http://www.newsobserver.com/264/story/1228720.html

Chapel Hill looks over the next couple years to scale back and eventually turn the unofficial event into a "community themed event".

One more reason why that place over the hill sucks. Hopefully Hillsborough St takes a hint and starts really ramping up.

9/23/2008 7:50:14 AM

I know they've been talking about doing this for awhile. It's weird though, I went in 2001 and I don't remember any checkpoints.

It sucks you have a few assholes who ruin the fun for everyone else. I wouldn't dream of Raleigh letting an event like this happen.

9/23/2008 8:02:22 AM

Canceling a popular party that's steeped in tradition and replacing it with a lame roped off event where a checked ID will net you $0.50 pizza and a jump in a bounce castle. Where have I heard this before?

[Edited on September 23, 2008 at 8:08 AM. Reason : -]

9/23/2008 8:07:38 AM

more proof that Chapel Hill is full of fags with their panties hiked up their asses

[Edited on September 23, 2008 at 8:13 AM. Reason : time for Hillsborough to shine!]

9/23/2008 8:12:54 AM

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"Curran his preference is to see sales stopped after 9 p.m"

wut?

this is about the worst idea. now they will have 25,000 drunks on the roads before 9:00 PM, which is more dangerous than 25,000 drunks on the roads after 9:00 PM

9/23/2008 8:22:32 AM

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"One more reason why that place over the hill sucks. Hopefully Hillsborough St takes a hint and starts really ramping up."

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"more proof that Chapel Hill is full of fags with their panties hiked up their asses"

.... what the hell is wrong with you people? Do you have no long-term memory?
The town of Chapel Hill has been more than accommodating for the yearly Halloween party, considering how crowded and dangerous it is and how many underage people are running around drunk all night. If they want to scale back on it to try to decrease their liability, then that's their right.
Are you forgetting that the Raleigh police and town council have effectively shut down all partying in Raleigh, as a direct result of a little party we used to have called Brent Road?
Time for "Hillsborough St to shine"? are you fucking kidding? They won't even allow students to walk down the street for 30 minutes after football or basketball upsets. Good luck getting a town-sanctioned event to close the street down to allow drunk people to run around in costumes all night

9/23/2008 8:27:58 AM

Quote :

".... what the hell is wrong with you people? Do you have no long-term memory? The town of Chapel Hill has been more than accommodating for the yearly Halloween party, considering how crowded and dangerous it is and how many underage people are running around drunk all night. If they want to scale back on it to try to decrease their liability, then that's their right. Are you forgetting that the Raleigh police and town council have effectively shut down all partying in Raleigh, as a direct result of a little party we used to have called Brent Road? Time for "Hillsborough St to shine"? are you fucking kidding? They won't even allow students to walk down the street for 30 minutes after football or basketball upsets. Good luck getting a town-sanctioned event to close the street down to allow drunk people to run around in costumes all night"

i have to agree

im still shocked that the hike hasnt been shut down

[Edited on September 23, 2008 at 8:43 AM. Reason : 

9/23/2008 8:36:51 AM

yeah.... kinda does make the hike king daddy party now..

9/23/2008 8:54:09 AM

there's no way city of raleigh shuts down hillsborough street this year. that just invites everyone from chapel hill to come here instead

9/23/2008 9:02:15 AM

dont worry, the Hillsborough Hike Night will be shut down soon enough


the halloween party on franklin street has got super ghetto recently anyways, I probably would never go again either way

9/23/2008 9:05:27 AM

Raleigh killed the brentroad party, ncsu killed pigstock....

9/23/2008 9:15:33 AM

Raleigh/NCSU will continue to shut down partying. The Hike's days are numbered.

9/23/2008 10:19:15 AM

Quote :

"Quote : "Curran his preference is to see sales stopped after 9 p.m" wut? this is about the worst idea. now they will have 25,000 drunks on the roads before 9:00 PM, which is more dangerous than 25,000 drunks on the roads after 9:00 PM"

This wont happen, unless Chapel Hill is willing to pay all the bars for business lost. Its a simple bit of economics. Im waiting to see the business response. They definatly arnt supporting this. This is called the police are too F-ing lazy.

And actually lately Raleigh/NCSU have been supportive of the Hike, actually shutting down the ST and whatnot

9/23/2008 10:24:00 AM

i'll keep this open for a bit....but the other thread works just fine

message_topic.aspx?topic=541916

9/23/2008 10:39:58 AM

My apologies. I figured this was news related and didnt think to check there for it.

9/23/2008 10:48:07 AM

I don't think they will ever shut down the hike. All of those places are public bars. Are they going to close every bar for the entire weekend before exams? They can't tell the buisnesses to close for the week just because they expect a large crowd of people to show up.

