1991 MR2 Turbo

Quote :

" Engine Mods- Greddy T67 Kit (Turbo was rebuilt and has less then 200 miles on it) Greddy Pex Exhaust Trd Metal Head Gasket JE Pistons 8:5:1 compression Bored Supra 550 injectors Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator Apex Intake Apex super afc Turbo xs manual boost controller HKS ssqv "

Quote :

" Interior Mods- AutoMeter Boost Gauge Autometer EGT Gauge Trd Carbon Fiber Shift Knob Sparco Mounts and Sliders Sparco Sprint Seats(black) Authentic Carbon Fiber kit(not installed but comes with car) Momo Race Steering wheel Sparco Hub Audio/Electronics Mods- 6 disc changer Alpine Flip out Head Unit Dvd Player Compustar Alarm w/built in turbo timer Eclipse Sub in a box Amp JBL Speakers Ipod Lighter Adapter player jawn Exterior Mods Full Border Body Kit Carbon Creations CF Hood(comes with hood pins but not installed) 94 tail light conversion Brand New Pegasus Hids Clear turn signals 18' Knock off tenzos painted black wrapped in kumhos Shaved spoiler Shaved Antena Wingless(done right) Custom Paint(first time this color has been done) "

And the bad?

Quote :

" Things the car NEEDS- Interior rewired and fixed(DOES NOT affect performance of the car. Compustar and audio system are the only victims of this problem) Harness's for seats A few Interior parts Piston Rings for cylinder 1 2 550 cc supra injectors Fuel Cut defender Things wrong with the car- The body shop messed up the wiring for the inside of the car when taking it apart and putting in back together. I was quoted $1,000 to rewire the inside of the car to have everything working properly again. The only things that dont work are the speakers, dvd switch, and alarm system. While getting some new upgrades installed so the car could be ready to be sold some information was found out. 2 injectors are pouring out gas, making the car run very rich. Compression test was done, 75,175,175,175. I was told that piston 1 is in need of new rings. On Top of that the fuel cut defender is no longer working. "

For all this, the car is $6000. It's gorgeous, it has the power, but it seems like it just needs a little TLC.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 4:47 PM. Reason : ]

2/20/2008 4:47:18 PM

dont buy it

2/20/2008 4:49:27 PM

hey remember my "would you buy a modified car" thread? This might be somebody's halfassed/half finished project car that they got tired of or couldn't afford to finish. what really concerns me is the claimed electrical problems. often the main source of electrical gremlins is installer error... you have no idea what kind of ghetto shit you will find when you start pulling things apart. And if he halfassed that, who knows what else is ghetto? You just don't want to spend a bunch of money and time fixing his mistakes.

the parts themselves look good on paper though, except engine management. Is an SAFC enough for a reliable tune on those cars? cheap engine management + a bad piston ring just doesn't sound good to me.

oh and I have two 550 cc injectors if you want them (they are off my Rx-7, top feed, high impedence). just need o-rings and pintle caps.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 5:02 PM. Reason : .]

2/20/2008 5:00:03 PM

BOOM

2/20/2008 5:01:05 PM

i wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft. pole, at least not for $6k. that's a lot to spend on a car that needs an engine rebuild and has major electrical issues.

^^yeah, the safc is more or less just a band aid. it's an excellent budget option for a mild car and can even safely be used on wilder setups but it's far from optimal once you get to a certain point.

2/20/2008 5:07:46 PM

Dude.
Just buy it.
You'll only make a mistake like that once in your life and then you'll never have to post these terrible threads again.

Remember when Smoothcrim bought that sweet modified Eclipse that proceeded to fall apart and sit in pieces for a few years? You're due.

2/20/2008 5:09:10 PM

^^ nigro answer my PM about my clutch

2/20/2008 5:14:35 PM

i would for $1.5k, not $6k

2/20/2008 5:34:39 PM

Quote :

"i wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft. pole, at least not for $6k. that's a lot to spend on a car that needs an engine rebuild and has major electrical issues. "

yep

i wouldn't even consider it

i don't even understand why you think it's even arguably anything resembling a good deal, God.

