http://cbs2.com/local/Sarah.Palin.mannequin.2.849299.html

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"Halloween Palin Prop Sparks Controversy In WeHo WEST HOLLYWOOD, Calif. (AP) ? A Halloween decoration showing a mannequin dressed as vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin hanging by a noose from the roof of a West Hollywood home is drawing giggles from some passers-by and gasps of outrage from others. The mannequin is dressed in brunet wig, glasses and a red business suit. Another mannequin dressed as John McCain emerges from a flaming chimney. Chad Michael Morisette, who lives in the house, told CBS 2 News that drivers and bus passengers have been stopping to snap pictures of the macabre scene. Morisette says the effigy would be out of bounds at any other time of year, but it's within the spirit of Halloween. He says "it should be seen as art, and as within the month of October. It's Halloween, it's time to be scary it's time to be spooky." (© 2008 The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.)"

What do yall think?

As disgusting as it is, I think it ought to be allowed. The guy who did it is a total douche, don't get me wrong, but, well, it's protected. And to be fair, I'd say the same thing if it were an Obama effigy.

Have at it!

10/28/2008 8:19:14 PM

this is new

10/28/2008 8:23:26 PM

message_topic.aspx?topic=539332&page=83#12212293

10/28/2008 8:23:26 PM

thank you for pointing out that this was buried in another thread

10/28/2008 8:24:00 PM

Very tacky.

I have mixed thoughts mainly because if it was Obama on a noose it would clearly be construed as racially motivated.

On the other hand I understand the argument that is is in the spirit of halloween. Maybe the mixed answer would be do something that doesn't involve the bloody history of our past, like waterboard them?

10/28/2008 8:25:04 PM

So was the point of this thread really to discuss the limits of free expression?

Or was it to justify devoting an entire thread to whining about Obama "crazies."

10/28/2008 8:39:42 PM

i find it funny that a hanging dummy depicting an actual person gets less attention than a noose hanging with nobody in it

10/28/2008 8:41:03 PM

^^ actually, yes, the point was to question the limits of free expression. I'm sorry that you are too stupid to see that

10/28/2008 8:47:46 PM

So what government agency has told him to remove it?

10/28/2008 8:48:49 PM

FAIL

10/28/2008 8:50:03 PM

why does that matter, douchebag?

10/28/2008 8:52:42 PM

Might as well lock this thread, duke, as Boone has totally shitted it up. thanks, asshole

10/28/2008 8:53:23 PM

Really, though.

What government body is forcing him to remove this?


You wanted us to discuss this controversial topic, right? I'm just making sure it's controversial before I start typing up an essay.

10/28/2008 8:54:47 PM

ummmm, it doesn't matter if a gov't entity is forcing him to remove it. you are trying to hedge this towards an avenue that I wasn't looking at. My topic was pretty simple: what do you think are the limits in this situation?

10/28/2008 9:06:17 PM

I think its really fucked up, but I see no reason for him to take it down.

10/28/2008 9:10:32 PM

Quote :

"My topic was pretty simple"

So simple, in fact, that the thread was pointless.

Unless you had an ulterior motive...



And I'm trying to hedge this thread towards... wait wut?

10/28/2008 9:11:47 PM

I guarantee you there is one super pissed off HOA president somewhere.

10/28/2008 10:19:23 PM

Quote :

"On the other hand I understand the argument that is is in the spirit of halloween"

it almost seems like they're just using Halloween as an excuse to be able to do this

10/28/2008 10:58:40 PM

we already talked about this days ago, aaronburro. whats your point for dragging it out again in its own thread?

are feeling sad and blue about how McCain has flushed his campaign down the shitter?

I guess you must be. I mean he's got JOE THE UNLICENSED PLUMBER runnign around the campaign trail, telling folks that a vote for Obama equals "Death to Israel"

what, isn't Palin running around talking batshit crazytalk enough for them? now Joe the Plumber?

I mean even FOX News, for chrissakes, cant even handle it anymore.

hey, maybe i should make a new thread about Joe the Plumber talking crazy talk, to the point that Fox News has to distance themselves with a disclaimer. because god knows no one is going to find that BURIED in the other running threads, like where that Palin-effigy story is.

hey, lets use this thread to revisit any story currently being talked about in another thread, that way no one will ever miss any story!!

this will be fun!

10/29/2008 2:32:41 AM

from the other thread:

Quote :

"i think the hanging one, especially, should be considered hate speech."

and should be protected. You have a right to say all the hateful things you want, you simply cannot act on them.

10/29/2008 5:18:02 AM

^ Is that true in all cases?

If there was a crowd of KKK members that gathered in some big city and chanted "Kill all Muslims/Blacks/Jews" for hours and hours for several days, and then a bunch of Muslims/Blacks/Jews are massacred in that state for a month after the gathering, wouldn't the KKK members be indicted for inciting violence?

I am sure in Europe they would be, and I have a feeling in the US as well.

