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God
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The next one of you that says you're voting for Hillary Clinton because she's a woman is going to get pimpslapped back to 1919.

1/9/2008 12:41:22 PM

ScHpEnXeL
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first

1/9/2008 12:41:45 PM

mcfluffle
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AMEN.

1/9/2008 12:44:04 PM

TheTabbyCat
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I'm voting for Hillary Clinton because she's a woman.

1/9/2008 12:44:10 PM

God
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"As the exit polls have shown, the Democratic primary is turning into a battle between the people that pay for Social Security and those that collect it."

1/9/2008 12:44:54 PM

LaserSoup
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While you're at it go ahead and pimpslap anyone who votes for Obama bin Donkey.

1/9/2008 12:46:17 PM

TheTabbyCat
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Oh and I'm voting for Obama because he's black too.

1/9/2008 12:46:59 PM

eleusis
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there's no room for white men in the democratic party anymore.

1/9/2008 12:49:21 PM

Snewf
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I'm voting for Rice because she's a black woman

1/9/2008 12:52:04 PM

Vix
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1/9/2008 12:54:45 PM

eleusis
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Why waste your time voting for a democratic candidate when you live in NC?

1/9/2008 12:55:50 PM

LS1powered
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go Hilary!

1/9/2008 12:57:34 PM

Talage
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^^ b/c the yankees are moving their occupation force, err I mean retirees, down here

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 12:58 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 12:58:04 PM

TreeTwista10
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your vote can make a difference!!11

1/9/2008 12:58:57 PM

Troop
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I hope that Obama wins. That way I never again have to hear that "the white man is holding me down" bullshit. The thug-life group should disappear immediately seeing as how anybody actually could go as far as they wanted to in life without social limitations being thrust upon them. Also, Al and Jesse would begin to realize that things are going better than they thought...


































...yeah, right.

1/9/2008 1:07:26 PM

begonias
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I'd like to see Ron Paul win, but I'll be happy as long as it's NOT Hillary.

1/9/2008 1:08:56 PM

lewoods
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If Hillary gets elected expect to be paying for healthcare for all the illegal mexicans out of your paycheck.

No thanks, I don't want her in office.

1/9/2008 1:09:19 PM

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"expect to be paying for healthcare for all the illegal mexicans out of your paycheck."


we already do....

1/9/2008 1:10:17 PM

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"I'd like to see Ron Paul win, but I'll be happy as long as it's NOT Hillary"
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"I'd like to see Ron Paul win, but I'll be happy as long as it's NOT Hillary"

1/9/2008 1:12:14 PM

lewoods
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"we already do...."

No, it'll be much worse than it already is.

Now they over-run ERs and the health departments, but imagine how many of them would try to apply for disability once they realized they could!

1/9/2008 1:17:39 PM

Vix
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"I'd like to see Ron Paul win, but I'll be happy as long as it's NOT Hillary"

1/9/2008 1:18:30 PM

casummer
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my grandfather told me to never discuss politics, religion, or money

1/9/2008 1:21:09 PM

TreeTwista10
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i thought i recall you discussing money in the used gun thread

1/9/2008 1:22:16 PM

khcadwal
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just a friendly reminder that our economy would die without illegal immigrants so while we (collectively speaking) may not like hillary's approach to health care, i feel it is important to note we can't just ship them all back to mexico (as some would have it).

1/9/2008 1:22:43 PM

TreeTwista10
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"our economy would die without illegal immigrants"


heaven forbid all those jobs get filled by teenagers and college kids like they used to be

1/9/2008 1:23:55 PM

khcadwal
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yes all the college kids and teenagers that used to work in the fields (migrant labor anyone?). oh wait, those were SLAVES

1/9/2008 1:25:09 PM

TreeTwista10
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yeah cause no legal immigrants ever did any work

it was slaves, and then illegals, nobody else in between, its that simple

i know my world will be shattered when i have to mow my own grass

1/9/2008 1:27:51 PM

casummer
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^^^^^i said my grandfather said not to do so. i never said i practiced what he told me.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:28 PM. Reason : ^s]

1/9/2008 1:28:05 PM

SymeGuy69
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Serious question:

Would Obama really be the first "African American" president? You know, cause he ain't that black...

