I've got some money burning a hole in my pocket...somebody sell me a decent bike. I'm looking for something around 600cc, not too old, road rash doesn't matter, no major repairs/maintenance needed. I'll take a cruiser, standard, crossover or sportbike. [Edited on August 6, 2008 at 9:34 AM. Reason : .]
8/6/2008 9:33:40 AM
put it in an Roth IRA
8/6/2008 9:56:03 AM
because 3k in a roth will double your mpg and possibly save you $150/ month...And the stock market is just booming right now [Edited on August 6, 2008 at 10:00 AM. Reason : .]
8/6/2008 10:00:23 AM
I will be selling an 86 honda nighthawk 450 with 12k for $1800. Its no 600, but it get 55-60 mpg.
8/6/2008 10:03:11 AM
I've got a Scottrade account I play fantasy football with...I really just want a bike to go on weekend trips/visit friends and have some kind of fun in my daily work routine.[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 10:14 AM. Reason : t]
8/6/2008 10:06:48 AM
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8/6/2008 10:34:59 AM
and still... going down..... durrr.....and if he's smart and buys the right bike... it won't lose much value... seems like every old bike no matter how old goes for 3-4k and if you didn't do the math $150/month is 1800 per year... thats a 2 year payback aka a "no brainer" (the 150/month thing is my situation with my 15mpg jeep though)
8/6/2008 10:38:15 AM
^is the OP going to ride the thing every day, rain/shine/winter/etc?add cost of insurance cost of maintenanceand so oni can hardly see the benefit, unless homeboy is going to sell his current DD and go hardcore.not to say that the fun factor and whatnot are great benefits and usually outweigh other 'costs'
8/6/2008 10:49:51 AM
haha yeah with me that's with diversity... and chain/oil/tire costs included.keep in mind i'm $70/week @ 15 mpg... so thats $26.25/week @ 40mpg (conservative) or 37.5% of my original cost. So 70*52=$3,640 * .375 = $1,365 or a savings of $2,275 just in fuel.... so say you spend 1 grand on chains.. tires oil etc. and use a 70% usage rate you're still making out like a bandit.
8/6/2008 11:03:41 AM
If I make the decision to sell my SV in the next week or so, I'll let you know.
8/6/2008 11:33:11 AM
anyone who buys a bike just to save/make money is an idiot. the only way that's going to happen is getting one for free or a few hundred dollars at most and riding the hell out of it as your only vehicle.anyone who says investing money isn't a good thing even in a weak market is an even bigger idiot. i know i want to pay as much as possible for my appreciating assets! we've all see the silly little 5th grade math justifications thousands of times for buying a bike or high mpg beater car as spare/primary transportation, it just doesn't work no matter how you try to spin it.[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 12:29 PM. Reason : .]
8/6/2008 12:28:03 PM
The money isn't really an issue, but I don't want to spend 7 or 8k on something new. I just want to try it out, if I don't like it I figure I can sell a decent one back for what I sold it for...or I could total it and be done with it, who knows? It would be nice to get 50mpg going to Morehead every now and then, and I'm pretty flexible about leaving under good weather. I was thinking a naked SV or a old Monster would be the way to go. I've wanted a bike for a while when I was in school.
8/6/2008 12:36:51 PM
especially a sportbike...new tires every few thousand miles, comparatively expensive insurance, prob $500 as an absolute bare minimum for gear (and will spend more to really outfit yourself properly).if your car doesn't get very good mileage, and you get a fairly pedestrian motorcycle for maybe $1000, I think you could save a little money. For a $3k sportbike, I'd expect only to offset a little of the costs of owning a motorcycle with the decreased fuel consumption (but even a 600 sportbike isn't gonna get 50+ mpg or anything).don't get a Monster or any other Ducati if money is a concern.
8/6/2008 12:41:53 PM
I guess i'm a different case than yall aparently cause: 1. The insurance on a bike compared to my primary insurance isn't shit (less than 15% of it) 2. A low mileage bike is not a beater and doesn't have that much additional maintenance other than shimming valves every now and then which I've done. Where a cheap ass car breaks all the time. and would cost you that $150 a month to repair because of starters, clutches etc. Yes bike tires are expensive and i know the front usually goes 12k and the rear around 6k ... But they don't cost more than 4 Goodyear MTRs that last about 15-20k miles on my jeep.3. Most people have a car that gets better than 15 mpg avg and down into the single digits if i just put around downtown all the time.The guy in the office next to me has an sv 650 that AVERAGES 62mpg and that's mostly on independence blvd in Charlotte or for those who don't know what that's like think capital blvd Raleigh.There is also another guy in the office with a gs500 that gets almost 70 with poorly tuned carbs that idles @ 3k rpm.But anyway these things don't matter to him... I'd look for the sv if i were you its a fun lil bike to kick around on its plenty fast and doesn't have a high strung sport bike engine.P.S. ↑ I was using 40...[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 2:45 PM. Reason : .]
