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Titopizza
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http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2008-01-31-bush-budget_N.htm?csp=34

I like how Bush is only including expenditures for the war in Iraq through the end of his term, then doesn't budget for any more money to be spent.

1/31/2008 11:38:52 PM

skokiaan
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The budgets are yearly

[Edited on January 31, 2008 at 11:54 PM. Reason : .]

1/31/2008 11:40:26 PM

sarijoul
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the gov't fiscal year doesn't start in january.




[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 12:00 AM. Reason : way to edit out the ad hom when you realized how foolish you looked]

1/31/2008 11:43:10 PM

Titopizza
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I never said they weren't yearly, nor that the gov't fiscal year started in january. I was commenting that I thought the proposal was pretty crappy. Did they not teach you guys to read?

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 12:07 AM. Reason : anger]

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 12:18 AM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 12:02:22 AM

sarijoul
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i wasn't referring to you. i was defending you.;

2/1/2008 12:48:47 AM

Socks``
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Yah, he pulls this trick every year I think, not budgeting for the Iraq War.

If I understand it all correctly, this is exactly why congress is always debating spending bills for the war. The entire thing is left to "discretionary" spending.

I don't know why he does it that way. I've heard folks like Paul Krugman say that it's a sleezy way to make him look more fiscally conservative. *shrug*

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 6:22 AM. Reason : ``]

2/1/2008 6:21:04 AM

eyedrb
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"While the deficit should decline after 2009, Gregg said, long-term costs for Medicare and Social Security will drive it back up again."

wow, someone mentioned the 800lb gorrilla in the room.

I guess we should factor in the massive increase in entitlements proposed by the dems. Good news is that wont hit us until 09.

whole budget:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_federal_budget%2C_2008

[Edited on February 1, 2008 at 8:11 AM. Reason : .]

2/1/2008 8:10:12 AM

Titopizza
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^^^ Oh, ok. Thx

2/2/2008 5:38:49 PM

mrfrog

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Quote :
" * Mandatory spending: $1.788 trillion (+4.2%)
o $608 billion (+4.5%) - Social Security
o $386 billion (+5.2%) - Medicare
o $209 billion (+5.6%) - Medicaid and the State Children's Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)
o $324 billion (+1.8%) - Unemployment/Welfare/Other mandatory spending
o $261 billion (+9.2%) - Interest on National Debt
* Discretionary spending: $1.114 trillion (+3.1%)
o $481.4 billion (+12.1%) - United States Department of Defense
o $145.2 billion (+45.8%) - Global War on Terror
o $69.3 billion (+0.3%) - Health and Human Services
o $56.0 billion (+0.0%) - United States Department of Education
o $39.4 billion (+18.7%) - United States Department of Veterans Affairs
o $35.2 billion (+1.4%) - US Department of Housing and Urban Development
o $35.0 billion (+22.0%) - State and Other International Programs
o $34.3 billion (+7.2%) - Department of Homeland Security
o $24.3 billion (+6.6%) - Energy
o $20.2 billion (+4.1%) - Administration of justice
o $20.2 billion (+3.1%) - Department of Agriculture
o $17.3 billion (+6.8%) - National Aeronautics and Space Administration
o $12.1 billion (+13.1%) - Department of Transportation
o $12.1 billion (+6.1%) - Department of Treasury
o $10.6 billion (+2.9%) - United States Department of the Interior
o $10.6 billion (-9.4%) - United States Department of Labor
o $51.8 billion (+9.7%) - Other On-budget Discretionary Spending
o $39.0 billion - Other Off-budget Discretionary Spending
"


So pretty much spending increased in everything beyond inflation other than education, health care, labor programs, management of national lands, and housing.

Way to fucking go GWB. Just like the rest of your presidency.

2/2/2008 11:32:34 PM

eyedrb
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^really? You dont read it that entitlement spending is overall up 4.2 percent, while EVERYTHING else is only up 3.1%? Entitlements are the problem frog.

2/3/2008 9:09:12 AM

mrfrog

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What are entitlements and what on the list falls into this category?

2/5/2008 7:30:00 PM

eyedrb
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THe top cat. Im not sure if they lump interest on the national debt with interest lumped in on entitlment programs and loans from that.

So, SS, Medicare, medicaid, welfare, unemployment

2/5/2008 7:54:00 PM

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