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"Stacks of Cash Seized in Traffic Stop Posted: Today at 1:59 p.m. Newton Grove — More than $140,000 in cash was seized Thursday afternoon during a routine traffic stop, authorities said. Members of the Sampson County Sheriff's Office Highway Enforcement Awareness Team pulled over a 1999 Honda Accord on U.S. Highway 701 south of Newton Grove for a window tint violation. The driver tried to flee on foot but was apprehended after a brief chase, authorities said. A K-9 picked up a scent off the car, and authorities said they found the cash hidden in locations throughout the vehicle. Neither the driver nor a passenger claimed the cash, so investigators seized it under federal forfeiture guidelines, authorities said. Rigoberto Rivera, 25, of 323 Flowers Road in Mount Olive, was charged with resist, delay and obstruction of an investigation and with taunting a police K-9."

Dude was charged with "resist, obstruct, delay" and lost $140k.

11/16/2007 3:44:54 PM

and his money was probably also charged with a crime or something along those lines

11/16/2007 3:46:13 PM

dont forget the funniest charge

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"taunting a police K-9."

11/16/2007 3:46:27 PM

And he'll be executed by whoever paid him to make that run.

Unless he can come up with another $140k that is.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 3:47 PM. Reason : s]

11/16/2007 3:46:45 PM

SHIT, IT AIN'T MINE!

11/16/2007 3:46:53 PM

90% of people could've held on to that loot.

11/16/2007 3:47:13 PM

damn war on drugs

11/16/2007 3:47:42 PM

good inconspicuous car for transporting goods

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thank god for firefox spell checker

11/16/2007 3:48:38 PM

11/16/2007 3:50:04 PM

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"Q: What kind of lawyer do I need to get my money back from the FBI? They took it from me thinking it was drug money. A: You should look for an attorney who's experienced in defending federal assets forfeiture cases and criminal drug cases. Under the federal assets forfeiture and drug laws, the government can seize and keep currency that was either used in connection with a drug transaction or which constitutes "proceeds" from a drug transaction. An example of "proceeds" is profits. The government will mail you a notice of its intent to keep your money. Since you'll only have a limited time to file a claim for the money to contest the seizure in court, or to file a petition with the government asking them to return your money and stating your reasons for why the money should be returned, be sure to seek out legal counsel as soon as possible to help you decide which route is best for you. Contesting the seizure in court will likely take longer, but it also means that a judge, instead of the agency seizing the money, will decide your right to the money. Recently a new federal forfeiture law was passed containing numerous reforms in favor of the person whose property was seized. For example, the new law makes the government come up with more proof that your money was either used in a drug transaction or that it constitutes profit from one. The new law also allows you to get a lawyer at no cost if you can't afford a lawyer to contest the seizure, allows for the release of seized property pending a final decision by the court in certain hardship cases and eliminates the need for you to post a bond to claim the property. Your lawyer can help you figure out whether the FBI unlawfully seized your money to begin with and whether you have any other defenses to the seizure."

11/16/2007 3:50:39 PM

11/16/2007 4:02:15 PM

dead man walking

11/16/2007 4:08:50 PM

i mean

dude should have played it cool

it ain't illegal to ball out with 140k

11/16/2007 4:21:59 PM

^ it is

11/16/2007 4:27:02 PM

then why wasnt that part of his charges

11/16/2007 4:29:43 PM

What is the most amount of cash you can legally carry?

11/16/2007 4:29:43 PM

you can legally carry as much cash as you want. How can there possibly be a law against how much money you can have on you? While 140k in cash is very suspicious, it's up to them to prove it was illegally obtained.

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 4:36 PM. Reason : .]

11/16/2007 4:34:28 PM

Window tint violation? Probably just an excuse to stop & harass. I have illegal window tint and don't get hassled, but I don't drive a chromed-out hooptie and I'm white. Judging by the looks of the Sampson Co. deputies, they probably stop anyone they feel like and act like assholes just for the power trip. I drove through there once on I-40 and they were stopping cars left and right, hiding out in every ditch and around every curve, dressed in their black paramilitary gear, sitting in their own heavily-tinted black unmarked crown vics (which are conveniently exempt from tint restrictions).

11/16/2007 4:34:35 PM

Is that your money?

Um, no officer.

Shit finders keepers then bitches.

11/16/2007 4:36:30 PM

11/16/2007 4:37:16 PM

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"While 140k in cash is very suspicious, it's up to them to prove it was illegally obtained."

This is not true. They can confiscate cash under the pretenses it is involved in drug trafficking and you have to prove your innocence to recover it.

I agree this is contradictory of everything our country stands for but it is Federal Law. There are cases where cattle traders and others who regularly deal only in cash have lost their money and then had to pay attorneys to fight to get a portion of it back.

11/16/2007 4:47:08 PM

i wonder how much there really was before the cops got to it

11/16/2007 4:48:07 PM

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"you can legally carry as much cash as you want. How can there possibly be a law against how much money you can have on you? While 140k in cash is very suspicious, it's up to them to prove it was illegally obtained."

The GESTAPO ; DEA will just claim that you were got this cash by selling drugs. Brave New World we live in. I Luv Our FREEDOM!!!!!

I do not care if George Jung is pulled and the police find 50K in his glove compartment. They should have absolutely no right to seize the case unless they have credible evidence or witnessed the drug transaction. Even if George has a dimebag in his pocket and gets a misdemeanor drug charge. I have heard this happening in several incidents and absolutely disgusts me.

