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NCSUMEB
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Can someone tell me why this is outlawed? I understand horse collaring a QB in the backfield and why that's illegal, just like looking at a QB the wrong way is a 15 yard penalty because QB's sell tickets, but anyone who crosses the line of scrimmage with the football should be fair game, it's not even that vicious, I realize legs and ankles get tangled up, but there are so many other tackles and hits much more dangerous and when you're past the LOS, it should be fair game to do this. Does anyone actually think Roy Williams is a dirty player, I don't

12/18/2007 11:22:19 AM

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12/18/2007 11:23:57 AM

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http://usatoday.feedroom.com/?fr_story=3d58ea6bf72f1ccf97a60689b0bdb148befa1f61

12/18/2007 11:24:08 AM

Fermata
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I'm not a fan of the slide rule.


If you run and don't want to get hit you need to find a sideline.

12/18/2007 11:24:49 AM

simonn
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it's b/c of the often occuring whip into the ground the head receives.

12/18/2007 11:26:43 AM

TreeTwista10
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Quote :
"Does anyone actually think Roy Williams is a dirty player, I don't"


Does anyone actually think Roy Williams can cover anybody and not just hit somebody, I don't

12/18/2007 11:27:39 AM

Slave Famous
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"it's b/c of the often occuring whip into the ground the head receives."


Wrong


Its easy as hell to break someone's leg. If you're running and you have your feet planted, then someone suddenly tugs you straight down, your feet (especially with cleats) are locked into the ground, and don't move enough to counter the sudden reversal of direction.




See, here TO's left leg is still planted into the ground even though his body is being lurched backwards, resulting in his fibula breaking due to too much pressure.



[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 11:30 AM. Reason : x]

12/18/2007 11:28:44 AM

pilgrimshoes
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not to mention a 200+lb man falling directly onto the same point at the bottom of the legs

[Edited on December 18, 2007 at 11:31 AM. Reason : it's like leading with your helmet, but just a different motion. ]

12/18/2007 11:30:58 AM

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"Does anyone actually think Roy Williams is a dirty player, I don't"


No he is not. He actually is a more decent guy than you think. And he really can't cover. Thing is somehow he has made a bad habit of tackling this way and cannot stop.

12/18/2007 11:31:33 AM

uNC SUcks
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It's not hard to stop tackling that way.

12/18/2007 12:28:16 PM

TreeTwista10
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when you have a type of illegal tackle named after you, you might have a problem

12/18/2007 12:29:54 PM

Senez
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^^nope. especially considering the tackle on mcnabb could've been made if he had dived at his feet and tripped him up. he wasn't that far from him.

12/18/2007 1:01:30 PM

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Quote :
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Its easy as hell to break someone's leg. If you're running and you have your feet planted, then someone suddenly tugs you straight down, your feet (especially with cleats) are locked into the ground, and don't move enough to counter the sudden reversal of direction."


i'm pretty sure he was talking about the slide rule. like with trent green last year in KC

12/18/2007 1:23:21 PM

amac884
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are you kidding...you should only have to watch 1 to see why it is outlawed

12/18/2007 1:38:33 PM

9one9
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lol @ williams appealing

i wonder what he will say?

12/18/2007 9:18:49 PM

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what does this have to do with the slide rule?

12/18/2007 10:16:41 PM

hershculez
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Yeah I cringe a little every time I see Roy do that.

12/19/2007 3:21:16 AM

Gumbified
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no video yet? c'mon premies

12/19/2007 4:03:59 AM

stowaway
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9APM6mNVCVY

Is that what you were wanting?

[Edited on December 19, 2007 at 8:21 AM. Reason : ]

12/19/2007 8:19:37 AM

DevilWolf
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just about every nfl rule that has been created in the past 3 years is fucking gay

12/19/2007 9:26:10 AM

MOODY
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get horses out of sports talk!

12/19/2007 9:29:55 AM

Arab13
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horse collar tackles are banned to prevent season ending injuries that were very common with this kind of tackle. these sort of injuries also threaten the players career as well.

12/19/2007 10:33:48 AM

Senez
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Wade Phillips' comments on this are stupid, but I take them as coach speak standing up for his guy.

I can really see the same thing that happened to Theismann's leg happening on one of these tackles.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGbmctX9WBQ

video not for the queasy, though you've probably seen it

12/19/2007 10:56:02 AM

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