8/6/2008 2:45:01 PM
SV FTW dude!!!! It has all the power you'll need and then some to be honest, lots of torque, 6 speed, good handling. It's got enough to get you into trouble if you're an idiot with it and it's should have enough to keep you satisfied for quite some time if you actually try to learn to extract all of the performance. It's very tossable IMO, the engine is pretty low in the chassis and it responds nicely. Although I will note that the stock suspension is the place where Suzuki saved a bit of money. Honestly, the suspension is not bad at all for me, I love it. It's just if you were to spend more you'd get a better suspension. I haven't noticed anything about it that I don't like though, it feels just fine going over bumps and things even when turning. It feels very composed to me and the suspension seems good for street use as well as spirited riding. The broad range of torque is very, very nice and there is serious pull from 6000-9000rpm. The engine is probably my favorite thing about the bike, I'd definitely go with this over a GS500 or some other anemic inline twin. I can't imagine enjoying that after riding something with this kind of soul. It's got me hooked on V-Twins now, haha. If I do upgrade eventually, like in a few years, it will probably be to a Duc 1098 or an RC51. I just love this V-Twin sport bike stuff. Even though it's "slow" to a lot of folks, remember that slow = 0-60 in ~3.6 seconds and the 1/4 mile in just under 12 seconds. That's plenty fast IMO, a lot faster to 60 than anything else I've owned. I also don't think you need much more than that for the street. It sounds really good with an aftermarket exhaust too, but the stock one is silent. If you don't get one with an exhaust, plan on upgrading that with a slip-on system.The Two-Brothers exhaust sounds NASTY (Good nasty):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDXD7gXrWpgI ordered a Leo Vince SBK, which should be here any day now:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0UkpOoQxxEIf you want to get an idea of how fun an SV-650 can be on the street, check this video out. It gets better about halfway in, after he gets out of traffic, then he really opens it up. This is with an upgraded exhaust and a decent, but slightly crazy, euro driver. Note the crappy euro roads and that this is a pointy, late model, fuel injected SV:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7tMotq6FIs&feature=relatedEarlier model SV on the track, note that nasty torque and lazy manner in which he can shift (Note that the first lap appears to be somewhat of a warm up):http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kSD5fo_jnM&feature=related[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 4:04 PM. Reason : ]
8/6/2008 4:02:06 PM
8/6/2008 4:38:22 PM
Model 2003-20061/4 Mile 11.82 sec @ 106.02 mph0-60 mph 3.65 sec0-100 mph 9.94 secRoll-On, 60-80 mph 4.44 secFuel Mileage. 38-50 mpgRange (exc. Reserve) ~130 miYes, it's got 72hp and 47ft.lb., with lots of that torque available over a really broad range, plus it weighs 380lbs. Your CBR probably can't pull out of corners at 5k rpm with much of any power btw, that's the whole "torque" thing I was referring to. I'm not so stupid as to think an SV is the king of the streets, but it's a hell of a bike for a beginner. We both know it's not a slow bike, it's just not super fast. I love it man, lots of usable power for the streets. Plus, do you seriously recommend that beginners should start out on a CBR 600RR? Maybe this guy isn't a beginner, but it sure seems like it to me. My point was simply that the SV has PLENTY of power for an inexperienced rider. I wasn't trying to act like the shit is a fucking liter bike, I simply appreciate it for what it is. Hell, I'm sure the liter bikes enjoy walking all over your 600RR, hitting 100 in under 6 seconds in first gear. That doesn't mean your RR is garbage or that it's slow, especially for a beginner.Honestly, I think any decent rider can appreciate an SV. Only a show off puts it down in an attempt to talk about how awesome their own bike is, especially in a thread in which the guy is considering an SV as his first bike. I simply told him to get it over a soul-less 500cc Inline-Twin. There's a reason it gets rated very highly in reviews. Btw, if you watch that track video you'll notice that the SV is not having any trouble keeping up with bikes that you obviously think should walk all over it. Riding isn't all about the straight line performance, although the SV is no slouch in that department. It's a great street bike, no matter what you want to think about it. [Edited on August 6, 2008 at 4:58 PM. Reason : ]
8/6/2008 4:41:58 PM
8/6/2008 6:02:31 PM
Yeah, the point was he addressed me talking about a broad range of torque and I pointed out that his is only at high rpm.I understand the concept of a power band...
8/6/2008 6:04:19 PM
I've got some moneys...Sell me your brother's jet ski.
8/6/2008 6:11:23 PM
Btw, this is the mid range I was talking about. I simply doubt the 4 cylinder will pull like the SV at 5k rpm. No doubt in my mind that after 9k it's going to take it. Again, high rpm is not what I was talking about though:http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/Article_Page.aspx?ArticleID=790&Page=1Note that the 599 has an F3 motor tuned for more mid range and less top end. I wouldn't be surprised if the 600RR was similar in the midrange, although I doubt that it's got a lot more mid range than the 599. I am willing to be proven wrong btw, but I wasn't just basing my earlier statement on nothing. Look at the FZ, you're talking about 10-15hp and ~10ft.lb. or so across a lot of that mid-range from what I can see at least. I'm not saying the RR isn't faster, it IS, just that the mid range and top end (Up to 10k, past that it drops off) of the SV is impressive IMO and PLENTY for a beginner.[Edited on August 6, 2008 at 6:48 PM. Reason : ]
8/6/2008 6:35:25 PM
Two-Brothers exhaust on an SV FTW
8/6/2008 7:11:07 PM
^^Dude, we all know you just bought an sv650 and all, but jesus, just cause you own one doesn't make it the greatest bike ever built. Please don't be that guy.
