This has to be done to be fair to Herb.

As critical as we all were of that piece of shit, anytime a coach butchers a game that badly he deserves a thread.

He's got a long way to go before he gets a free pass for mailing in games like that. Two fucking NIT wins aren't good enough this season.

11/18/2007 8:35:38 PM

^die newb

lol

11/18/2007 8:36:09 PM

11/18/2007 8:36:47 PM

why couldnt monty towe have been coaching campbell or something

11/18/2007 8:36:48 PM

11/18/2007 8:36:52 PM

i dont think anyone who makes threads like this:

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=495293

should be allowed to judge anyones credibility.

11/18/2007 8:37:01 PM

way to early in the season to be questioning his credibility

11/18/2007 8:37:15 PM

Lets be honest here, rally lost big bucks betting on this game...betcha a McRib thats the case.

11/18/2007 8:37:37 PM

WERE THE BEST ONE LOSS TEAM IN THE NATION HAHAHAHAHAHA

11/18/2007 8:37:49 PM

SIDNEY LOWE > MICHAEL VICK > BRETT FAVRE

11/18/2007 8:37:50 PM

No, its definitely not too early for anything.

We are not in a strong conference this year and we have a weak out of conference schedule.

I didn't appreciate being a bubble team under Herb and I won't accept it out of Lowe either.

This was a huge loss, we were -2000 and we lost despite having Hickson dominate both ends of the court AND opposition that couldn't make a fucking basket to save their lives.

No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us.

Quote :

"Lets be honest here, rally lost big bucks betting on this game...betcha a McRib thats the case."

You lose, I said in the game thread I wouldn't have touched State -18.5. I would've won if I ever bet sports anymore.


[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 8:40 PM. Reason : a]

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 8:41 PM. Reason : a]

11/18/2007 8:39:48 PM

no doubt


never, EVER play ferguson again. EVER. please, quit basketball, for all of us

11/18/2007 8:40:35 PM

Quote :

"We are not in a strong conference this year "

SUSPEND ACC BASKETBALL FOR A YEAR!

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"we have a weak out of conference schedule"

SUSPEND NC STATE BASKETBALL FOR A YEAR!

11/18/2007 8:40:51 PM

the other team was scrappy and wanted it more...those teams are always hard fighters

11/18/2007 8:41:17 PM

BOISE HERE WE COME!!!

11/18/2007 8:41:23 PM

maybe state basketball should be suspended for a year.

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 8:41 PM. Reason : ha, i guess i was too late.]

11/18/2007 8:41:27 PM

Herb was pretty popular at the beginning of his second year.

11/18/2007 8:41:46 PM

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"baonest All American 40662 Posts user info edit post haha yeah, really. every year someone says that, oh wait, the whole school thinks that. but what happens is, the same thing that happens every year, we get ranked and lose 4 in a row. then we get ranked.. and we lose more. *ranked = somewhere between 17th-25th place. because we cant get ranked and lower, or higher, or however you look it."

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 8:42 PM. Reason : ]

11/18/2007 8:42:15 PM

Do you understand that if you bet $200 on NC State to win this game you would have only won $10 IF we had won?

This was humiliating, New Orleans played terribly from wire to wire.

11/18/2007 8:42:31 PM

Question Sidney?

What the fuck are you talking about?

Blame Courtney's intentional foul and then Gavin's last second dumb foul for the loss, but not Sid.

We can't execute the pass from the point into the paint, and we get discouraged and shoot too many threes and don't make them.

God you're a fucking dumbshit rally.

11/18/2007 8:42:36 PM

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"No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

Quote :

"No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

Quote :

"No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

Quote :

"No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

Quote :

"No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

Quote :

"No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

11/18/2007 8:42:39 PM

do we have to always scream FIRE after every bad loss?

oh wait this is thewolfweb.

11/18/2007 8:43:16 PM

Quote :

" No question about it, Lowe's substitutions lost this game for us."

YEA

WHY DID HE TAKE THOSE GUYS OUT THAT WERENT HUSTLING

AND PUT IN THOSE GUYS THAT WERENT HUSTLING

WHY DID HE TELL FELLS TO INTENTIONAL FOUL

WHY DID HE TELL OUR GUYS TO SAY FUCK THE DFENSE, WERE STATE BITCH

WHY DID COSTNER NOT GET ON THE FLOOR FOR A LOOSE BALL? SID TOLD HIM!

FIRE SID@###@$@#42423432

11/18/2007 8:43:19 PM

everybody but grant, hickson, and degand looked lazy as motherfucker, too.

11/18/2007 8:44:43 PM

We just lost AT HOME to a shitty team from a shitty conference that shot 35% FG and 16% 3PT


That game was about as bad as anything Herb graced us with in his career.

11/18/2007 8:44:43 PM

too many damn turnovers and not enough rebounds down the stretch

blame the players, not the coach

11/18/2007 8:44:48 PM

YAWA YAWA YAWA YAWA YAWA YAWW YAWWWWW HERB SENDEK

11/18/2007 8:46:12 PM

Quote :

"shoot too many threes and don't make them. "

We shot 15 threes total. Thats about 20 less than we would have with Sendek at the helm. We hit 5 of them which is fine.

If you can't recognize we lost that game because our subs were on the court everytime we jumped out to a lead then you're blind.