Side question:

Would Hillary be the first female president, considering her grotesquely large clitoris?

1/9/2008 1:30:16 PM

khcadwal
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"i know my world will be shattered when i have to mow my own grass"


yes because that is all mexicans do. get brain, THEN post.

1/9/2008 1:30:22 PM

TreeTwista10
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oh so now all illegal immigrants are "mexicans"? only "mexicans" mow grass? you sure are racist

1/9/2008 1:31:13 PM

mdozer73
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Did you ever earn an A in a class that you really had to work for?

Do you know someone who had a really fun that same semester partying instead of studying and barely made C's or D's?

The Democratic Party's stance is like taking YOUR A's and giving them to someone else who didn't work so hard so you both end up with like a B- average. I personally think I should be able to keep my hard earned ___________. (fill the blank with whatever you wish: money, grades, etc. to complete the simile.)

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:33 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 1:32:15 PM

Snewf
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illegal immigration is a problem, for sure

but we can't just deport everybody... at least not at the expense of the federal government
the businesses that lured the illegal labor here need to take some responsibility for the problems they've created

1/9/2008 1:32:17 PM

TreeTwista10
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we don't need to deport most of them...they came on their own, they can leave on their own...and maybe they would if we didnt hire them ^

1/9/2008 1:34:00 PM

SymeGuy69
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At least there wouldn't be any new houses for yankees to move to

1/9/2008 1:34:44 PM

casummer
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i work in lawn care during the summer with a bunch of mexicans and all i can say is i wish more americans were willing to work as hard as they do instead of sitting around collecting a piece of the working man's earnings. i do also wish that the illegals payed taxes like the rest of us, but as soon as that happens they'll probably start getting a piece of my paycheck too.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:38 PM. Reason : V that'd be me...i'm totally legal]

1/9/2008 1:35:13 PM

mdozer73
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"the businesses that lured the illegal labor here need to take some responsibility for the problems they've created"


Show me an individual who is not an illegal immigrant that will work with the physical requirements as follows:

Physical demands may include balancing, pushing, climbing, pulling, stooping, reaching, carrying, lifting up to 75 pounds. Working conditions are outside and dry or wet with inadequate light, dirty, hot/humid, dusty, cold, noisy with hazards.

All for about $10/HR before taxes.

Business did not LURE the employees. The employees are only filling a need.

1/9/2008 1:36:21 PM

TreeTwista10
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also the international drug rings need to stop hiring the illegal immigrants to run drugs over the border...take some responsibility for the jobs you create, you know?

1/9/2008 1:37:42 PM

khcadwal
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"oh so now all illegal immigrants are "mexicans"? only "mexicans" mow grass? you sure are racist"


you are the one that insinuated this actually. since my previous post that you responded to with the grass mowing post was about migrant labor. and because typically when people refer to illegal immigrants they are talking about mexicans. so, no. not racist, but please play again!!!


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"Did you ever earn an A in a class that you really had to work for?

Do you know someone who had a really fun that same semester partying instead of studying and barely made C's or D's?

The Democratic Party's stance is like taking YOUR A's and giving them to someone else who didn't work so hard so you both end up with like a B- average. I personally think I should be able to keep my hard earned ___________. (fill the blank with whatever you wish: money, grades, etc. to complete the simile.)"


if this is referring to illegal immigrants, you could use the same example to go the opposite way. yes, they benefit from being here, but a lot of the benefits derived are not THAT great. and they work just as hard or harder than other CITIZENS for a lot less money and for shittay living conditions (but a lot greater than where they came from).

my only point is that a fix to immigration is probably not deporting everyone.

