I am biased I will admit, but McCarthey from Green Bay gets my nod...although it wouldn't bother me if Gibbs got it...

1/2/2008 6:55:17 PM

theres that one coach that didnt lose a game

1/2/2008 6:56:45 PM

Petrino

1/2/2008 6:57:46 PM

brian billick

1/2/2008 6:59:10 PM

in all seriousness, i don't understand how this could even be up for discussion when you have a coach take his team to 16-0.

1/2/2008 7:01:17 PM

phishnlou - I truly believe he is a good coach Belichek (sp) but you put him at Green Bay, Jacksonville, or the Redskins and I don't they would have done as well....the guy from the Browns should get some votes too now that I think of it

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 7:02 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2008 7:01:30 PM

conversely, Put McCarthey or Gibbs at New England, do they go 16-0? Probably not.

1/2/2008 7:03:02 PM

I think even you n00b could guide that team to 16 - 0.....but seriously that is more about chemistry then it was him being some great coach.....take Moss out of the equation and they would prob lose 3 or 4 games that they won in my opinion.

1/2/2008 7:05:07 PM

exactly, he put that team together. If you gave him this years Dolphins they wouldn't go 16-0. He should be coach of the year and he probably will be.

Just because he isn't popular doesn't mean he doesn't deserve coach of the year (first person ever to a coach a team to 16-0 seems like a no brainer to me).

newb.

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 7:10 PM. Reason : s]

1/2/2008 7:06:53 PM

Joe Jackson Gibbs

1/2/2008 7:13:32 PM

16-0 = coach of the year
Doesn't matter if Kevin Everett came back and coached the Bills into first place. This, Rookie of the Year, and MVP should all be unanimous.

1/2/2008 7:14:43 PM

Romeo.

1/2/2008 7:18:57 PM

Quote :

"take Moss out of the equation and they would prob lose 3 or 4 games that they won in my opinion."

also, you can't just hypothetically take players off the team to try and prove a point that a non 16-0 coach should win coach of the year, n00b.

1/2/2008 7:19:12 PM

1/2/2008 7:19:22 PM

Quote :

"Rookie of the Year, and MVP should all be unanimous"

If I had a vote, it would be for Joe Thomas and Randy Moss, respectively.


Call me a stupid motherfucker.

1/2/2008 7:24:08 PM

how is this even debatable?

this should be the most lopsided vote in the history of the award

1/2/2008 7:26:21 PM

^^stupid motherfucker

you asked

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 7:28 PM. Reason : w]

1/2/2008 7:27:40 PM

Remember when Merriman didn't get Defensive POY because he got caught cheating?

yeah.

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 7:29 PM. Reason : ]

1/2/2008 7:28:55 PM

remember when merriman was suspended for four games?

remember when bellichek was suspended for zero games?

yeah

1/2/2008 7:30:54 PM

rookie of the year goes to ryan grant IMO


coach of the year should go to del rio or mccarthy

1/2/2008 7:34:58 PM

I don't think Grant counts as a rookie

even though he didn't play last year

it doesnt work like baseball

even so, Peterson and Thomas were more deserving

1/2/2008 7:38:32 PM

Eric Berry

1/2/2008 7:39:44 PM

I thought Peterson deserved ROY as soon as I saw he got 296 yards in a single game.

1/2/2008 7:40:03 PM

Quote :

"remember when merriman was suspended for four games? remember when bellichek was suspended for zero games? yeah "

Don't see how that's relevant, he still outperformed sean taylor's 16 games in only 12 games.

1/2/2008 7:41:01 PM

He's lucky he blew up early

because he played like shit the last 4 weeks

1/2/2008 7:41:38 PM

^ i'll think he'll be really good next year if Minny can get a decent QB in there

1/2/2008 7:45:36 PM

ROY:

1/2/2008 7:45:59 PM

they don't have a just plain "ROY" award like they do "MVP" do they?

And ^ is definitely defensive ROY.

