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optmusprimer
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so what do you guys think? is it gonna suck? is it gonna rock? i havent heard anything yet.

3/15/2008 7:10:11 PM

Walls1441
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Kill 'em all.

Half of ride the lightning.

Next band.

3/15/2008 7:22:47 PM

Wraith
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Quote :
"is it gonna suck?"


What was the last album of theirs that didn't suck?

3/15/2008 7:39:31 PM

Walls1441
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Kill 'em all.

3/15/2008 7:44:32 PM

optmusprimer
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yes st. anger was crap, and all that WE ALL KNOW THE LATE STUFF HAS BEEN CRAP

however, the rumor is that the NEW stuff is quality....

3/15/2008 7:46:14 PM

statefan24
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it's rick rubin produced if i'm not mistaken, I shall have high expectations.

3/15/2008 7:48:40 PM

Shadowrunner
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"yes st. anger was crap, and all that WE ALL KNOW THE LATE STUFF HAS BEEN CRAP

however, the rumor is that the NEW stuff is quality....

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Yeah, but that was the rumor before St. Anger came out, too. All the music publications and critics were slobbing Metallica's collective knob, telling us how heavy the St. Anger album was and that it was a grand return to form. Then the album sucked balls.

My biggest concern is that James' vocals on St. Anger clearly showed that his voice is going; I literally winced listening to some of it, and if they can't even fix it in the studio with ProTools, I can't imagine it being any better a few years later. That alone is going to kill the album, even if there was somehow still some thrash left in them on the guitars.

3/15/2008 11:03:07 PM

CalledToArms
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they havent been anything close to quality in forever, its going to suck.

[Edited on March 15, 2008 at 11:17 PM. Reason : ]

3/15/2008 11:17:34 PM

AndyMac
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Kill 'em All sucked donkey balls compared to Master of Puppets.

3/15/2008 11:38:14 PM

Walls1441
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wow.


credibility lost.

[Edited on March 16, 2008 at 12:52 AM. Reason : don't get me wrong master of puppets was pretty solid.]

3/16/2008 12:51:32 AM

AndyMac
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oh shit.

I lost credibility with walls.



[Edited on March 16, 2008 at 1:08 AM. Reason : how could this happen to meeeeeeeeee]

3/16/2008 1:07:55 AM

Walls1441
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it happens to the best of us.


tww is serious business you know.

3/16/2008 1:14:48 AM

cyrion
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i think most consider master of puppets the best album anyways walls.

3/16/2008 10:23:05 AM

Walls1441
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well most people aren't metal heads.

3/16/2008 11:36:16 AM

9one9
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lol @ metallica

3/16/2008 12:11:12 PM

marko
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lars' dad made me lol in "some kind of monster"

3/16/2008 9:29:09 PM

cyrion
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fine walls. i like metal a lot (certain kinds) and i think master of puppets is the best.

3/16/2008 9:37:15 PM

jbtilley
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Quote :
"yes st. anger was crap, and all that WE ALL KNOW THE LATE STUFF HAS BEEN CRAP

however, the rumor is that the NEW stuff is quality....

"


Rule #1 for all metal bands. If the marketing and hype machine sounds anything like "this is out heaviest albums since <last album we put out that was universally liked>" then you know it is going to suck.

Have you heard the "new song" and "other new song" on youtube?
http://youtube.com/watch?v=2pS5rODQ2ao
http://youtube.com/watch?v=GNMzWCOEFfU

I think the band later came back and said that they weren't the actual songs but ideas that would be going into some of the new songs. One could only hope, but in the very least it indicates what direction they've taken.

3/17/2008 6:52:19 AM

Dentaldamn
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i cant see how this could be good.

3/17/2008 7:11:20 AM

scotieb24
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The first four albums are the best and yes St. sucked. For the new album, they have a new producer, lars is changing his snare back, and Kirk is going to play solos again. Not saying that this means it will be good but at least they are trying to go a different direction than St. Anger. I too, worry about Het's voice.

3/17/2008 7:31:29 AM

xplosivo
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I don't dislike that first song, but the vocal sounds like shit. the second song is just "OK".

3/17/2008 8:29:34 AM

benz240
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read the caption on that first one - it's not hetfield

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"Someone covered this song with his own band and recorded this song in studio. "

3/17/2008 8:37:29 AM

xplosivo
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thank god. that vocal is terrible.