1/9/2008 1:38:04 PM

GGMon
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http://www.tshirthell.com/store/product.php?productid=927

1/9/2008 1:38:57 PM

khcadwal
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"we don't need to deport most of them...they came on their own, they can leave on their own...and maybe they would if we didnt hire them ^"


good call. tell everyone to stop hiring cheap labor then. i'm sure everyone will agree to that. and, while you're at it don't forget to mention that they should also stop paying the workers "under the table" with cash. they'll loooooove you.

1/9/2008 1:39:53 PM

TreeTwista10
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"you are the one that insinuated this actually."


i never once said the word mexican but i insinuated it? its because you wanted to think thats what i was insinuating

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"typically when people refer to illegal immigrants they are talking about mexicans."


wow the racist trash just falls from your fingertips to the keyboard like raindrops...your xenophobic stereotypes just made me throw up in my mouth

1/9/2008 1:40:00 PM

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"Why waste your time voting for a democratic candidate when you live in NC?"



seriously...i mean i'm gonna tell people i voted but i aint voting for shit in this republican state

1/9/2008 1:40:40 PM

khcadwal
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^^ well it is true. you can keep calling me a racist but i don't see a huge movement to deport all the illegal canadians living here.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:41 PM. Reason : .]

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"i never once said the word mexican but i insinuated it? its because you wanted to think thats what i was insinuating
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the reason why i said you insinuated it, is because my first post in this thread, was referring to people that had complained that hillary's healthcare plan would give all of their $$$ to mexicans. and since you continued the conversation AND said the thing about mowing lawns AND responded right after a post where i talked about migrant labor, it would appear that you too, were also talking about mexicans. but since you're not, where IS the movement to deport other illegals? there isn't one. you can call me racist but even when politicians talk about border control and illegal immigrants they are primarily speaking of MEXICO and MEXICANS. it isn't an idea perpetuated all by my little self

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:45 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 1:40:55 PM

TreeTwista10
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how about all the illegal immigrants from south and central america and in the Caribbean? are they all "mexicans"? most latinos in New York are from Puerto Rico...most latinos in Miami are Cuban...yet somehow I insinuated Mexicans..............

i dont think deporting millions of people is possible and until we beef up border security they'd just come back anyway

i just wish they would pay taxes and learn english and, oh yeah, go through the proper channels for legal immigration

1/9/2008 1:42:31 PM

mdozer73
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Do you really want to raise the cost of construction by 5% or so to double the lowest paid person's salary? That is what it would take for American-born people to do the jobs required to build a single building.

Would you for $8.50 an hour work outside when it is 35F with the wind howling while you are trying to install a sewer pipe 20 feet in the ground?

How about tying rebar? Or placing concrete?

Or paving a road when it is 110F in the shade and the asphalt is coming off the truck at 450F?

People of our generation WILL NOT work for that. Sorry, but the illegal immigrants are a necessary evil. No matter the precautions or the amount of money our government spends, people will ALWAYS figure out how to beat the system to fill the need.

[Edited on January 9, 2008 at 1:46 PM. Reason : .]

1/9/2008 1:45:43 PM

TreeTwista10
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i've worked summers at a construction company and everybody was either american or legal

its not some fucking inevitable thing that businesses cant avoid

besides, you know what else is cheap labor? outsourcing

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there are a bunch of pussy ass soft motherfuckers nowadays...i blame too much coddling

1/9/2008 1:47:24 PM

khcadwal
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"and learn english"


yet some how i am being portrayed as the ignorant one.

1/9/2008 1:47:57 PM

drunknloaded
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a lot of mexicans do pay taxes

1/9/2008 1:48:13 PM

TreeTwista10
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^^you must be ignorant of the fact that plenty of people in this country dont know english, specifically illegal immigrants

1/9/2008 1:48:54 PM

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