11/16/2007 4:54:09 PM

I knew they could seize the money, but I was under the impression that after seizing it they had to prove you were involved in some sort of illegal activity that was likely connected to the money in order to keep it.
I guess getting caught with a large amount of cash is just about always going to result in you digging yourself out of a pretty deep hole even if it was obtained legally. I read an article once on a guy who worked with a group of professional gamblers and was constantly running large amounts of money across the country. He taped the money to himself under his clothes and was always extremely nervous while going through security. He said something like, "although all of the money was obtained legally, it was not something I cared to explain."

11/16/2007 5:11:31 PM

http://www.fear.org/

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"Innocent owners who are never charged with a crime still must prove their innocence in complex proceedings, where many cases are lost before even coming to trial. Most forfeiture cases are never contested, in part because contesting the proceedings can cost more than the value of what's been confiscated. "The average vehicle siezed is worth about $4,000," states FEAR president Brenda Grantland, Esq. "To defend a case, especially when you're out of state, they've pretty much made it cost prohibitive." Under civil asset forfeiture laws, the simple possessoin of cash, with no drugs or other contraband, can be considered evidence of criminal activity."

11/16/2007 8:25:28 PM

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"taunting a police K-9"

saw one of those "most shocking" shows not long ago and in this one part a shitload of cops blow this guy's guts all over a tree and the dog gets shot too (trend) and the first thing you hear them spew onto those cute little tit-radios is "K-9 UNIT DOWN!!!!"

never did hear any request for ambulance

be good, america, and kill more cops <3

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 8:34 PM. Reason : a]

11/16/2007 8:33:08 PM

I wonder how much was really seized...it's probably appropriate to double that figure much like you double the amount of alcohol people claim they drink

11/16/2007 8:41:35 PM

Fuck off and die Fermat your "everyone go out and kill cops" shtick is getting old

11/16/2007 8:44:35 PM

law enforcement agencies have stolen original documents from me. example, my birth certificate has nothing to do with a warrant allowing them to search for cocaine. neither does my license

and i was charged with drivng with out my license on me the next time i left home (pulled within 1/4 mile of home)

never got any of it back, had to pay the ticket

11/16/2007 8:51:51 PM

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"you can legally carry as much cash as you want. How can there possibly be a law against how much money you can have on you? While 140k in cash is very suspicious, it's up to them to prove it was illegally obtained."

do some research before you talk... you are wrong. I thought the same, but anything over $10K without proof of where it came from and they can seize it. YOU have to prove it is legit...

11/16/2007 8:55:52 PM

YOU MAY ENCOUNTER FEEBLE FAGGOT RESISTANCE, AMERICA, BUT THE TRUTH REMAINS. YOU ARE DISPOSABLE TO SOMEONE WHO TOOK A SIX WEEK CLASS ON HILARIOUS SELF DEFENCE CLASSES AND GOT A BITCH NIPPLE MADE OF TIN FOR THEIR EFFORTS

11/16/2007 8:56:08 PM

^

If you're such a bad ass, why don't you go off a cop or hell, why don't you go up to one and tell him how you truly feel. Don't ask others to do something your pansy ass won't

[Edited on November 16, 2007 at 9:13 PM. Reason : a]

11/16/2007 9:12:20 PM

someone has a swizzle stick in their pee-hole


i've just been amazed at the number of cowards in the world. I mean, most of these police victims have SOME family right? Nobody believe in self sacrifice anymore?

11/16/2007 9:24:49 PM

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"Dude was charged with "resist, obstruct, delay" and lost $140k. "

pwnt

11/16/2007 9:53:03 PM

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"but anything over $10K without proof of where it came from and they can seize it. YOU have to prove it is legit..."

So much for innocent until proven guilty. Big Brother is Watching You

11/18/2007 5:26:22 PM

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"do some research before you talk... you are wrong. I thought the same, but anything over $10K without proof of where it came from and they can seize it. YOU have to prove it is legit..."

i dont believe this until you provide a link

this sounds like complete bullshit

11/18/2007 5:27:39 PM

i'm not sure of the amounts and what-not, and there have been some reforms very recently, but it is true

11/18/2007 5:29:18 PM

I'm sure that this is not always the case but generally speaking someone that is smart enough to acquire $140,000 legally is also smart enough to transport the $140,000 in a manner that is not "stash the cash in the car."

Of course since the cash wasn't the drivers I don't see how the seizure really effects him.

11/18/2007 5:38:28 PM

He didn't claim the money, therefore the money was taken from him...I see no problem here.

11/18/2007 5:39:43 PM

the problem is that whether he claimed it or not is inconsequential

11/18/2007 5:40:59 PM

Why?

11/18/2007 5:47:13 PM

possession of a large sum of cash is prima facie evidence that the money is from drugs or some other illegal activity and the burden of proof is on the possessor to show that it's not

[Edited on November 18, 2007 at 5:52 PM. Reason : &]

11/18/2007 5:49:49 PM

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"you can legally carry as much cash as you want. How can there possibly be a law against how much money you can have on you? While 140k in cash is very suspicious, it's up to them to prove it was illegally obtained."

umm dude, i ain't american, and even i know you are wrong. above a certain threshold (10k?), they can and do take the cash, and YOU have to prove it was legitimately obtained. and if you can't, well such it up.

go to the soap box for threads on this.

the police makes some millions each year from such seizures.

11/18/2007 5:54:14 PM

perhaps he should have been carrying 140,000 in liberty dollars instead.

11/18/2007 6:17:15 PM

If I was smuggling drugs something tells me I would not be driving a car with a bunch of after market tint and shit on it. Thats like saying hey mr redneck cop pull me over and fuck with me please!!!!

I would get a construction van and fill it with plumbing tools and shit and drive around with a blue shirt on, then hide the shit behind the tool bins.

11/19/2007 12:31:24 AM