http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080408/ap_on_el_pr/obama_delegate_resigns;_ylt=AmuE9Ldoxj7xkC5eQ58VZTms0NUE

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" CARPENTERSVILLE, Ill. - An Illinois delegate for Democratic Sen. Barack Obama resigned after using the word "monkeys" to describe black children playing in a tree, the Obama campaign said Tuesday. ADVERTISEMENT Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski, a trustee in the Chicago suburb of Carpentersville, was issued a $75 ticket for disorderly conduct after neighbors complained to police. She says the word wasn't meant racially and she will fight the ticket. "Given the incident, Linda Ramirez-Sliwinski is stepping down as a delegate and will be replaced," said Obama spokeswoman Amy Brundage. The incident occurred Saturday, when two children were playing in a tree next door to Ramirez-Sliwinski's house. She said the parents were outside supervising the children, but she went over and told them to get out of the tree because she was concerned about the boys' safety and because the small magnolia tree was being damaged. The father of one of the boys told her it was none of her business, she told the Chicago Tribune, and "I calmly said the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like monkeys." The mother of one boy called police. Cmdr. Michael Kilbourne said Tuesday a ticket was issued because the ordinance bans conduct that disturbs or alarms people. One of the boys told police he was scared by her comment and a mother said she was disturbed, he said. Ramirez-Sliwinski does not have a listed telephone number. She did not respond immediately to an e-mail. Ramirez-Sliwinski says she doesn't plan to run for another term on the village board. "In the eyes of the public, this is wrong," she told the Arlington Heights Daily Herald."

so you cant say a simile without being racist now? a monkey climbs in trees, these kids were climbing in a tree....how is that not ok to say....i can see it being questionable in certain situations, but i doubt that was the motivation in this case

4/9/2008 2:48:05 AM

guh, I'm sick of this PC crap. My mom would tell me to stop acting like a monkey all the time but I guess that's okay because we're white.

As an aside, my Japanese coworker is always calling himself a monkey lol.

4/9/2008 2:54:27 AM

a black woman with whom I work read this story and laughed because she used to call her sons monkeys all of the time.

4/9/2008 2:58:57 AM

monkey for niggers is so antiquated now anyway

its like moolies and coloreds...no one really says it anymore so it loses some of its impact

4/9/2008 2:59:04 AM

that is fucking pathetic

shit like this pisses me off.

4/9/2008 3:02:15 AM

maybe if she had called them coons

4/9/2008 3:05:39 AM

Whether or not this was a racist comment aside, WTF is up here?

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"Cmdr. Michael Kilbourne said Tuesday a ticket was issued because the ordinance bans conduct that disturbs or alarms people."

Couldn't such an ordinance cover just about anything?

4/9/2008 5:13:19 AM

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"She said the parents were outside supervising the children, but she went over and told them to get out of the tree because she was concerned about the boys' safety and because the small magnolia tree was being damaged."

Not on your property, not your chidren, go on about your business and keep your mouth shut.

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"racism, or a bad choice of words?"

Neither, monkeys swing from trees and we're both primates, I'd say it was a pretty accurate description. She still should've kept her mouth shut.

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"Cmdr. Michael Kilbourne said Tuesday a ticket was issued because the ordinance bans conduct that disturbs or alarms people."

Yeah, what hooksaw said.

4/9/2008 8:12:21 AM

Yeah, that was a simple simile.

4/9/2008 8:23:13 AM

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"racism, or a bad choice of words?"

neither. "climbing in there like monkeys" is just a 'mom' phrase. the people that filed the complain are idiots.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 8:48 AM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 8:45:36 AM

^^^

/thread

4/9/2008 8:50:37 AM

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"racism, or a bad choice of words?"

neither. "climbing in there like monkeys" is just a 'mom' phrase. the people that filed the complain are idiots.

4/9/2008 8:56:25 AM

neither, it's over sensitivity

damn ground monkeys

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"alarms people."

like yelling fire in a movie theater when there is actually a fire?

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 9:01 AM. Reason : p]

4/9/2008 9:00:49 AM

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""I calmly said the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like porch monkeys.""

4/9/2008 9:02:16 AM

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"Cmdr. Michael Kilbourne said Tuesday a ticket was issued because the ordinance bans conduct that disturbs or alarms people."

if this law is that fucked up the lady should have called the police on the parents before she even said anything to them...

4/9/2008 9:40:18 AM

Neither.


And I am with Hoooksaw, it's alarming that someone can be issued some sort of ticket for this. I am certain it will be dropped, and I feel the issuing officer should be suspended.


I mean, if people can initiate police intervention every time someone says something that somehow subjectively hurts their oversensitive sense of ego, then someone needs to go ahead and pull the flush handle on the the toilet bowl this country is becoming. It's time to start again from scratch.