What if they shouted "Kill Bush"? Would that be protected as well?

10/29/2008 6:04:51 AM

thx, too, joe, for being a douche

10/29/2008 6:45:49 AM

1) I do think this should be protected.

2) Can you IMAGINE the outrage if it was Obama being hung in effigy?? "OH MAN WE TERRIBLE AMERICANS ARE STILL NOT OVER OUR RACIST PAST!!"

10/29/2008 7:20:44 AM

I think it is stupid, but it is free speech.

However, I do hate the double standard that if it was a person of color it would be a hate crime.

10/29/2008 8:31:58 AM

^ thats what im saying...

im no hypocrite...i think this guy is an idiot and i would never hang someone in effigy. but if he wants to, more power to him...

but the double standard is absurd.

10/29/2008 8:40:39 AM

well we did have a bad habit of just hangin black folk cause they were black.

jus sayin.

10/29/2008 8:51:00 AM

Yeah but its hypocrisy....its either acceptable to hang people in effigy or its not...we dont need any reverse racism....we already have plenty of that

10/29/2008 9:20:57 AM

speaking of hanging a black man:

Two arrested after Obama effigy found on campus

Quote :

"Two men have been arrested in connection with an effigy of Sen. Barack Obama that was hung outside a building at the University of Kentucky in Lexington, police said Thursday. Joe Fischer, left, and Hunter Bush were arrested on disorderly conduct and other charges, police said. Authorities found a life-size effigy of the Democratic presidential candidate hanging from a tree outside the school's Mines and Minerals building on Wednesday morning, police said. Police said they arrested Joe Fischer, 22, a senior at the university, and Hunter Bush, 21, a former student at Bluegrass Community and Technical College. "This was a serious incident. It caused a lot of wounds to be opened from racial tension," Monroe said. After following leads and conducting interviews, investigators determined that Fischer and Bush had asked members of a University of Kentucky fraternity for items to make the effigy but did not tell the fraternity members why they wanted them, Monroe said. Fischer and Bush were arrested on charges of disorderly conduct, burglary and theft by unlawful taking, police said. The burglary and theft charges involve allegedly removing items from a room in the fraternity house. "We had a pre-established dialogue with this fraternity, and they spoke to us very openly and freely," Monroe "

Granted this is on public, not private property, but it was bound to happen.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/10/30/obama.effigy/index.html?iref=mpstoryview

10/31/2008 10:19:24 AM

so they're being arrested for "stealing stuff" from the fraternity? Sounds like the fraternity members are covering their asses. If they're being arrested for putting it up that sounds like a double standard, unless there's some law against doing it on public property.

10/31/2008 10:29:52 AM

^^what's really funny, to me at least, is that the palin effigy is STILL linked on drudge, after what, 5 days?

yet nary a mention of the obama effigy

OMFG DOUBLE STANDARD

[Edited on October 31, 2008 at 10:50 AM. Reason : .]

10/31/2008 10:50:08 AM

Someone please answer this post of mine:

Quote :

"^ Is that true in all cases? If there was a crowd of KKK members that gathered in some big city and chanted "Kill all Muslims/Blacks/Jews" for hours and hours for several days, and then a bunch of Muslims/Blacks/Jews are massacred in that state for a month after the gathering, wouldn't the KKK members be indicted for inciting violence? I am sure in Europe they would be, and I have a feeling in the US as well. What if they shouted "Kill Bush"? Would that be protected as well? If not, what if Bush was targeted right after such a demo? Would the lead demonstrators be arrested?"

10/31/2008 5:19:32 PM

refer to

National Socialist Party of America v. Skokie, Illinois

10/31/2008 6:06:18 PM

tacky, low-class, and he shouldn't have done it, but no government entity should stop him.

also, i distinctly remember the argument from the left in the past that depictions of hangings/lynchings are inherently racist. I argued that this position was completely absurd. Looks like I was right. Again.

10/31/2008 6:10:00 PM

you should hang bush in effigy.

or obama, after he becomes pres

10/31/2008 9:52:06 PM

i would love to hang obama

10/31/2008 10:00:15 PM

^ you have 4 days left to say things like that without getting a visit from the Secret Service.

10/31/2008 10:01:29 PM

bring it on

10/31/2008 10:02:42 PM

Huh? That was not a threat, I know someone who was visited for saying less than that on another message board. And I think someone HERE even has gotten a visit before too.

Even though he's a black, muslim, terrorist, the Secret Service is still going to do their job.

10/31/2008 10:08:07 PM

^

i hope they surprise me

[Edited on October 31, 2008 at 10:15 PM. Reason : ]

10/31/2008 10:09:47 PM

socialist black muslim terr0rist

[Edited on October 31, 2008 at 10:19 PM. Reason : b]

10/31/2008 10:18:26 PM

Does anyone here get suspended or banned anymore, or can you just say whatever you want?

10/31/2008 10:38:55 PM