instead of a used 335 or a G37 sedan?

10/7/2008 10:01:34 PM

THAT'S CORRECT

$30k for 3xx hp and a 6 speed (nevermind it's a pig)

10/7/2008 10:02:29 PM

It looks very nice. So does the lifetime power train warranty.

But the dealers suck ass

10/7/2008 10:07:49 PM

personally i would, but i'm kinda biased since i've had a hard on for them since the concept came out.

10/7/2008 11:22:29 PM

I would, but only if it was black with black rims, limo tint, and some nasty modifications. Stock for stock I'd go with the Bimmer.

[Edited on October 7, 2008 at 11:37 PM. Reason : l]

10/7/2008 11:36:38 PM

I wouldn't buy it new. It's going to be a relatively common car with bad gas mileage that will depreciate quickly. You're better off getting a good condition older car that is past the steepest part of its depreciation curve.

10/8/2008 2:59:15 AM

Interesting comparison. I'd probably test drive them both. I like handling though so I'd probably go with the 335i

10/8/2008 7:53:10 AM

335. Was that even a serious question?

10/8/2008 8:07:50 AM

Odly i feel like the bimmer is not the " LOOK AT ME!!!" car here

I'd wait for the 335d

10/8/2008 8:12:34 AM

425lb-ft of torque

10/8/2008 8:39:10 AM

well the challenger gets the cool factor, but it will lose races. the 335 with some simple mods will be faaast.

10/8/2008 8:56:44 AM

335. Was that even a serious question?

10/8/2008 8:57:41 AM

what about a challenger R/T with a supachaaga? or a trubo?

10/8/2008 8:59:42 AM

Quote :

"lifetime power train warranty"

I have driven a Dodge Challenger, and they are really nice cars.

That said, dont let the Dodge Lifetime warrenty be a factor in your decision. That warrenty has alot of stipulations to it. You have to get the oil changed every 3k miles at a dodge dealership, you have to get all the recommended service done at the dodge dealership, and so on.

10/8/2008 9:14:34 AM

I'm a fan of it. It seems like it would make an enjoyable DD, especially with the lifetime powertrain warranty. I'd keep it stock (Other than an exhaust) and just drive the fuck out of it.

10/8/2008 9:22:41 AM

fuck no. 335 all the way.

10/8/2008 9:58:56 AM

Yeah, I'd rather havea 335 than a challenger...

10/8/2008 10:05:11 AM

Wont you be paying about $10k more though? Although I guess you could just snag a used one, but you still wont have the unlimited powertrain warranty, which would be nice with a DD.

10/8/2008 10:12:46 AM

i want one.. 1970 please

10/8/2008 10:56:06 AM

Quote :

"what about a challenger R/T with a supachaaga? or a trubo?"

give the aftermarket time to catch up on the dodge and it will be hands down winner

10/8/2008 11:02:39 AM

I've had a 05 Ram and my experience with dealers was iffy, especially compared to Infiniti. When is the 335d coming out, and will it cost $50k?

10/8/2008 11:05:07 AM

^^ word joel

10/8/2008 11:12:06 AM

Quote :

"Wont you be paying about $10k more though? Although I guess you could just snag a used one, but you still wont have the unlimited powertrain warranty, which would be nice with a DD."

I don't trust dealerships, except higher ends like maybe Porsche, BMW, etc. Having worked at a domestic dealership and familiar with 2 others (I don't know how stereotypical they all are really...), I can say I wouldn't trust them to change my oil. Having to take my car in for everything to maintain that lifetime warranty and spend all that money? No thanks... I'd rather do my own work (ie: change oil, etc) and save the difference so that way when something does happen and I take it the dealership/respectable shop, the money can just come out of that pot. If the car is a DD and you don't abuse it, you shouldn't really have to worry about the lifetime powertrain warranty. Also, taking it to the shop, they can make mistakes and or even cause damage to your vehicle, thus costing you more time. Time is money though and there are too many viewpoints to argue this specific topic. I'm just saying lifetime powertrain warranty isn't worth all those stipulations. That's not a very good selling point on the car if I were to purchase it.

I think the 335 would be more practical as a DD. Cost aside, it's 335 hands down for me. Realistically between the two, I would hold out for a slightly used 335 over a new challenger r/t, like you mentioned. I think there's a less of a chance for that kind of car to be abused if purchased from a respectable owner...



[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 11:23 AM. Reason : .]

10/8/2008 11:21:11 AM

is BMW's 4 year no maintenance cost transferable from one owner to another, b/c if so its a no brainer.

10/8/2008 11:23:38 AM

The Challenger does look sweet tho. I think I enjoy looking at cars more than owning them...I get bored with any car after 6 months.