4/9/2008 9:53:04 AM

I agree. Let's send all the monkeys back to the tree and start from scratch

4/9/2008 9:54:45 AM

this is stupid.

4/9/2008 9:55:42 AM

"I calmly said the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like niggers."

4/9/2008 9:56:25 AM

it is indeed alarming that this can get you ticketed

4/9/2008 9:56:26 AM

^
agreed


and

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"that is fucking pathetic shit like this pisses me off."

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 10:01 AM. Reason : ]

4/9/2008 9:58:01 AM

Wow.


Truly ridiculous.

The true racists are the ones who interpret the term that way, not she who said it.

4/9/2008 9:58:58 AM

^
exactly

(also, illegal-immigration supporters that blindly label opponents as racist, are racist)

4/9/2008 10:02:26 AM

I don't know about you guys, but I would be pissed off if someone called me a monkey!

4/9/2008 10:03:50 AM

you dirty monkey

4/9/2008 10:04:06 AM

Ramirez-Sliwinski?

that sounds like a slave-holders name!

4/9/2008 10:06:59 AM

yeah, i thought the same thing

4/9/2008 11:38:37 AM

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"PORCH MONKEY"

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 11:42 AM. Reason : monkey ain't racist!]

4/9/2008 11:42:21 AM

What. in. the. hell.


First amendment anyone?

4/9/2008 11:48:56 AM

This is damn retarded.

4/9/2008 12:12:43 PM

yeah, it is fucking stupid

but you've got to accept that this is the world we live in

if you're a delegate for Obama, common sense dictates that you can never, in any context, refer to black people as "monkeys"

I think it's fucking stupid, but that's just the nature of America these days

4/9/2008 12:22:04 PM

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"The mother of one boy called police."

What a bitch move.

4/9/2008 12:35:36 PM

Neither racist nor a bad choice of words. And those parents deserve a good old fashioned ass whoopin to get them in check.

4/9/2008 1:17:21 PM

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"Cmdr. Michael Kilbourne said Tuesday a ticket was issued because the ordinance bans conduct that disturbs or alarms people."

lol. wtf

4/9/2008 1:19:37 PM

I'm alarmed by this thread. I want him to ticket himself and those losers who called the cops in the first place. Throw DNL in there for good measure.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 1:23 PM. Reason : l]

4/9/2008 1:23:20 PM

Get used to it folks. This is the world we live in.

Like the other day. I told someone I was not going to vote for Obama. I did not give him a reason as to why. He immediately said "What, trying to keep a brotha down?"

NO, ffs, I don't like his lack of political experience. But thats beside the point.

What alarms me is how someone immediately thought race when I said I was not going to vote for Obama.

4/9/2008 1:27:53 PM

were they black?

4/9/2008 1:29:44 PM

nope

but does it matter who thinks like that? That kind of thought is going to get someone elected who is not ready to lead this country, but I'll save it for the soapbox.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 1:31 PM. Reason : dsf]

4/9/2008 1:30:41 PM

then wtf was the problem

4/9/2008 1:31:11 PM

this guy is pretty liberal

4/9/2008 1:31:51 PM

Are you sure he wasn't joking when he made that statement (which would be mildly racist by itself?)

4/9/2008 1:49:21 PM

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"One of the boys told police he was scared by her comment"

What a pussy

4/9/2008 2:14:59 PM

This is just another reason we don't need a black in the White House.

I really wish I lived close to this place so I could track this woman down and call her a stupid nigger to her face.

[Edited on April 9, 2008 at 2:23 PM. Reason : .]

4/9/2008 2:22:28 PM

^^ the kid wasn't scared. In a lot of cases with kids testimony, they're lead by their parents

Usually goes something like this.

Mom: "How dare you say such a thing! You're gonna scare my kids!"
"You ok son? She didn't scare you too much did she?"

Reporter: "Little boy were you scared by the comment?"
Kid: "umm.. ya"

Kid wasn't scared, but told by his mom he's supposed to be scared in this situation, so how does he respond? He was scared.

4/9/2008 3:39:41 PM

freud says there are no accidents.

4/9/2008 3:40:37 PM

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"Not on your property, not your chidren, go on about your business and keep your mouth shut."

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"Ramirez-Sliwinski says she doesn't plan to run for another term on the village board. "

It sounds like she was on some sort of community board, so she probably felt justified voicing her complaint about the tree being damaged.

4/9/2008 3:46:44 PM

Thats what she gets for poking her fucking opinion in to shit that was happening off her property.


If I seen some stupid kids climbing a tree I would just wait for one of them to fall and get hurt. Sometimes you gotta let kids learn the hard way not to do stupid shit.

4/9/2008 3:49:27 PM

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"I calmly said the tree is not there for them to be climbing in there like monkeysbut to be hanging in"

there now its racist

4/9/2008 3:50:15 PM

^exactly

4/9/2008 3:50:36 PM

set em up

4/9/2008 4:47:19 PM