3/17/2008 10:09:21 AM

jman912
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part of it's blind optimism based on the hundreds of hours spent listening to Kill Em All, Ride the Lightning, Master of Puppets, And Justice For All, and Garage Inc

a lot of it's Rick Rubin being infinitely better than Bob Rock(IMHO the worst thing to happen to Metallica)

but I'm giving this a chance

3/17/2008 11:04:58 AM

DaveOT
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"Have you heard the "new song" and "other new song" on youtube? "


if those are actually representative, then I just loss any interest I had

3/17/2008 11:41:42 AM

Walls1441
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^ truth.

3/17/2008 12:47:04 PM

scotieb24
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They have said that those would not be on the album but that some of the parts/riffs may make it into some songs. I did like the double bass and the fact that there were solos but I'm not going get too excited until I hear something official.

3/17/2008 1:13:40 PM

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@Walls: I realize that taking Metallica-bashing to extremes is de rigueur right now, but that doesn't change the fact that Master of Puppets is still considered one of the best, if not the best, thrash metal album ever made. And that's among metalheads as well as the rest of the music industry.

3/17/2008 4:36:22 PM

Walls1441
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Metallica is one of the bands that got me into metal. I'm not trying to bash them, i'm just saying that i don't think they've been capable of writing songs that can stand up to The Four Horsemen or Call of kluthu. Megadeth is the same way only with 20 ex-bandmembers and a few religions down the line. Don't get me wrong, battery is one of my favorite metallica songs.




my friends remind me that i'm way too unfairly cynical with music.

[Edited on March 17, 2008 at 4:47 PM. Reason : f]

3/17/2008 4:47:22 PM

ElGimpy
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kluthu?

3/17/2008 5:47:54 PM

CalledToArms
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lol his voice sounds just as bad when its actually him (in the 2nd video) as the band covering the other song.

3/17/2008 5:52:03 PM

Walls1441
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Kluthu. do you speak it?

3/17/2008 6:36:44 PM

jbtilley
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Quote :
"They have said that those would not be on the album but that some of the parts/riffs may make it into some songs. I did like the double bass and the fact that there were solos but I'm not going get too excited until I hear something official."


Yeah, when they said that this is what I actually heard was:

"So you all think it sucks.... uh, those weren't the real songs, just riffs we were thinking of. Yeah, that's the ticket."

Oh, and the double bass comment reminded me of the St. Anger bonus track...

http://badstanger.ytmnd.com/

3/17/2008 6:47:16 PM

craptastic
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ktulu

[Edited on March 17, 2008 at 8:51 PM. Reason : -]

3/17/2008 8:48:16 PM

TheBrewery
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I think Lars and the "psychic" John Edward are brothers.

3/18/2008 12:34:03 AM

scotieb24
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^^^ Haha I had never heard that before.

3/18/2008 6:52:29 AM

WillemJoel
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will not listen

will not download

will not buy

3/18/2008 7:40:11 AM

scotieb24
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man you are cool

3/19/2008 9:37:27 AM

optmusprimer
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OK the word from lars is they are 95% finished with the album (if not 100% now) and will be doing a full blown tour in the fall (USA)

the band is back and forth now in europe.

5/20/2008 8:18:22 PM

wolfpack0122
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http://www.missionmetallica.com

^ posters have been seen stating the album will be out in Sept

[Edited on May 20, 2008 at 11:41 PM. Reason : .]

5/20/2008 11:41:28 PM

wolfpack0122
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8FkPrwXrNw

5/30/2008 7:17:56 PM

scotieb24
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^^ Well those definitely sound better than the first two songs they played last year

hopes:+1

Cool, I just realized I get a free platinum membership because I am in the fan club. Going to check it out now.

[Edited on June 2, 2008 at 10:46 AM. Reason : .]

6/2/2008 10:32:46 AM

jprince11
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come on guys, this thread shouldn't even be made, I mean I love metallica's early stuff as much as anyone, but just give it up already

6/2/2008 1:56:35 PM

ElGimpy
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How about the haters just go make the thread, "We love Kill 'Em All, Lightning, and Puppets, we like Justice, then they sold out and will never make anything good again and we like fellating ourselves" and stay out of the new threads, because the argument never changes, no matter what they put out.

6/2/2008 2:18:30 PM

9one9
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hey metallica

fuck off

6/2/2008 5:08:58 PM

scotieb24
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According to missionmetallica.com the new album is going to be named Death Magnetic. The preview sounds pretty good.

6/15/2008 11:25:26 PM

marko
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did they play any new material at bonnaroo?

6/16/2008 9:24:30 AM

Mulva
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Quote :
"and if they can't even fix it in the studio with ProTools,"


And here we have the reason why most mainstream music sucks ass.

6/16/2008 9:37:41 AM

statefan24
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^^nope

6/16/2008 10:23:40 AM

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