8/6/2008 8:21:59 PM
Have you read the shit I've been writing or did you just see multiple posts and assume I was saying "mine's the best?"This whole thing stemmed from someone challenging my assertion that the SV had midrange torque. I simply provided evidence to show that compared to the standard 600cc I4's, it does in fact have more midrange torque. I also said the 600RR is faster. Do you think he should start out on a 600RR? I simply recommended something that works and then people start talking about their 600RR, it seems to me that they're the ones claiming "mine's the best."I swear, it's like if I mention that the SV has any kind of power or torque, I'm going to get attacked by somebody saying "mine has more." Nobody said yours/theirs/whoever's didn't have more, did they? Nobody said the SV was the fastest thing around, did they? You must be a 19 year old to think that I actually can't comprehend that there are bikes that are literally twice as fast to 100mph as the SV. Please, don't be that guy. Either you're trolling or you can't read, g. Alright, that's good for now.Back to the original topic:That article I posted that I got the graphs from is a comparison of four different bikes, I really like all of the ones that were reviewed. I like the FZ the least though. The 599 and Triumph seem great and they got good reviews, although the 599 is rather expensive. The Triumph does seem like an awesome bike. It might be worth reading that article to get an idea of some other bikes besides the ones mentioned in the thread. [Edited on August 6, 2008 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ]
8/6/2008 8:31:08 PM
I've got 5 grand, sell me your bike... I had an '04 R6, sold it... miss it... want another or similar
8/6/2008 10:04:26 PM
8/7/2008 1:05:44 AM
man, there were bikes with potential all over the place about a week ago. now i can't seem to find anything. i'm not even really that picky about what it is, so long as i get it for a really good deal (i mean, i'll take a 600 supersport, an SV, a Buell...I don't care if it has scratches and stuff as long as it's reflected enough in the price).
8/7/2008 1:27:53 AM
8/7/2008 7:18:59 AM
8/7/2008 7:51:37 AM
So anyway, anybody got one for around 3k?
8/7/2008 9:21:33 AM
Check PMs. I sent you the same PM I sent TheDuke866, I don't know if he got it but I think all of them are still on craigslist.
8/7/2008 9:29:55 AM
8/7/2008 11:26:01 AM
I just picked up an 04 CBR 600rr last night
8/7/2008 11:46:56 AM
for how much??
8/7/2008 11:49:03 AM
It has a rough appearance and a salvage title (guy bought it from a police auction).I went through the bike meticulously and everything seems to be just fine. Runs great, shifts smooth...I'm going to have to buy a whole new set of fairings (about $600) but I got the bike for $2700, so I dont mind spending a little money to make it look nice, haha.Oh, AND it's lowjacked. That's worth a good bit of money.[Edited on August 7, 2008 at 12:00 PM. Reason : .]
8/7/2008 11:57:54 AM
damn dude how many bikes go through police auction ?? I want a naked bike anyway... it doesn't take much to throw the fairings away and bolt on a headlight/gauge kit.
8/7/2008 1:32:11 PM
I dunno. It's got 18k miles too, but still, I didnt think it was a bad price for the bike.
8/7/2008 1:43:08 PM
8/7/2008 4:19:06 PM
my torque is bigger than yours.
8/7/2008 4:24:46 PM
please, every guy that gets a sportsbike does it for the coolness factor...
8/8/2008 4:31:09 AM
I hate how when you get a new bike you usually have to get a new jacket and helmet so that it all matches. ~
8/8/2008 7:43:19 AM
Yeah, I'm just buying all new plastic for the bike since I already have a brand new helmet and matching leather and mesh jackets.The plastics on my bike need to be replaced anyway, so I might as well buy some new ones that match my gear.
8/8/2008 8:01:57 AM
Im looking at replacing my plastics, i think im going to go with some ebay fairigns (since my current ones are beat to shit after the truck.But the bike is back up and running, the rear end looks like i got some kinda lift kit on it, but the subframe shoudl be in any day now.
8/8/2008 8:13:01 AM
8/8/2008 8:43:06 AM
NOT ARGUING WITH YOU, BTW - just clarifying
8/8/2008 9:07:38 AM
Well, I was talking to you after you mentioned the 600RR, but my original comments were to the OP. As far as the graphs, that was to TheDuke866 and anyone else that wanted to see it, just to provide a reference to the torque and hp numbers at low rpm's compared to some 600's. That is a great article btw, they seemed to like the Speed Four the most. I really like that Daytona 675 I-3 btw. That shit sounds awesome.Igor is a cool dude and his bike was fun to ride even though it was pretty beat up looking, lol.[Edited on August 8, 2008 at 9:16 AM. Reason : ]
8/8/2008 9:14:48 AM
nigger plz
8/13/2008 10:27:17 AM