[Edited on September 23, 2008 at 7:47 PM. Reason : .]

9/23/2008 7:46:58 PM

I've heard a lot of talk about Chapel Hill trying to scale down the event. But the only progress they've made is 1 less bus to get people to downtown which wont make a bit of difference. Its a symbolic gesture at best, and nothing else will happen. And yeah the bars aren't going to give up that $. But with all the talk of how much safer its going to be this year, if anything there is going to be a larger crowd.

9/23/2008 8:03:44 PM

Quote :

"I don't think they will ever shut down the hike. All of those places are public bars. Are they going to close every bar for the entire weekend before exams? They can't tell the buisnesses to close for the week just because they expect a large crowd of people to show up."

they arent public bars, they are private businesses

just like all the houses on brent road are private residences

if the city wants to do it, they will find a way

9/23/2008 8:31:11 PM

Quote :

"Are you forgetting that the Raleigh police and town council have effectively shut down all partying in Raleigh, as a direct result of a little party we used to have called Brent Road? Time for "Hillsborough St to shine"? are you fucking kidding? They won't even allow students to walk down the street for 30 minutes after football or basketball upsets. Good luck getting a town-sanctioned event to close the street down to allow drunk people to run around in costumes all night"

I agree. Raleigh hates students. Chapel Hill loves students. cracking down on Franklin St isn't going to change that fundamental difference. The Halloween party will still go on, unlike a certain Raleigh block party

9/23/2008 8:44:42 PM

chapel hill is a college town, raleigh is the state capital; what do you expect

9/23/2008 8:49:37 PM

Quote :

".... what the hell is wrong with you people? Do you have no long-term memory? The town of Chapel Hill has been more than accommodating for the yearly Halloween party, considering how crowded and dangerous it is and how many underage people are running around drunk all night. If they want to scale back on it to try to decrease their liability, then that's their right. Are you forgetting that the Raleigh police and town council have effectively shut down all partying in Raleigh, as a direct result of a little party we used to have called Brent Road? Time for "Hillsborough St to shine"? are you fucking kidding? They won't even allow students to walk down the street for 30 minutes after football or basketball upsets. Good luck getting a town-sanctioned event to close the street down to allow drunk people to run around in costumes all night "

agreed.

9/23/2008 8:59:59 PM

Quote :

"Good luck getting a town-sanctioned event to close the street down to allow drunk people to run around in costumes all night"

Wait, isn't that exactly what they did last year? Closed the street?

9/24/2008 1:29:47 AM

i don't know. i'm not a student anymore or have any desire to hang out with drunk 19 year olds.

even if that is so, you can be sure that Raleigh will put the kibosh on that before it gets anywhere close to the size of the Franklin St pary.

9/24/2008 7:13:09 AM

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"dont worry, the Hillsborough Hike Night will be shut down soon enough"

Oh really? The city is going to force those bars to close for a specified date? Force them to change their drink special for a day? I'd like to see them try.

9/24/2008 7:46:08 AM

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"This wont happen, unless Chapel Hill is willing to pay all the bars for business lost. Its a simple bit of economics. Im waiting to see the business response. They definatly arnt supporting this. This is called the police are too F-ing lazy."

Quote :

"In the Chamber of Commerce poll, 28 percent of downtown businesses said Halloween night had a negative impact on business, compared with 24 percent who reported a boost in revenue. Forty-five percent of businesses reported slight damage from the revelry, and another 19 percent reported major damage to their establishments. Other downtown events got better reviews from business owners, with only 9 percent saying those events were bad for business. http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3583103"

There is also a link in that story to the memo from the Chief of Police that is summarized in both the N&O and WRAL articles:
http://tinyurl.com/halloween-memo

9/24/2008 9:44:06 AM

Don't they usually close the streets and let the revelers walk around in the street? If so, why not just keep the streets open to traffic? Might reduce the crowds a little. I don't care if stupid drunks get hit by cars, it's their own fault for being stupid.

I don't think the town government has the right to order a halt on alcohol sales after 9PM one day of the year if it's 2AM any other day. Business as usual should be permitted, but don't shut down the streets just because it's Halloween.

I'm always firmly opposed to DUI checkpoints, no matter what day it is. It assumes that all motorists are drunk and must prove that they are not (guilty until proven innocent). If you opt to drive on Halloween night, you should be fully aware of the increased possibility of drunk drivers.

And please don't turn it into a lame-ass family fun block party like First Night. I hate having screeching toddlers running around tripping people.

9/24/2008 10:48:40 AM

i never move for small children

its always fun when they get in my way

the kid gets punted and the parents just glare

9/24/2008 11:00:29 AM

N.C. State working on Halloween plan
Raleigh, N.C. — While Chapel Hill authorities plan to rein in Halloween revelers, student groups at North Carolina State are looking to expand their celebration in Raleigh.

