I searched for Salvia but didnt see any topics...sorry if this is [old]

www.sagewisdom.org


Shit's crazy, and apparantly still legal in NC...lasts about an hour. They even have a scale to go by

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" Level -1 "S stands for SUBTLE effects."...Relaxation and increased sensual appreciation may be noted... Level - 2 "A stands for ALTERED perception." ...But visions do not occur at this level. Thinking becomes less logical, and more playful; short term memory difficulties are may be noted. Level - 3 "L" stands for LIGHT visionary state." ...At this level phenomena similar to the hypnagogic phenomena that some people experience at sleep onset occur. At this level visions are experienced as "eye candy" but are not confused with reality. Level - 4 "V stands for VIVID visionary state." ...With eyes open contact with consensual reality will not be entirely lost, but when you close your eyes you may forget about consensus reality and enter completely into a dreamlike scene...encounters with beings, entities, spirits; or travels to other ages may occur... Level - 5 "I" stands for IMMATERIAL existence." At this level consciousness remains and some thought processes are still lucid, but one becomes completely involved in inner experience and loses all contact with consensual reality...At this level it is impossible to function in consensual reality...For this reason a sitter is essential to ensure the safety of someone voyaging to the inner levels. To the person experiencing this, the phenomenon may be terrifying or exceedingly pleasant; but to an outside observer the individual may appear confused or disoriented. Level 6 - "A stands for AMNESIC effects " At this stage either consciousness is lost; or at least one is unable to later recall what one is experiencing...People cannot ever recall what they experience in this very deep trance state. This is not a sought after level as later nothing can be recalled of the experience. "

Summary:

Related to the mint plant
You see stuff
doesn't feel like alcohol or pot
Lasts about an hour
Apparantly still legal in NC

Scale:

1. Enjoy the show
2. Begin Trip
3. Waking Dreams
4. Trip
5. Chaperone Required
6. Blackout






[Edited on March 11, 2008 at 8:21 PM. Reason : still reading]

3/11/2008 8:20:32 PM

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iL07qPrDwTnT98gXva3EWcl0sxXAD8VBHBHG0

3/11/2008 8:21:51 PM

it doesn't last an hour

so I hear

3/11/2008 8:24:08 PM

wow. florida is pushing to make it a felony with a 5 year sentence???? aren't the lawmakers now the people who grew up in the hippy era?

plus, that stuff is hardly a drug. might as well just do whipits and have a chance at catching a decent trip without risking jail

3/11/2008 8:24:51 PM

active ingredient is something called Salvinorin A I Think

http://jpet.aspetjournals.org/cgi/content/full/308/3/1197

3/11/2008 8:28:29 PM

^^florida is the pinnacle of legal retardation

3/11/2008 8:33:22 PM

Salvia is really easy to obtain, but the effects really only last about 15 minutes or less.

It's still legal because it hasn't yet been identified with a social group the men in suits want to oppress. I give it five years before it's fully scheduled.

[Edited on March 11, 2008 at 8:38 PM. Reason : Salvia divinorum]

3/11/2008 8:36:14 PM

Level V survivor here.

Be careful kids.

This is not a party drug.

Quote :

"plus, at low doses that stuff is hardly a drug. might as well just do whipits and have a chance at catching a decent trip without risking jail"

fixed it for leg...

[Edited on March 11, 2008 at 8:42 PM. Reason : ^ lol hi... ]

[Edited on March 11, 2008 at 8:44 PM. Reason : ...]

3/11/2008 8:41:57 PM

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"Salvia's short-lasting effects and the fact that it is currently legal may make it seem more appealing to teens, lawmakers say. In the Delaware suicide, the boy's mother told reporters that salvia made his mood darker but he justified its use by citing its legality. According to reports, the autopsy found no traces of the drug in his system, but the medical examiner listed it as a contributing cause."

From that first link.

3/11/2008 8:44:09 PM

your link sucks, need http://

http://www.sagewisdom.org

[Edited on March 11, 2008 at 8:45 PM. Reason : ]

3/11/2008 8:44:46 PM

[and]?

seems more appropriate.

3/11/2008 9:03:24 PM

while no expert, i do think i have a fair bit of experience with saliva

definitely doesnt last an hour

ive experienced levels 1-5 (using your assigned scale)

level 5 is definitely like whoa.....whoa

i could make an argument for its legality in either direction, but i personally enjoy it every few months and really dont think its all that bad, sure you can get fucked up while on it (notice i didnt say you get fucked up from it directly) but then again you can get pretty messed up on CO2 also

last time i was in raleigh i bought some 20x from kitsch (sp?)...definitely not cheap, about $50-70/gram, but then again a gram should last a real long ass time

holla if you got any questions or trip experience inquiries

3/11/2008 9:17:47 PM

btw

while not a party drug

the place it takes you is crazy interesting

3/14/2008 10:31:40 PM

I've heard the case made:

"You know why this stuff is still legal? Because it SUCKS! They don't have to make it illegal, because no one wants to do it anyway!"

I've tried the stuff, and believe there's a measure of truth to this

3/14/2008 10:37:20 PM

I mean, why can't you kids just get some old fashioned mushrooms if youre looking for a trip?

this sounds just plain dumb.

i wouldnt ever tell some girl you just meet and are interested in that youve done shit like this

3/14/2008 10:39:47 PM

I tried I

It was Interesting

3/14/2008 11:16:17 PM

Mushroom and Salvia are completely different trips. Mushroom is longer lasting, Salvia is definitely more intense and shorter.

Mushrooms modifies what you see. I've held a twizzler between my hands while tripping on shrooms, and I saw blood flowing through it as an artery as my heart beat from one finger to another.

Salvia makes you see shit that isn't there based on what you feel. I've drifted out of my body down to the bottom of a murky lake and seen myself floating at the top of it and spent at least a minute trying to swim back up into my own body. The whole time I was actually leaning on a couch sweating profusely.

3/14/2008 11:21:43 PM

the weirdest trip i've ever had was when i got lost in my room with the lights off and was visualizing myself in different places. a few times the floor was invisible and i was standing up in the air in the middle of a forest with nothing below my feet. I wasn't imagining myself floating around; I was seeing myself literally walk on thin air which is actually pretty scary. at one point i visualized being on the curb in front of daniels hall and sitting down and wondering why i wasn't at home. It was crazy in how I didn't just visualize this stuff in my mind. It seemed like all these visions were occuring in real time and if I turned in different directions I would see different things. I never ending up finding the lights until morning came and the sun started peeking through my windows. It was insanity to the highest degree possible.

[Edited on March 14, 2008 at 11:40 PM. Reason : .]

3/14/2008 11:36:51 PM

salvia is not a recreational drug

it is simply a tool for shattering perception

3/15/2008 12:39:57 AM

Salvia you 'trip' for like 8-10 minutes. then you just feel shitty for the rest of that 'hour'

3/15/2008 1:06:56 AM