2/20/2008 5:37:06 PM

Quote :

"Piston Rings for cylinder 1"

= Needs engine.......walk away

2/20/2008 5:54:00 PM

2/20/2008 6:26:06 PM

history doomed to repeat itself...

Quote :

"aomn (6:19:05 PM): remember when you bought that sweet modified eclipse that proceeded to fall apart and sit in pieces for a few years? packpower21 (6:19:42 PM): thats not exactly how it went down, but yes aomn (6:20:01 PM): lol aomn (6:20:05 PM): http://thewolfweb.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=515427 packpower21 (6:20:45 PM): flag 1 full T4 turbo on a 2L motor packpower21 (6:20:51 PM): flag 2 rebuilt packpower21 (6:21:04 PM): flag 3 550 injectors for a turbo that big aomn (6:21:11 PM): packpower21 (6:21:15 PM): flag 4 no spark control aomn (6:21:19 PM): what's that aomn (6:21:23 PM): LOOK IS IT DRIVABEL aomn (6:21:29 PM): I have to drive it from new jersey aomn (6:21:30 PM): heh packpower21 (6:21:46 PM): yeah you have no control of ignition timing packpower21 (6:21:56 PM): I learned a LOT about cars taking apart my dsm aomn (6:21:59 PM): how much in parts packpower21 (6:21:59 PM): and rebuilding it packpower21 (6:22:01 PM): and selling it aomn (6:22:02 PM): $1000? packpower21 (6:22:15 PM): to control ignition timing properly? packpower21 (6:22:23 PM): and get rid of that silly safc? packpower21 (6:22:35 PM): you could use an emanage which is like $300 packpower21 (6:22:48 PM): or get a full stand alone for ~$700-1400 aomn (6:22:52 PM): like a megasquirt or am I totally off base packpower21 (6:23:01 PM): like a megasquirt, but something better aomn (6:23:10 PM): I should talk to jdchmiel also packpower21 (6:23:12 PM): like apexi's unit packpower21 (6:23:29 PM): or a haltec packpower21 (6:23:34 PM): or a motec aomn (6:23:45 PM): I'm wondering how I could get it back to NC aomn (6:23:56 PM): because if I can sell my audi I can pretty much recoup whatever I'd put into it aomn (6:24:09 PM): I can't imagine any more than $2000 to get it working perfectly packpower21 (6:24:12 PM): Piston Rings for cylinder 1 2 550 cc supra injectors Fuel Cut defender aomn (6:24:17 PM): yep packpower21 (6:24:17 PM): umm packpower21 (6:24:25 PM): that requires a new motor dude aomn (6:24:35 PM): why? packpower21 (6:24:47 PM): ok, a lack of compression means a cyclinder not making power packpower21 (6:24:59 PM): a single ring rarely just "wears" out packpower21 (6:25:06 PM): so it was probably running lean in that cyl aomn (6:25:07 PM): hm packpower21 (6:25:09 PM): and burnt up the ring aomn (6:25:16 PM): you can't just replace the ring? packpower21 (6:25:21 PM): meaning you need to overbore the block packpower21 (6:25:25 PM): hone it packpower21 (6:25:35 PM): and possibly use larger pistons packpower21 (6:25:39 PM): depending on damage to the block packpower21 (6:25:47 PM): its sketch as fuck aomn (6:25:52 PM): damn it packpower21 (6:25:54 PM): and that paint is horrendous aomn (6:26:01 PM): i like it"

+1 on the don't touch it list

2/20/2008 6:34:30 PM

How does the guy know it needs rings?

I mean, it could just have a bent valve. At best you're pulling the head and replacing a valve. Could require machine work or a new head if it's cracked. If that's not it then it could just take rings or more depending on whether or not the cylinder walls are scored.