Jay Dawkins, student body president at NCSU, said the university community is working with businesses and campus and Raleigh police to plan a safe and successful party along Hillsborough Street.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3599714/

9/24/2008 11:11:16 AM

^Ha-ha, I posted in another thread about the time I let this stupid kid plow her shopping cart into me at top speed. It didn't hurt me, but she banged her head into the handle and started to cry. I just glared at her.

9/24/2008 11:12:28 AM

^^ Sounds like someone just read this message board and posted a news article.

9/24/2008 11:34:10 AM

I like how WRAL is making it a big deal and doesnt have a story yet.

9/24/2008 12:13:45 PM

we are the source of news for wral

9/24/2008 12:21:32 PM

Someone get the TWW Chopper in here! We need coverage!

EDIT
Wral just updated:

Quote :

" The event is not town-sponsored, but ended up costing the town approximately $221,000 for security, cleanup, crowd control, emergency medical care and other expenses."

The real reason comes out.

[Edited on September 24, 2008 at 1:01 PM. Reason : update]

9/24/2008 12:50:51 PM

Here's your update
http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/3673018/

CH has decided on at least 2 things..
1) Chapel Hill Transit buses will no longer provide shuttle services to the downtown from area Park and Ride lots.
2) A traffic diversion plan will limit access to the downtown area by reducing lanes on Raleigh Road/N.C. Highway 54, Martin Luther King Drive and East Franklin Street.

If I see any little kids running around, I'm scaring the crap out of them and ask their parents why aren't they home being safe from me.

10/4/2008 3:38:08 PM

wow chapel hill is going to turn into a clusterfuck Halloween night.

and more so then it has been in years past



I really dont see a plan that will work in limiting the Chapel Hell celebration i think they will just have to end up pulling a brent rd and putting police in full force out there telling people to GTFO

10/4/2008 3:45:09 PM

it is time

10/4/2008 4:15:57 PM

Why does everything in the triangle have to be "family-friendly"? If they put some kiddy inflatable shit in the street, I'm going to take it down.

10/4/2008 4:31:51 PM

franklin street was good when it was drunk college students having fun, i think the city doesn't like the changing demographic of the party

10/4/2008 4:31:57 PM

when you've got 30000 girls dressed as a "slutty _______" there's bound to be some "unwanted demographics" rolling up there

10/4/2008 4:45:25 PM

marko, you gonna be a pink panther?

10/4/2008 4:47:49 PM

^^ well no shit, but its gotten pretty out of control in the past few years

10/4/2008 4:50:13 PM

i went once and thought it was over rated as fuck...maybe it was cause i wasnt drunk though

10/4/2008 5:14:36 PM

you have to be dressed up, drunk out of your mind and preferably with hot unc girls to understand

10/4/2008 5:16:41 PM

They are probably trying to avoid a shooting or rash of robberies. As much as I hate to see a party squashed it was only a matter of time, especially with Durham so close by.

10/4/2008 5:18:33 PM

^^

lol i was there in the mid 90s in the rain on some psychedelics

i can easily say that it was never as crazy fun as that ever again

10/4/2008 5:51:22 PM

Quote :

"angerous it is and how many underage people are running around drunk all night. "

Say it isn't SO! ZOMG underage drinkers

You sir a fucking douche.

Who gives a flying fuck if a 19 year old is drinking a beer on halloween. Perhaps the police should stick to real police work such as breaking up fights, catching rapists, getting drug dealers, handing out DUI's, and keeping the Halloween crowd under control. Instead of harassing 18-20 year olds that are forced to sneak beer in their pants pockets.

I see though Chapel Hill has learned from NCSU about being a tradition killer.

[Edited on October 4, 2008 at 7:44 PM. Reason : L]

10/4/2008 7:43:14 PM

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"Who gives a flying fuck if a 19 year old is drinking a beer on halloween."

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"fights"

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"rapists"

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"DUI's"

10/4/2008 8:03:51 PM

i went to chapel hill on halloween 1 year, right after i had turned 21 and never got carded all night.

and i do not look old, people still ask me if i'm in school and i'm 26 now.

10/4/2008 9:11:20 PM

Quote :

"franklin street was good when it was drunk college students having fun, i think the city doesn't like the changing demographic of the party"

Very true. I think that has more to do with it than drunk college kids.

10/6/2008 2:14:27 AM

They need to keep it the same, except have buses available to take people to Greenville.

Like, if you're not wearing a costume and you haven't visited Chapel Hill since the Halloween before, you gotta take your ass to Greenville.

10/6/2008 3:01:10 AM