1/2/2008 7:48:22 PM

they have both offensive and defensive

and Willis wins hands down...should be unanimous

However, if anyone steals any votes, it'll be Jon Beason

1/2/2008 7:50:57 PM

Quote :

"Don't see how that's relevant, he still outperformed sean taylor's 16 games in only 12 games."

you mean jason taylor?

merriman had more sacks (3.5 more) and tackles (1), taylor had 1 more interception, 5 more forced fumbles, 2 more TDs, and 3 more pass deflections

i'd give the slight edge to taylor, statistically

and san diego won the four games merriman was suspended, so i guess he wasn't that valuable

--

also, wikipedia says mario williams won the 2007 DPOY award

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 7:55 PM. Reason : ]

1/2/2008 7:54:10 PM

I think sometimes that reporters edit wikipedia before they break the story to the press

1/2/2008 8:00:28 PM

i think sometimes asshats edit wikipedia

1/2/2008 8:01:15 PM

Jason, Sean, whatever

Jason Taylor might as well be dead for the impact he has had this year.

1/2/2008 8:05:36 PM

do the coaches vote for the coach of the year?

if thats the case, i can see belichek not getting it

1/2/2008 8:26:24 PM

no, the AP writers vote

1/2/2008 8:29:46 PM

I hate to admit it....but Ernie is correct :-) And I don't think it is a slam dunk he will win it..(Belichek)
..I think the writers don't like him cause he doesn't talk to the press much....and then there is the whole cheating thing.....not sure it is the slam dunk everyone thinks it is that he will win...

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 8:35 PM. Reason : .]

1/2/2008 8:33:04 PM

it is a slam dunk

1/2/2008 8:45:20 PM

he doesn't talk to the media much? i guess the post-game press conferences don't count?

i don't think there's any media bias against belichick

it's a slam dunk

1/2/2008 8:48:28 PM

I dont know... did Belicheat actually COACH better than previous years? or did he just have better players around... I could see McCarthy getting it


^ he physically talks yes, but hes a shitty shitty interview, media people hate talking to him

[Edited on January 2, 2008 at 8:51 PM. Reason : d]

1/2/2008 8:51:02 PM

it doesn't matter if he did better than previous years

he did a better job than every other coach this year

that's what the award is about

though i'd love to see it go to mccarthy

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and is there any evidence of AP writers hating belichick or is this just conjecture?

1/2/2008 8:55:35 PM

Yeah he was the coach who took a chance on Randy Moss for a 4th round draft pick, and it paid off big. Coach of the year, SLAM DUNK.

1/2/2008 8:55:39 PM

^^ its not just whoever has the best record every year... otherwise they wouldnt have to vote

1/2/2008 8:56:58 PM

well no shit, i never said it was

but he did a great job building this team and did something no coach has ever done

that's a slam dunk if there ever was one

i suppose you think peyton manning should win coach of the year?

1/2/2008 8:58:51 PM

COY - Belichick
POY - Brady
ROY - Peterson

1/2/2008 8:59:08 PM

^^ no, that would be stupid because he is a player, not a coach. I am just saying that pure coaching job, as in getting your players to do what they couldnt do without you I dont know if he wins it. I dont think he is suddenly a badass coach this year, he always has been, so the fact that he has better players now which = better record doesnt mean hes suddenly figured out how to coach. As for McCarthy... he did a LOT with a team no one expected to do shit

1/2/2008 9:01:36 PM

i think mccarthy did a bang-up job but no one did better in terms of player personnel or on the field coaching this year than belichick

that's my opinion, at least

1/2/2008 9:04:09 PM

fair enough, I think he will win it too, just saying I wont ernie my pants if McCarthy does

1/2/2008 9:06:29 PM

Fuck McCarthy this guy was a piece of shit for San Fran

1/2/2008 9:14:09 PM

Quote :

"he has better players now"

his biggest pick up was Randy Moss which many teams didn't want to take a chance on given his history. He took that chance this year, it paid off big. I think you just like to argue.

1/2/2008 9:51:40 PM

A. Thomas, Welker, and Stallworth are also pretty big pick ups.

But I do agree this piece of shit Belichick should win

1/2/2008 9:59:31 PM