3/2/2008 12:19:17 PM
good
3/2/2008 12:21:05 PM
3/2/2008 12:21:34 PM
The charitable foundation that is being funded:
3/2/2008 12:24:39 PM
mis-use of deadly force = pwnt
3/2/2008 12:25:24 PM
hah I love Seinfeld
3/2/2008 12:27:21 PM
3/2/2008 12:45:15 PM
The guy still committed a crime. Too bad he died, but next time don't steal.
3/2/2008 12:53:34 PM
3/2/2008 12:55:00 PM
3/2/2008 12:56:36 PM
That is great logic.So what if you knew him, had no idea he robbed somebody, and stopped by for a minute and happened to be the one that stood up to answer the door. I guess everyone on TWW would be like "The guy still was hanging out with someone that committed a crime. Too bad he died, but next time don't be at the wrong house."]
3/2/2008 12:58:13 PM
We said "Too bad he died" but obviously if the kid had not stolen the PS3 he would not have had the cops raid his apt and kill him.
3/2/2008 1:01:26 PM
3/2/2008 1:02:56 PM
What's your point? It's not like we advocated shooting him.
3/2/2008 1:10:23 PM
I AGREE WITH JACKLEG
3/2/2008 1:10:26 PM
I DONTHE WAS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED...HE PROBABLY DIDNT DESERVE TO DIE, BUT HE SET THE BALL IN MOTION COMMITTING A FELONY I DONT STEAL SHIT, I DONT EXPECT THE COPS AT MY FUCKING DOOR WITH THEIR GUNS DRAWN
3/2/2008 1:12:14 PM
but it could easily happen, as proven by this.
3/2/2008 1:13:47 PM
oh im sorry, i didn't know you were a direct witness to the alleged crime and you saw the guy who is too dead to defend himself committing a felony.i'm sorry dude, how stupid of me to not consider that you were there. i just assumed you heard it on the news and jumped on the stupid ass redneck bandwagonHE'S ON TEE-VEE. HE DID IT!!1
3/2/2008 1:15:21 PM
3/2/2008 1:16:50 PM
hi, thats not the argument i was making. perhaps you should re-read what i posted before you engage me on something i've not talked about
3/2/2008 1:18:52 PM
lookits a sad thing...no one should die over a fucking playstationand youre right, he didnt have his day in courtsince you are taking on this cause jackleg, what do you propose is the best way to handle this kind of stuff?how do you eliminate human error?
[Edited on March 2, 2008 at 1:21 PM. Reason : your != youre
3/2/2008 1:19:43 PM
but i will go ahead and answer, just because you asked my opinion i think that if you're inexperienced to the point where a battering tool hitting a door doesnt sound like just that, then you shouldnt be at the front of the action with a gun drawn.
3/2/2008 1:20:55 PM
3/2/2008 1:22:52 PM
i was talking about how you would prevent the kid getting shot by the cop but ok
3/2/2008 1:24:28 PM
i know, you were changing the subject from the one i originally commented about. I KNOW!!!
3/2/2008 1:25:00 PM
i never came in here and gave an opinion on how to handle what happened. but since everyone wants to know, i will say it more clearly this time since i've said it onceif you have an inexperienced or gun happy officer, they should not be at the front of "the shit" when it goes down. anyone on a swat team who has been on multiple runs will know the unmistakable difference between a ram hitting a door and a gun firing. if they dont have the experience, or if they have prior discharged weapon incidents, they should not be at the front, in any position to have a shot at an alleged criminal.thats off the top of my head since people were asking. but i dont want to get baited away from the original point i came to make. that he wasnt guilty. and never will be.
3/2/2008 1:28:00 PM
nah i originally was on a different subject than you wereMY BAD YO
3/2/2008 1:28:06 PM
3/2/2008 1:28:11 PM
no you should shoot them when you hear a loud noice, duh
3/2/2008 1:28:46 PM
Okay, he probably committed a crime.
3/2/2008 1:30:48 PM
3/2/2008 1:31:44 PM
I'm just a pessimist.
3/2/2008 1:33:25 PM
3/2/2008 1:34:01 PM
3/2/2008 1:34:06 PM
3/2/2008 1:34:40 PM
3/2/2008 1:36:04 PM
I don't see how a dumb kid who takes a PS3 should be considered armed and dangerous, but I could see how the cop would have a knee jerk reaction to the battering ram noise, and easily mistaking it for a gun shot.It's an isolated incident.
3/2/2008 1:36:59 PM
^perhaps you've forgotten about the pictures with weapons.and the conspiracy theory that it wasn't really him
3/2/2008 1:38:03 PM
3/2/2008 1:38:07 PM
3/2/2008 1:38:34 PM
as easy as it is to call it an 'isolated incident', given the background on the Officer it's just as easy to say 'he should have never been there in the first place'.There should NEVER be a knee jerk reaction when a person's life in in question.[Edited on March 2, 2008 at 1:39 PM. Reason : eh, just read jackleg's post. REITERATION!!1 .]
3/2/2008 1:39:11 PM
3/2/2008 1:39:52 PM
yeah it would have been hard for him to have threatened the cop through a closed door the bullets that hit him went THROUGH the door so obviously the cop had no idea a) that a gun was inside b) that the person behind the door was a suspect c) if innocent parties were present d) that the sound he heard was shotsIf you guys want to keep defending the cop go ahead. I was under the impression that the good guys don't usually go around shooting indiscriminately in to occupied homes. This is not even a situation where the officer mistook something in the guys hand for a weapon, the officer in question had not even laid eyes on the target before he began firing. The bullets went through the closed door and killed the suspect. If you want to defend that action have fun with it, I just always assumed it was a basic rule to have a target in your sight before you shoot first in to a residence.
3/2/2008 1:41:22 PM
3/2/2008 1:43:20 PM
JACKLEGATTORNEY AT LAWLET HIM FIGHT FOR YOU
3/2/2008 1:43:46 PM
3/2/2008 1:44:01 PM
Yeah, it can.At the very least some trigger happy fucker can be in a position where he doesn't have the authority to go shooting people
3/2/2008 1:44:42 PM
3/2/2008 1:45:12 PM
3/2/2008 1:48:01 PM
isn't that what a lawyer does, distinguish fact from fiction (supposedly)thus my statement is correct[Edited on March 2, 2008 at 1:49 PM. Reason : sp]
3/2/2008 1:49:19 PM