But that's a $2k car until it gets fixed IMO.

2/20/2008 6:58:24 PM

skack brings up a good point. did he do a leak down test to verify rings? head can be more expensive than block work depending on the motor and part availability

2/20/2008 7:01:05 PM

Quote :

" aomn: lol why did you post that packpower21: to catalog me telling you not to do it packpower21: so if you do it packpower21: I can say I TOLD YOU EXACTLY WHAT WAS WRONG "

This one looks a lot better anyway:

http://www.mr2trader.com/index.php?a=2&b=2121

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 7:03 PM. Reason : ]

2/20/2008 7:02:13 PM

T67 + 550cc = fail

2/20/2008 7:29:21 PM

a totally ghetto color too.

2/20/2008 7:30:02 PM

dude even if that car was done right, its not the right car for you.

you cant handle 300hp. not anytime soon either.

honestly, you just need a civic. my GF has a 2000 civic EX 5spd for sale.

2/20/2008 9:05:08 PM

dont get it bro...has a small back seat area

2/20/2008 9:09:59 PM

even in a BEST case scenario where you could just go ghetto and slap some rings on that one piston, you're still tearing the motor down to do it. there's a very slight chance it's something in the valvetrain that could be fixed fairly easy/cheap like a screwed spring or something, but that's one hell of a chance without some legit verification/documentation.

that yellow one looks like a much better option.

2/20/2008 9:11:51 PM

^^^

hey

my dick

suck it

I'm not looking for a monster, but then again I wouldn't mind something fun to drive. I might even take it out to the track on those "discount" days .

2/20/2008 9:17:14 PM

300hp mid engine car


you will kill yourself with your driving record on here.

2/20/2008 9:45:28 PM

its only 6 grand, a new car depreciates that in a year and nobody seems to mind.

if it is what you want, go for it.

its just money.

2/20/2008 10:21:33 PM

Looks like something a chick would drive.

2/20/2008 10:22:39 PM

looks like a headache with that list of issues

its your money, but I wouldn't touch it

keep looking

2/20/2008 10:36:51 PM

Quote :

"300hp mid engine car you will kill yourself with your driving record on here."

Ok, I'll bite.

Two speeding tickets.

One reckless driving ticket.

Zero points on my license.

I know some of you on here have more than that.

One minor accident. Yes, as much as everyone brings it up to troll me, it was minor. One car involved, a bent rear fender, a bent rear axle, and a bent rim. No more than a $2000 in total damages.

So, give it a rest.

2/20/2008 10:39:46 PM

im not trying to make fun of you. im just saying from what i have read on here with your problems with mr2s, i would say not to get it. its much much much more power than anything youve driven and its in a real sloppy car.

and im sure only a slim percentage of people on here could actually make that car do what they want.

2/20/2008 10:42:40 PM

Yeah, I know. After looking over the problems and what they would cost, I'm not considering it.

If you really want to talk me out of something, though:

http://www.mr2trader.com/index.php?a=2&b=2121

2/20/2008 10:47:16 PM

Why don't you buy a good car instead?

2/20/2008 10:48:30 PM

Because I don't see what's so bad about it?

2/20/2008 10:51:26 PM

what about an audi TT- awd and turbo.

2001 is in your pricerange

2/20/2008 10:57:29 PM

Well, it's almost 20 years old, it's had extensive modifications, it has a fucked up electrical system, it's almost 20 years old, needs engine work, he didn't list the mileage but I'm guessing it's over 100k, it's been repainted so there's a serious possibility that body work was done that he didn't mention, it's almost 20 years old....and he's asking 6k for it.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 11:16 PM. Reason : afd]

2/20/2008 11:14:52 PM

have you considered that MR2s, while neat cars, are a terrible bang for the buck?

you can get a really nice turbo Miata from the early to mid 90s for much less than $10k...parts are plentiful as shit, and you will be at least a little less likely to back it into a ditch.

for that matter, as much as i like crazy tuner sports cars, i wouldn't spend $10k on a '93 MR2 unless it had a blowjob socket or a hundred dollar bill printer. I'd much rather spend just a little more and get a clean AP1 S2000.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 11:32 PM. Reason : asdf]

2/20/2008 11:24:34 PM

god, seriously man are you 12? all you want is kid stuff.