I went to a local Dodge and the badger was doing the "we've only got this one in, and who knows when more will come, you should get this one...." routine. I'll take a manual one for a spin when they get one to see how I like it. The car looked RIGHT.

10/8/2008 11:33:07 AM

^ I hate that. It's always a "buy now" pressure. You can always request to order what you want for no extra charge, you just have to wait for it. The dealer locates costs extra though ... You shoulda shot the badger. they aren't even native to this state...

10/8/2008 11:38:49 AM

http://www.vortechsuperchargers.com/product.php?p=146&cat_key=25




http://www.procharger.com/hemi_challenger.shtml


these are for the 6.1's, but iirc both companies are actively working on the R/T's

[Edited on October 8, 2008 at 11:56 AM. Reason : -]

10/8/2008 11:55:37 AM

It's for SRT8 only at the moment
http://www.hennesseyperformance.com/ListItems.php?cart=bHxHPNHR&DoThis=Dodge+Challenger&ActionReq=Where

However, couldn't you just use the 5.7 Charger stuff on the challenger?

http://www.rpmoutlet.com/300ati.htm

10/8/2008 12:03:13 PM

Ill pass on both and take my car

But then again im biased.

10/8/2008 12:20:08 PM

I'd take your car





shoehorn that motor in my civic, then scrap the body

10/8/2008 12:42:57 PM

don't most of the hemis blow up do to weird tuning ??

10/8/2008 1:08:54 PM

DO TO AGE?

(IT'S "DUE" SON, "DUE")

10/8/2008 1:19:12 PM

do-ly note-ed

10/8/2008 1:50:39 PM

^^^i don't know of any blowing up, at least not regularly. the issue is the code hasn't been cracked on the stock computer, so tuning thus far as been difficult and limited. so, you either band aid it with a piggy back/handheld flash type unit, or spend $texas on a full stand alone.

10/8/2008 6:54:22 PM

335. Was that even a serious question?

10/8/2008 7:05:21 PM

335. Was that even a serious question?

10/8/2008 7:10:42 PM

335. Was that even a serious question?

10/8/2008 7:29:45 PM

Well shit, I thought it'd be more debatable.

10/8/2008 9:57:47 PM

It is, those tards aren't the only people in the world.

10/8/2008 10:01:34 PM

I think what saabturbo meant to say is.

It is if you're a tard.

10/9/2008 12:55:23 AM

Yes, I agree! The 335i is the only choice, if you're a tard.

10/9/2008 1:41:50 AM

Civic EX , Chevy Cobalt, or 135i

I cant decide.

10/9/2008 7:28:15 AM

obviously the Civic EX. Gas mileage FTW!

10/9/2008 7:58:29 AM

the chevy cobalt xfE has the best fuel economy in its class!

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 8:02 AM. Reason : .]

10/9/2008 8:02:16 AM

I love how Chevy made a "fuel economy" model by giving the car a taller final drive and lower rolling resistance tires. Thats amazing stuff!

10/9/2008 8:40:55 AM

Quote :

"Yes, I agree! The 335i is the only choice, if you're a tard."

I'm guessing your dream 'life' is to live in a trailer, have a satellite dish that dwarfs your home, and a vette? oh and married to el borracho?

10/9/2008 12:56:13 PM

^easy on the sweeping generalizations

10/9/2008 1:06:12 PM

^^ See, that's what is pathetic about people like you. You're so superficial that you think everyone defines themselves by their car. You obviously do since you think like that, which is (As I just said) pathetic. A car rarely says more than the fact that the driver of said car liked said car it enough to buy it (Or lease it), or they're borrowing it, or it was given to them, etc. People who define themselves by what they drive are absolutely pathetic.

That's why you'd apparently be embarrassed to be seen driving a corvette while I could care less. It's all about whether or not someone enjoys the car, not what you think the car says about them.

[Edited on October 9, 2008 at 1:24 PM. Reason : ]

10/9/2008 1:23:18 PM

Can I help it if I like quality and aesthetics over garbage?

Even I know that a 335i is a much nicer car than an Evo. If i had the choice back then I would have gone with the 335i. There is a distinct difference right down to the details between BMW or most German automotive manufacturers vs. domestic/Japanese econo boxes. You can call it status all you want but that's just because you're ignorant and think a Dodge is the better choice.

10/9/2008 3:07:46 PM

Quote :

"Can I help it if I like quality and aesthetics over garbage?"

I don't know, but the problem is that you weren't talking about quality or aesthetics, you were talking about making inferences about other aspects of someones life based upon their car. In case you forgot, you made it clear that simply saying that one disagrees with the 335i being the only option means they also fit the following stereotypes:

Quote :

"I'm guessing your dream 'life' is to live in a trailer, have a satellite dish that dwarfs your home, and a vette? oh and married to el borracho?"

10/9/2008 5:33:42 PM