11/18/2007 8:46:27 PM

another gem of a thread rally

are you hcnyugen's alias?

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 8:47 PM. Reason : asdf]

11/18/2007 8:46:58 PM

rally is 100% right about the substitutions.

11/18/2007 8:48:25 PM

but it is up to the coach to put the players in a position to win. 10+ mins a piece from a shitty bench in a tight game? why would you keep less talented players on the bench when the game is close?? that is definitely on Sid

11/18/2007 8:48:42 PM

Quote :

"If you can't recognize we lost that game because our subs were on the court everytime we jumped out to a lead then you're blind."

truth. we looked absolutely god awful with that second team + grant in there

11/18/2007 8:48:50 PM

suspend. this guy trolls on a daily basis

11/18/2007 8:49:11 PM

how is he trolling

he's 100% correct

at one point our lineup was fergie+javi+horner+ben+coster

that is retarded

11/18/2007 8:50:56 PM

I can understand that lineup playing against pembroke. In the preseason.

11/18/2007 8:51:45 PM

Look if you've ever played basketball at ANY level you know that ANYTHING can happen down the stretch.

You never allow a team to hang close because anything can happen in 3-4 possessions.

That would have been a double digit win if Sidney hadn't put the scrubs in both times we opened ~8 point leads.

If a guy brings NOTHING to the table he doesn't get burn. That's all there is to it.

11/18/2007 8:51:58 PM

the only thing i can think of is that maybe Sidney realized how lackluster the play has been up to this point (minus Hickson) and wanted to shake things up. make these guys realize that no one's spot is locked up. and in the long run, this game shouldn't really matter too much except for as a WAKE UP CALL, which it definitely will be

11/18/2007 8:56:27 PM

rally's right about sid making bad substitutions

but a credibility watch? give me a fucking break

he's been here for one year and two games

rally just likes to make outlandish, polarizing threads so when he's right he can jack off over it

nine times out of ten, though, he's wrong as a motherfucker

see: MICHAEL VICK IS A GOLDEN GOD

11/18/2007 8:57:23 PM

Quote :

"Look if you've ever played basketball at ANY level you know that ANYTHING can happen down the stretch."

Exactly, which is why if you're a starter you should have the killer mother fucking instinct and want to go out and embarrass a team so hard that their mothers will disown them.

We should have wrapped this up when we got up 13-4. Instead, we thought it was going to be another snooze fest, and not one damn person on the team took any leadership role and got us hyped up. Not one fucking player.

This isn't on sid you dipshit.

11/18/2007 8:57:59 PM

We will have a 7 man rotation by next game I bet. No sense playing all of these guys so much. Ferguson and Tracy Smith should not be playing. Ben should be the first off the bench and take a pick between Gonzalez and Horner as the 7th guy. All the other guys should be on a as needed basis.

11/18/2007 8:58:02 PM

double post

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 9:00 PM. Reason : my stupid comp]

11/18/2007 8:58:27 PM

Meh, we have to learn whether these scrubs can play at some point or another. We're not gonna win shit with 6 players again. Yeah, he fucked up and left them in too long, but we still would have won the game if not for some improbable plays down the stretch. Like I said, shit happens. We need to get the rotation figured out before ACC competition starts though, so I'm ok with us experimenting now.

11/18/2007 8:59:09 PM

ferguson should never touch the court again

11/18/2007 8:59:12 PM

this loss cost us 1 or 2 seedings in the ncaa tournament if we make it that far

11/18/2007 9:00:26 PM

Don't get me wrong I still like Lowe and I think this team has a lot of potential.

But I would have raked Herb over the coals for a loss like that and Sidney deserves the blame at his feet too.

He has got to know that was an unacceptable effort from his players and more importantly his in-game coaching performance.

We were 5-11 in the ACC last season, there's no excuse for those guys to be sucking each others dicks yet. (not a tennis reference)

11/18/2007 9:00:27 PM

this shit is embarrassing, fire the whole fucking team

11/18/2007 9:00:41 PM

Quote :

"rally just likes to make outlandish, polarizing threads so when he's right he can jack off over it"

No, what I don't like is this entire school has this loser attitude. Everyone here is okay with losing. It's like the whole NC State nation is conditioned to losing.

Chuck was losing but it was okay.

Herb was losing but it was okay.

Enough is enough, I don't accept losing. No more of this shit. Winners do not accept losing.

That is why the same schools win every year and the same schools lose every year barring a few fluky seasons.

Fuck this garbage ass losing that you NC State fans are just indifferent to.



[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 9:07 PM. Reason : a]

11/18/2007 9:05:03 PM

Quote :

"No, what I don't like is this entire school has this loser attitude. Everyone here is okay with losing. It's like the whole NC State nation is conditioned to losing."

Are you fucking joking? Really? You have to be one of the most retarded people to post in this section, hands down, 100% certified Angus retard.

11/18/2007 9:06:52 PM

there's a difference between accepting losing (which, if you could read the replies to your own thread, you would realize no one is doing) and holding a coach to the flames after one shitty loss

it's one shitty loss -- it's when it becomes habitual that it becomes a problem

don't herb sidney

11/18/2007 9:07:25 PM

i dont think anyone who makes threads like this:

http://www.brentroad.com/message_topic.aspx?topic=495293

should be allowed to judge anyones credibility.

11/18/2007 9:08:43 PM