[Edited on February 20, 2008 at 11:27 PM. Reason : d]

2/20/2008 11:27:04 PM

haha, no i'm 28


and a half.

2/20/2008 11:32:45 PM

some people will live and learn.

others will just keep trying and spending $$.


that said,

matt, its your money and you can get whatever you want. but just take everything said in this thread as advice.

if you want the car, get it, but do not come on here bitching and complaining when something goes wrong and you want to take the guy to court.












































































































































































































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none of us on here will be happy.

2/20/2008 11:36:36 PM

http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=231989985&dealer_id=57804117&car_year=2002&num_records=25&model=S2000&systime=&make2=&start_year=1981&engine=&keywordsrep=&keywordsfyc=&certified=&fuel=&body_code=0&awsp=false&search_type=both&distance=500&marketZipError=false&search_lang=en&make=HONDA&color=&keywords_display=&page_location=findacar%3A%3Aispsearchform&min_price=&drive=&default_sort=priceDESC&max_mileage=&style_flag=1&sort_type=priceASC&address=27606&advanced=&end_year=2002&transmission=&doors=&max_price=&cardist=160


hell, there's an AP2 for $13k. you can get an AP1 for a tiny bit less, but this car is a good deal.

2/20/2008 11:39:38 PM

^way to ruin the thread MODERATOR.

2/21/2008 12:13:17 AM

get that awd celica..

or this one
HOLLER

[image]http://images.craigslist.org/01010101020001030520080213562fddb15b95f5434b00113c.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/01010101020001030520080213562fddb15b95f5434b00113c.jpg[/image]

alltracs comin outta the fuckin' wood work

2/21/2008 12:18:12 AM

haha, oops.

http://tinyurl.com/2otnlo


too late to edit...a garage mod will have to fix

2/21/2008 12:25:49 AM

Quote :

" hell, there's an AP2 for $13k. you can get an AP1 for a tiny bit less, but this car is a good deal."

AP1 = 2000-2003
AP2 = 2004-200X X>3

Regards,

Fact




[Edited on February 21, 2008 at 8:33 AM. Reason : .]

2/21/2008 8:33:30 AM

I love the way the seller of that car tries to mask the fact that it needs a motor rebuild by stating that it merely needs 'piston rings for cylinder 1'....

That thing's a fuckin unit. Stay far, far away.

2/21/2008 11:12:56 AM

besides the engine stuff that has been well stated, I can't overstate how awful that paint job is.

2/21/2008 11:33:47 AM

Quote :

"I have up for sale an original 93 Turbo that has been swapped to a Gen 3 3S-GTE. Other than the intake and Apexi blow off valve, the car is stock."

how different is the gen 3 motor? I am suspicious of any car that has had any kind of swap and claims to be stock... a later generation motor would require you to hack up the wiring maybe?

it just bugs me when someone tries to peddle a car part or an entire car as pristine... except for one thing

2/21/2008 12:06:11 PM

HEAVILY moded stock engine = boom

2/21/2008 12:23:32 PM

I might actually check out that S2k. Thanks for the link Duke!

2/21/2008 12:24:12 PM

t67 making 300hp is like using a 12 gauge to kill a spider.

2/21/2008 12:30:35 PM

2004 S2000 for $19,998, I'm on it!

2/21/2008 10:08:46 PM

you could get a 2004 one with a certified honda warranty for near 20k (warranty until 2011).

2/22/2008 12:00:58 AM

Where? Honda of Cary?

2/22/2008 8:22:58 AM