it would (took me a second to get used to the delay in the rev matching on downshifts)."

could just be a heavy-ish flywheel. This is understandable on a luxury type of car, as it makes it a lot easier to start from a dead stop.


As far as "redline" vs "max rpms" :

If you consider the "redline" to be literally where the red line is on the tach, it does not always mean it is exactly at the rev limiter. For example: the V6/GT Mitsubishi Eclipse has a 6000 rpm "redline" on the tach but a 6200 rpm rev limiter. If you are using the term "redline" to essentially mean the same as "rev limiter," then it may seem like a pointless/dumb distinction.

For the Rx-8, the rev limiter is I believe 9000 rpm, meaning you would want to shift before the needle physically crosses the red line on the tach. You can reflash the ECU to raise it of course (Racing Beat PCM flash goes up to 9300), allowing the needle the physically go past the red line on the tach without hitting fuel cut. I've driven a completely stock Rx-8 once and it falls off pretty hard after 8500, so you might as well shift before you get to the "redline," in both the literal sense of the tachometer and the sense of the rev limiter.

[Edited on December 9, 2008 at 11:38 AM. Reason : the anarchy of language]

12/9/2008 11:36:38 AM

^i think you misunderstood his question. He's saying that because his tach says 10,000rpm that he can rev that high.

12/9/2008 1:00:24 PM

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"could just be a heavy-ish flywheel. This is understandable on a luxury type of car, as it makes it a lot easier to start from a dead stop."

I understand that. I have a ~20lb flywheel for the v8 944 (iirc) It revs pretty freely and very easily, but still completely streetable. So I understand the effect of a heavier flywheel and have attributed that as such. There were times when I thought I was still driving the 944 and was caught off guard when the engine didn't respond the same But overall, it is a VERY solid car. I loved it.

12/9/2008 1:31:35 PM

^^ I guess I gave him more credit than that...

12/9/2008 7:22:10 PM

^I don't think you read his entire post because there is no way you could assume otherwise.

12/9/2008 7:36:16 PM